HAL Initiates Search for Engine to Power New HLFT-42 Supersonic Trainer, 95-100 kN Thrust and 6,000 Hours Technical Life Key Requirements

HAL Initiates Search for Engine to Power New HLFT-42 Supersonic Trainer, 95-100 kN Thrust and 6,000 Hours Technical Life Key Requirements


State-owned aerospace and defence company Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) has officially launched its search for a suitable jet engine to power its developmental supersonic trainer, the Hindustan Lead-in Fighter Trainer (HLFT-42).

HAL issued a Request for Information (RFI) on March 17, 2025, outlining the core requirements for the powerplant. The document specifies the need for an engine capable of producing a maximum thrust between 95 and 100 kilonewtons (kN) and possessing a substantial total technical lifespan of 6,000 hours. This step underscores HAL's commitment to equipping the advanced trainer with a robust engine suited for modern pilot training needs.

First unveiled as a scale model at the Aero India airshow in Bengaluru in 2023, the HLFT-42 is envisioned as a critical link in pilot training. It aims to transition pilots from basic trainers to advanced, high-performance combat aircraft currently entering or planned for service with the Indian Air Force (IAF), such as the Tejas Mk2 and the future Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA).

Conceptual work on the HLFT-42 began back in 2017. The aircraft features a single-engine design with traditional swept wings and will incorporate modern avionics, including an Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar, an Infrared Search and Track (IRST) system for passive targeting, and a sophisticated Fly-by-Wire (FBW) control system for enhanced maneuverability and safety.

According to details shared by industry observers, the engine performance is critical for the aircraft to achieve its design goals, including reaching a maximum speed of Mach 1.8 (1.8 times the speed of sound) and operating at high altitudes up to 18 kilometres (around 60,000 feet).

These specifications are important as the HLFT-42 is reportedly intended to replace the IAF's existing fleet of BAE Systems Hawk 132 subsonic advanced jet trainers.

This reflects a strategic shift towards utilizing supersonic trainers that can more accurately replicate the conditions and complexities of modern air combat scenarios for trainee pilots.

The required thrust range of 95-100 kN (approximately 21,000-22,500 pounds of force) will ensure the HLFT-42 has the necessary power for high-speed flight profiles while maintaining stability during lower-speed training exercises. This performance level surpasses many current trainer aircraft, like the BAE Hawk (max speed Mach 1.2), and aligns it with advanced contemporaries such as South Korea's KAI T-50 Golden Eagle (max speed Mach 1.5).

Furthermore, designed with a maximum take-off weight (MTOW) of 16.5 tonnes and equipped with 11 hardpoints for carrying ordnance, the HLFT-42 offers potential secondary capabilities as a light combat aircraft, capable of deploying weapons like the indigenous Astra beyond-visual-range missile and ASRAAM close-combat missiles.

The RFI issued by HAL seeks extensive data from potential engine manufacturers, covering aspects like engine design philosophy, detailed performance metrics, maintenance procedures, reliability data, and projected lifecycle costs. This information-gathering phase is widely seen as a precursor to a formal Request for Proposals (RFP), which would initiate a competitive procurement process or potentially lead to a strategic partnership.

Potential respondents to the RFI could include international engine manufacturers already supplying engines for Indian defence programs, such as GE Aviation (whose F404 powers the Tejas Mk1/1A and whose F414 is selected for Tejas Mk2 and AMCA), or other global players with engines in the required thrust class.

The data collected will play a vital role in shaping the final selection and procurement strategy for this crucial component of India's next-generation trainer aircraft.
 
We should select Rolls Royce EJ200 95kn+ engine for HLFT-42 better make them in India with 100% TOT and IP rights !
 
F404 would be a good engine.
Well, why not the F414 instead? We would be partially manufacturing the engines in India, which would give us a slight modicum of control. Moreover, provisions could also be built in to eventually use the AMCA engine or a downgraded variant thereof into the HLFT-42.
 
Well, why not the F414 instead? We would be partially manufacturing the engines in India, which would give us a slight modicum of control. Moreover, provisions could also be built in to eventually use the AMCA engine or a downgraded variant thereof into the HLFT-42.
Cost is the major factor, at least until we make our own engine. We could use F404, like in T50. We can license make this engine also.
 
Still doing 404 mistake
Russian AL 31 is best choice convert lca as trainer and develop it as main fighter with stealth treatment. So we by pass American blackmail in future
 
F414 is that engine. That's what we are planning to make in India already and the deal may be signed this year. Another approach could be to go with the Russian equivalent. That will make an alternate option ready for the Tejas Mk2 project. This can help us to keep pressure on the US.
 
It would be GE-414_INS6 locally assembled, but a derated AL_31FN should be offered, but 6000 hrs. It may fail.
 
As usual, HAL is spreading itself too thin. Does it have the manpower and resources to invest in such diverse aircrafts: TEDBF, AMCA, Tejas Mk 2, the IJT, all of which are supposed to come up within the next 5 to 7 years? Each of these aircrafts will show slippages in their delivery timelines, that is a given. Include HLFT in it too now.
 
There is one great advantage in this, i.e., the air frame has been thoroughly tested by us. We unfortunately lost an ace test pilot, Suranjan Das, about 55 years ago while testing the Marut. The test pilot trophy is named after him for the best test pilot in the test pilot course. In those days, pilots had to go to Empire Test Pilot School in Boscombe Down in the UK. His initial flight training was in Canada, where he earned his wings. He was the first Indian to fly in the Farnborough Air Show as well. Das was killed in a sortie on the Marut when the canopy flew off during take off! Trust HAL or the technicians! The same thing happened when test pilot Baldev Singh was testing the SITARA IJT during take off. He survived, it was just before an Aero India show.

Aerodynamically, it is a wonderful clean aircraft designed by Dr. Kurt Tank of Germany. The effort started in 1956. He was employed by India to design the first fighter designed and made in India. But it was underpowered as the UK did not cooperate. Rolls Royce wanted India to finance and co-develop a more powerful version of the Orpheus engine, but India refused due to political nitwits and no foresight.

Incidentally, BAE also offered to co-develop the first fly-by-wire aircraft based on the proven Jaguar. The powers that be, in all their wisdom, declined! Our LCA would have been flying 10 years earlier if people had sense and foresight.

The air intakes have to be redesigned, as the air intakes were designed for two engines producing about 20kN each. Now we need more than double the air flow mass for a 110kN engine, hence there will be a redesigning of the air frame, as well as the center of thrust, center of lift, and center of gravity will all change.
 
What about the Intermediate Jet Trainer (HJT-36), that was being developed for the last 30 years? Shouldn't HAL work overtime to finish that before taking on another development program?
 
Who will be the contenders for this engine? GE again? Or do we go for AL-41 or its newer variant? Or wait till the improved Kaveri is ready?
It says 95-100 kN max thrust. So it's F414. It's precisely tailored for that. Maybe Eurojet at best. India anyway, isn't looking at Russian engines and Kaveri is a dead end.
 
Is there any need for HLFT42? We are already working on two 4th generation aircraft, i.e., Tejas Mark 1A and Tejas Mark II with GE F404 & GE F414 engines.

So, it's better to invest the money either in AMCA engine development or in Kaveri engine derivatives.

And if the requirement is an advanced trainer aircraft, proceed with Kaveri engine derivatives with 50-54 KN dry thrust while subsequently upgrading the Kaveri engine derivatives to produce a total thrust of nearly 80-90 KN, which is satisfactory for an advanced trainer being an indigenous one.

In this way, a complete defence aerospace ecosystem will also be developed. Yes, I do agree we have several challenges in doing that, but still it will be a feasible project for the Indian defence sector.
 
As usual, HAL is spreading itself too thin. Does it have the manpower and resources to invest in such diverse aircrafts: TEDBF, AMCA, Tejas Mk 2, the IJT, all of which are supposed to come up within the next 5 to 7 years? Each of these aircrafts will show slippages in their delivery timelines, that is a given. Include HLFT in it too now.
AMCA is 10 years at least, while true 5th gen AMCA MK2 will go into production in 2040. TEBBF is only in 2038. In the near future, only Tejas MK1 and after 7 years, MK2. So no worries.
 
India has already made a deal with the USA for the F414 engine so it makes sense to just continue to use that as we receive 80% of the technology and get to manufacture that amount in India. They just need to hurry up and quickly sign the deal so that its costs doesn’t escalate even more.
 
Is there any need for HLFT42? We are already working on two 4th generation aircraft, i.e., Tejas Mark 1A and Tejas Mark II with GE F404 & GE F414 engines.

So, it's better to invest the money either in AMCA engine development or in Kaveri engine derivatives.

And if the requirement is an advanced trainer aircraft, proceed with Kaveri engine derivatives with 50-54 KN dry thrust while subsequently upgrading the Kaveri engine derivatives to produce a total thrust of nearly 80-90 KN, which is satisfactory for an advanced trainer being an indigenous one.

In this way, a complete defence aerospace ecosystem will also be developed. Yes, I do agree we have several challenges in doing that, but still it will be a feasible project for the Indian defence sector.
There is because the Hawk trainer has been in service for around 20 years and to replace that we need at least 10 years to design, develop, manufacture, test and finally allow production to start.

As for the Kaveri engine it’s gone as far as it can. We are using the dry variant for the stealth UCAV Ghatak and we are developing the Kaveri Marine engine as well so it’s reached its end. To develop an Indian engine with a high thrust they have to start from scratch.
 
What about the Intermediate Jet Trainer (HJT-36), that was being developed for the last 30 years? Shouldn't HAL work overtime to finish that before taking on another development program?
That’s been developed now. They just need to start manufacturing the Yashas trainer now.
 
AMCA is 10 years at least, while true 5th gen AMCA MK2 will go into production in 2040. TEBBF is only in 2038. In the near future, only Tejas MK1 and after 7 years, MK2. So no worries.
How will it help? MK2 after 7 years, by then China will have 5th gen in a few hundreds, and by the time we see the first rollout of AMCA, it will be in thousands.
 
India has already made a deal with the USA for the F414 engine so it makes sense to just continue to use that as we receive 80% of the technology and get to manufacture that amount in India. They just need to hurry up and quickly sign the deal so that its costs doesn’t escalate even more.
Costs will escalate anyway. US sellers always take that in the contracts that if price of resources go up, the price of their product will increase also.
 
Costs will escalate anyway. US sellers always take that in the contracts that if price of resources go up, the price of their product will increase also.
No once a contract is signed regardless of whether the price in commodities increases the number of engines and the price that’s written in the contract is the final price for the buyer.

They can stipulate that if you want more engines than the original number and contract then they adjust the price based on inflation and foreign currency exchange rate if they want a repeat order.
 
It's such a silly, ancient design. HF24 is the same as the American F105. Reusing a 1960 design in 2025 does not make sense unless they think they can make it at under 10 million dollars apiece.
 

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