Pakistan's Flagship 'Haider' Tank: Rebranded Export Model Fraught With Issues

Pakistan's Flagship 'Haider' Tank: Rebranded Export Model Fraught With Issues


The recent rollout ceremony of Pakistan's 'Haider' tank, hailed as the nation's new Main Battle Tank, aimed to project an image of modernized defence capabilities. However, documents obtained by ThePrint reveal a more complex and troubled backstory.

The 'Haider' stems from a 2017 order of 176 VT-4 tanks from China's Norinco, an effort to replace Pakistan's outdated tank fleet. This move came after the failure of Pakistan's attempt to develop its own Al-Khalid II MBT, a successor to the troubled Al-Khalid I, which itself was heavily based on older Chinese designs.

Initial trials of the imported VT-4 exposed significant problems. Pakistan, facing economic challenges and disappointed by the tanks' performance, initially expanded the VT-4 order to 300. But reports of faulty hulls and dimension discrepancies in the received tanks cast doubt on the VT-4's overall dependability. This resulted in the order being scaled back.

In a bid to salvage the situation, Pakistan licensed local production of the VT-4 under the 'Haider' moniker. Pakistani Army officials claim the 'Haider' features improved electronics and fire control compared to the older Ukrainian T-84 Oplot-T tanks in their inventory.

Questions of Capability​

Industry experts and Chinese sources suggest that the VT-4 is a downgraded export model, lacking the advanced features of China's own frontline tanks. Concerns persist about the 'Haider's' armor protection compared to the latest offerings from Russia and the West.

The fanfare surrounding the 'Haider' tank obscures a history of setbacks and compromised capabilities. Pakistan's ongoing reliance on imported Chinese technology, particularly within its armored divisions, highlights the challenges it faces in achieving true self-sufficiency in its defence industry.
 
The newer tanks , that is taimur , that is limping to one side. Aibak tank that is rotten , tughlaq tank is totally crazy , constantly changes its position and cannot be aimed at are soon coming in very big numbers.
 
So, far on Indian side is no different. We are unable to develop our own Future Main Battle Tanks. But Light Battle Tank is promising one.
 
So, far on Indian side is no different. We are unable to develop our own Future Main Battle Tanks. But Light Battle Tank is promising one.
Indian MBT will happen.
The building blocks are right there.
I have a belief that Zorawar Light Tank project will definitely lead to better things culminating into a very decent FMBT for IA.
 
Pakistan needs to rename the tank as Aurangzeb. Maybe that will make the tank more likeable. Lot of Aurangzeb's fan exist on this side of the border too.
 
Stop being delusional Chong tanks have superior design than our tin cans. They have better reverse speed and better overall sights too.
 
Stop being delusional Chong tanks have superior design than our tin cans. They have better reverse speed and better overall sights too.
well, you are right, never underestimate the enemy.... However, common sense should not be over ruled by over estimating an enemy either ....
 
To buy roti, Pakistan needs IMF money.
From where does the does the money come for these tanks?
 
Where there is a "will", there is a "Waynad".

Moral of the story, in India, just having will won't do. Many detractors exist for any project in nation-building. A lot goes into ensuring projects, both in civilian as well as military spheres, meet their purposeful end.

Proof of the pudding is in the eating. Light Battle tank is nearing completion soon. If zorawar succeeds, it would have put in motion, one such cycle of events culminating in FMBT.
 
Never underestimate the enemies skin changes 😹😹😹
Or we gonna go faqup like Zelensky 🤭🙃
 
Can't deny the confidence of these wild pigs (here and there) even with all these faulty toys.
 
Thailand uses quite a number of VT4 purchased multiple times. It is a good Tank.
 

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