Rafale M Fighters to Serve as Catalyst for India's Ambitious TEDBF Project with Training, Maintenance, and Design Insights

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The Indian Navy's recent agreement to acquire 26 Rafale M fighters from France is a significant step not only in strengthening its naval air fleet but also in providing a valuable blueprint for the development of indigenous aircraft like the Twin Engine Deck-Based Fighter (TEDBF).

This deal, valued at approximately $7 billion, presents a unique opportunity for the Indian Navy to learn, adapt, and innovate, potentially leading to a domestically developed fighter that could rival or even surpass the capabilities of the Rafale M.

By operating the Rafale M, the Indian Navy gains firsthand experience with a state-of-the-art, carrier-capable fighter jet. This acquisition allows naval aviators to understand the operational nuances of a multirole, maritime fighter, providing crucial insights into the performance, durability, and versatility required in naval combat scenarios. These operational experiences will be invaluable in defining the performance parameters for the TEDBF.

The Rafale M's advanced avionics, including its Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar, electronic warfare capabilities, and weapons systems, offer a technological baseline for the TEDBF. By studying these components, Indian engineers can aim to develop or adapt similar technologies, potentially incorporating indigenous innovations and improvements.

The Rafale M's design, optimized for carrier operations, provides valuable lessons in aircraft carrier integration, encompassing take-off and landing procedures, as well as maintenance protocols specific to naval environments. This knowledge transfer will be crucial for the TEDBF, especially considering its intended role on India's aircraft carriers like INS Vikrant and INS Vikramaditya.

The induction of the Rafale M will necessitate comprehensive training programs for pilots and maintenance crews. These programs can be structured to encompass the development of skills needed for the future TEDBF. This dual focus on foreign and indigenous systems can cultivate a highly skilled workforce capable of handling complex next-generation aircraft.

While direct reverse engineering may not be part of the agreement, the presence of the Rafale M allows for a deeper understanding of its complex systems. This knowledge can inform design choices and technology integration in the TEDBF. Moreover, any technology transfer agreements included in the deal could provide foundational knowledge for local research and development.

Operating the Rafale M will also expose the Indian Navy to advanced maintenance practices, logistics management, and the intricate supply chain required for high-performance fighters. These lessons can be directly applied to the TEDBF program, ensuring streamlined logistics and robust maintenance protocols from its inception.

In essence, the Rafale M acquisition serves as a catalyst for India's ambitious TEDBF project. By leveraging the operational experience, technological insights, and maintenance expertise gained from the Rafale M, India can accelerate the development of its own advanced carrier-based fighter, strengthening its position as a leading naval power in the Indo-Pacific region.
 
Dassault Rafale will be very handy in the development of TEDBF. Under MRFA, local assembling and ToT will benefit the Tejas Mk2 as well as the AMCA project. Very few countries manufacture naval versions; Dassault is one of them, while Eurofighter & Gripen miss the naval version. One of the technologies India would be looking at is the E/W suite. Rafale is almost stealth, minus the design. With TEDBF expected to have an indigenous anti-ship missile with a range of 150 km plus, the range with the latest tech will be more potent compared to Rafale M.
 
What nonsense. The Rafales won't fly for us, at least for the next 4 or 5 years, given the production backlog at Dassault. Is the TEDBF going to be on hold till then?
 
Why didn’t buying and license making hundred’s of foreign jets for the last 50-60 years shape any program before.
 
If learning is the main objective here, just lease 5-10 fighters for 10-15 years. It will be much cheaper. You can use the money u saved to develop TEDBF.
 
But who is working on TEDBF?

The Navy has Mig-29K and gets Rafale-M;

HAL, ADA, and DRDO struggle with Tejas Mk1a and will struggle with Mk2, AMCA for the next 20 years.

Who will design and build TEDBF? Nobody has approved it yet, no AON or tender, so it's just on paper.

ADA was to work with HAL and a private industry player, but there is nothing on this at all. It won't be there for at least the next 10 years, going by history and the current situation.

They won't be able to build a Rafale-M-like jet in the next 20 years, even if they want to and try. Who will do it? HAL, Navy, ADA, DRDO?!

Of course, unless we do MRFA with Rafale with local manufacturing, maybe then in 20 years, we will build TEDBF, probably with help from Dassault+Safran with a large private player or a private consortium, maybe.

Else we will either have to buy more Rafale-M or the F-35C or so in the next 10-20 years.
 
What nonsense. The Rafales won't fly for us, at least for the next 4 or 5 years, given the production backlog at Dassault. Is the TEDBF going to be on hold till then?
Do we think we will do anything for the next 5-10 years? Nothing! We will keep working on Tejas Mk1a, Mk2, and won't be able to deliver those by then too!
 
Please cancel the entire TEDBS program. It is a waste of time and money. Navalized AMCA is the answer. Until then just buy and use rafale M. Everyone is switching to 5th gen and we need to forget about 4th gen already. Move on or be left behind.
 
But who is working on TEDBF?

The Navy has Mig-29K and gets Rafale-M;

HAL, ADA, and DRDO struggle with Tejas Mk1a and will struggle with Mk2, AMCA for the next 20 years.

Who will design and build TEDBF? Nobody has approved it yet, no AON or tender, so it's just on paper.
These jets will replace the Mig 29 jets and will be used on our upcoming carriers so there’s a substantial need for around 80+ jets.

Also there’s a strong chance that the air force might want to buy a few squadrons to increase its double engine fighter jets as this will be more advanced and capable than the Tejas MK2 jets.
 
It’s obvious that we have taken a lot of ideas from the Rafale jets that we bought. While it’s not an exact copy or reverse engineered version we have also made a lot of changes and improvements to its weapons carrying capabilities, technology and equipment.

There is also a good chance that the air force might buy a few jets as its capabilities will be better than the Tejas MK2 jets.
 

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