Airbus and Boeing Resist Setting Up Final Assembly Lines in India, Fearing Rise of a New Competitor Like China's COMAC

Airbus and Boeing Resist Setting Up Final Assembly Lines in India, Fearing Rise of a New Competitor Like China's COMAC


Despite India's rapidly growing aviation market and strong government pressure, aerospace giants Airbus and Boeing are showing significant reluctance to establish Final Assembly Lines (FALs) within the country.

This hesitancy is reportedly rooted in a desire to protect their existing manufacturing bases and, crucially, to avoid fostering a potential Indian competitor, mirroring their experience with China's COMAC.

India is projected to require nearly 2,000 new aircraft over the next two decades, making it a highly valuable market for both Airbus and Boeing. The Indian government, under its "Make in India" initiatives, has been actively encouraging the establishment of FALs to boost domestic manufacturing, create jobs, and facilitate technology transfer. The Ministry of Civil Aviation has emphasized the importance of local manufacturing as a key component of large aircraft orders.

However, according to industry insiders, including a former Airbus India employee, both companies are prioritizing the strengthening of their existing facilities in their home countries (France for Airbus, and the United States for Boeing) over establishing a major manufacturing presence in India. The insider stated that despite any volume of orders from Indian airlines, neither company intends to create a full FAL in the country.

This position prioritizes maintaining production at established facilities in locations like Toulouse (France), Hamburg (Germany), and Seattle (USA). While both companies have publicly entertained the possibility of an Indian FAL to appease government officials, their actions indicate a focus on maintaining their current manufacturing footprint. The underlying strategy appears to be treating India primarily as a major customer, rather than a full manufacturing partner.

A significant factor contributing to this reluctance is Airbus's experience in China. In 2008, Airbus established an FAL in Tianjin, China, for A320-family aircraft, largely in response to Chinese government pressure and market growth.

While this facility has been productive, delivering over 600 aircraft, it is also believed to have inadvertently contributed to the rise of the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (COMAC) and its C919 aircraft.

The C919, a narrow-body jet, is now a direct competitor to both the Airbus A320 and Boeing 737 families. COMAC has reportedly received over 1,000 orders for C919 within China.

The former Airbus employee explicitly stated that both Airbus and Boeing are wary of repeating this scenario in India. They fear that an Indian FAL could accelerate the development of a domestic Indian aircraft manufacturer, potentially challenging their market dominance in the long run. This potential competitor could emerge from existing entities like Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) or from a new private sector player.

However, the differing market conditions between China and India also play a role. China's more controlled market and assertive industrial policies gave Airbus less room to negotiate, necessitating the Tianjin FAL for market access. On the other hand, India's more open and democratic system, allows Airbus and Boeing to exert more leverage, relying on their technological advantages and established global supply chains.

While both companies have increased their engagement with Indian suppliers – Airbus, for example, sources approximately $1 billion worth of components from India annually, and Boeing has partnerships with companies like Tata Advanced Systems – the absence of a full FAL significantly limits the scope of technology transfer and the creation of high-skilled aerospace jobs within India.

Major aircraft orders, such as IndiGo's 2023 order for 500 Airbus A320neo family aircraft and Air India's order for 470 aircraft (split between Airbus and Boeing) in the same year, have not included firm commitments for establishing FALs, despite public statements from Indian officials suggesting otherwise.

Some analysts argue that this approach by Airbus and Boeing is short-sighted, potentially jeopardizing their long-term relationship with a crucial growth market. However, the companies appear to be prioritizing the protection of their core intellectual property and established manufacturing bases over the potential benefits of a closer industrial partnership with India.
 
Brazil, Japan, Russia, and China... all have made excellent passenger airplanes indigenously, but couldn't break the stranglehold of the US and Europe. We are nowhere on the scene. Instead of FAL, we should seek MRO facilities for their planes. We may learn something.
 
Airbus and Boeing should set up a FAL in India. If they are concerned that we may do a China on them, they shouldn't worry - will never happen.
 
We should work with Russia and develop local facilities of Sukhoi jumbo passengers and work on developing their engines. The West will never give us anything; they only want from us. China has dented all prospects for us. We should grow and develop our own technology. We need to invest in local R&D. Times have changed. We are 20 years behind, and this gap will hurt us for the next 50 years. We can only rise by own development and having good policies, and changing the rules and regulations, and also finishing corruption.
 
India must tie up with Embraer or Russia to jointly develop new and bigger passenger planes. The Western countries will not cooperate to bring the developing countries at par.
 
India would need a JV to manufacture commercial aircrafts. Currently we do not have know how or competency to manufacture them. Here it's a question of 300 lives at stake.
It remains to be seen whether any manufacturer already well established in the sector is willing to run the risk of suffering industrial espionage or having its products subjected to reverse engineering!
 
I mean why would they.
Yes, the whole debate is stupid. If we want local capability, then an Indian corp such as Tata,L&T,Mahindra should get into this business. May be with big assistance from the govt. Boeing/Airbus are one of the last few manufacturing jobs left in the West. They would never let it go. Its premium manufacturing. Considering the fact that their currencies are overvalued vs other currencies of the world, it makes sense for them to manufacture it there. So our only way out is for an Indian company to compete in this space from scratch.
 
Well, in that case, we should look to COMAC and Sukhoi and stagger sales. Sukhoi has already signaled they are ready to set up a FAL in India, and with the promise of a decent order, COMAC will be ready to set up as well. Agreed, both COMAC and Sukhoi are not as well known in the civil aerospace sector; their FAL in India will have served its purpose. If the government is smart, even with domestic orders going to alternative vendors, considering the size of the market, the duopoly will wake up and smell the coffee. And even if they don't, we will have an excellent assembly line available which can tap into the domestic market to sustain in the long run. Furthermore, we would have a well-entrenched ecosystem and the learning from which we should be able to stir up a local competitor. The point is, who is smarter: the duopoly or the Sarkaar?
Instead of looking at COMAC and Sukhoi, which are unlikely to have significant success outside their domestic markets and areas of influence, India should take a closer look at Embraer. Analysts have already said that the Brazilian company would be the only one with some capacity to break the current duopoly. What they lack are partners to share costs and risks. Even though their sales do not compare to those of the giants Airbus and Boeing, their models are recognized worldwide for their quality, innovation and diversity, which translates into greater chances of success and consequently exports.
 
If there are 2 players, it's a duopoly, not a monopoly. And it's not exactly true, though. Embraer and Bombardier still exist. Of course, they don't make full-size jets.
Embraer operates in only the short-to-medium haul, narrow-body, single-aisle regional jet segment. It can't truly be considered a competitor for Airbus and Boeing, which control the long-haul, wide-body, double- or triple-aisle transcontinental flight market.

As far as Bombardier is concerned, it withdrew from the regional jet market in 2019, when it divested its CRJ Series regional jet business division and sold it off to Mitsubishi Aerospace, and the C Series was picked up by Airbus, which rebranded it as the A220 series aircraft. Bombardier's Q series turboprops are currently owned by De Havilland Aircraft of Canada. As of now, Bombardier only manufactures Global series and Challenger series business jets.
 
They don't carry much passangers. They use engines from RR, GE and P&W.
But they have the capacity to develop such an aircraft. Nowadays, it is difficult for a company to design an aircraft without international components. Just look at the Russians and Chinese, who have foreign companies among their suppliers. When they try to develop something, what they end up with are inferior products to those that already exist, usually because they are using outdated technology.
 
We should order MC-21 instead of these two guys. Now Boeing is famous for poor quality product.
The Russians are not the best at providing support when airlines need it. Mexico's Interjet faced several problems with Sukhoi jets, including defects and lack of technical support, which further contributed to its bankruptcy.
 
MC-21 is a decent jet, even the engine in them PD-14 is an efficient engine.
But how many were manufactured to buy their decency on the market? The model has not yet established itself on the domestic market. Russian companies preferred to buy aircraft from Airbus, Boeing and Embraer rather than aircraft manufactured in the country itself. When they do, it is only because of the "guidance" of the local government.
 
But how many were manufactured to buy their decency on the market? The model has not yet established itself on the domestic market. Russian companies preferred to buy aircraft from Airbus, Boeing and Embraer rather than aircraft manufactured in the country itself. When they do, it is only because of the "guidance" of the local government.
Instead of buying expensive foreign jets. MC-21 could be made in India for India other Countries, we need experience making passenger jet, gaining experience we can make transport jets, someday India will be baaned for spares like Russia and China, before that India should be self reliant.
 
With HAL at the helm,both Airbus and Boeing can rest assure that nothing will happen or no domestic competition will emerge.
 
But they have the capacity to develop such an aircraft. Nowadays, it is difficult for a company to design an aircraft without international components. Just look at the Russians and Chinese, who have foreign companies among their suppliers. When they try to develop something, what they end up with are inferior products to those that already exist, usually because they are using outdated technology.
Our composite technology is good coupled with a good efficient engine then obvious better. Composite may cost more initially, but long run the are cost savers. Further if production is to scales so much better.
 

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