Amidst Outdated MICA Missiles, India Needs to Upgrade Mirage-2000 Jets with Astra Mk1 to Counter China's J-20 and Pak's F-16

Amidst Outdated MICA Missiles, India Needs to Upgrade Mirage-2000 Jets with Astra Mk1 to Counter China's J-20 and Pak's F-16


The Indian Air Force (IAF) is facing a critical need to upgrade the firepower of its time-tested Mirage-2000 fighter jets to maintain combat relevance against the advanced aerial threats posed by China and Pakistan.

Experts and defence analysts suggest that equipping the fleet with the indigenous Astra Mk1 beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile (BVRAAM) is a crucial and immediate step to counter the superior missile capabilities of regional adversaries.

The IAF currently operates a fleet of approximately 45 upgraded Mirage-2000H/TH aircraft, which have been mainstays since their induction in the 1980s.

These fourth-generation fighters, renowned for their agility and proven performance in conflicts like the 1999 Kargil War and the 2019 Balakot airstrikes, are expected to serve until around 2040.

A comprehensive mid-life upgrade completed in 2015 equipped them with modern avionics, including advanced radar and electronic warfare suites.

However, the fleet's primary long-range weapon, the French-made MBDA MICA missile, is becoming increasingly obsolete. With a range of 60-80 kilometres, the MICA is significantly outmatched by missiles fielded by neighbouring air forces.

China's fifth-generation J-20 stealth fighters are armed with the PL-15 missile, which boasts an estimated range of over 200 km. Similarly, Pakistan's F-16 jets are equipped with the American AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM, which has an effective range of 100-120 km.

This disparity places the IAF's Mirage-2000 pilots at a considerable disadvantage in beyond-visual-range combat scenarios.

This capability gap is further highlighted by the IAF's current squadron strength, which stands at a concerning 31 against a sanctioned requirement of 42.

With delays in the induction of future aircraft like the Tejas Mk2 and the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA), optimising the potential of existing assets like the Mirage-2000 is a strategic imperative for national defence.

A viable and cost-effective solution lies in the integration of the Astra Mk1 missile.

Developed by India's DRDO, the Astra Mk1 is the country's first indigenous BVRAAM. With a proven range of 90-110 km and a speed of Mach 4.5, it offers a distinct performance improvement over the aging MICA missile.

The Astra has already been successfully integrated with the IAF's Su-30 MKI and Tejas Mk1 fleets, with numerous successful test firings confirming its reliability.

Integrating the Astra Mk1 with the Mirage-2000 is considered technically feasible. The aircraft's Thales RDY-2 radar, which has a detection range of up to 150 km, would only require software modifications to be compatible with the Indian missile.

This upgrade could be executed indigenously by HAL, which possesses the required infrastructure at its Mirage upgrade facility in Bengaluru. Such a move would strongly align with the government's 'Atmanirbhar Bharat' initiative, fostering the domestic defence ecosystem.

From a financial perspective, the Astra missile is significantly more economical.

Each Astra Mk1 unit costs approximately ₹2-3 crore, compared to the ₹6-8 crore for a MICA missile. This makes re-arming the entire Mirage fleet an affordable option, estimated at a fraction of the cost of acquiring new foreign missile systems.

However, the path to integration faces commercial hurdles.

Dassault Aviation, the French manufacturer of the Mirage, has reportedly shown reluctance to support the integration of a non-French missile. Instead, the company is promoting its next-generation MICA-NG missile.

For India, this option would mean continued foreign dependency and higher costs for a marginal performance gain over the readily available Astra Mk1.

Given the evolving security landscape, where adversaries are rapidly modernising their air forces, enhancing the Mirage-2000's long-range strike capability is not just an option, but a necessity.

The Astra Mk1 provides a potent, locally-produced, and financially sensible solution to ensure this vital component of India's air defence remains a formidable deterrent for the next decade.
 
If weakness is known it's not anymore weakness unless not corrected . No war ,no peace is the new low of this decade of 2020 onwards .
 
Why don't we forget this Air to air for aging aircrafts as this era of dog fights is over due to long range SAMs and all upgrades will fail as new tech keeps adding up ,why not make them air to ground specialized like they did aptly in Kargil ,so mountains fortification ect become their main targets . No need for new tech ,only new modular systems, like Isralie spice and HAMMER family can be used and Rafels be free to engage Air targets .we need to send older aircrafts with aging air frames of 1990 era to suitable work but definitely not air to air combat upgrades ,unless it's very cheap .
 
In my view India can replace RDY2 Radar with Uttam AESA or even RDY2 can be used with local indian improvements with My RF Dispenser replacing old RWR to guide Astra Missiles of all kinds. So they can be installed with RDY2 radar. RDY2 can be improved near AESA like performance with 250-350 Kms range or even more suppose 500Kms for size of 5sq.metre. Any kind of missiles can be out fitted with My RF Dispenser. Moreover Old 60/80 Kms Mica missile can be very easily improved to 240 Kms range.
 
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So Mirage can be made formidable again with use of my technologies. Say kya 350KN thrust Mirage 2000 Indian Version only ko formidable banayega?
 
I think instead of planning to keep them flying till 2040, the IAF should retire them as soon as MK-2 production picks up speed by the early 2030s. Otherwise, the Mirage fleet would end up like the MiG-21 or the Jaguars, which are more a danger to the IAF itself rather than the enemy.
 
India should definitely start to install our entire package of indigenous missiles and bombs as it will significantly enhance our lethality. We can’t keep on making and relying on foreign expensive imports.
 
Buy the 18–20 Greek Mirage 2000-5 aircraft that Greece wants to sell and the 12 Qatari Mirage 2000-5 aircraft. We can easily raise two squadrons of additional Mirage 2000-5 fighters at a very low cost.

These can be supported by the 14 Mirage 2000 fighters that have been brought from France for parts cannibalization, plus the 11 that have been bought in fly-away condition.
 
First buy Greek & Qatari Mirage-2000-s then find out 110-160 KM BVRAAMs like Rafael Sky Sting, Astra-I & Astra-II BVRAAMs
 
https://nziv.net/118167/ google: "Israel has approached India, its largest arms buyer, and offered to equip all its fighters with the latest long-range air-to-air missiles, the SKY STING, which have a range far exceeding that of the Pakistan Air Force's missiles.The Sky Sting missile belongs to the sixth generation of air-to-air missiles and combines a long range of up to 250 kilometers with a three-stroke rocket engine, which gives it the rare ability to maintain its energy and speed until the final range. The missile is also equipped with a two-way data link, allowing it to receive continuous updates on the target's location during the flight, as well as a smart active radar device with high resistance to electronic jamming. It is likely that it will also incorporate a passive radar homing mode, which uses the jamming source itself as a guide to the target, in accordance with the sixth generation concept and advanced ECCM capabilities." Regards...
 
Buy the 18–20 Greek Mirage 2000-5 aircraft that Greece wants to sell and the 12 Qatari Mirage 2000-5 aircraft. We can easily raise two squadrons of additional Mirage 2000-5 fighters at a very low cost.

These can be supported by the 14 Mirage 2000 fighters that have been brought from France for parts cannibalization, plus the 11 that have been bought in fly-away condition.
That would be a good option. If Greece and Qatar would be willing to sell at a reasonable price.
A great pity that India didn't buy the Mirage 2000 production line. You guys could be punching them out like movie tickets.
 
India should throw away their Mica crap to sea and purchase R37 300 km miisles. Astra Mk1 with 100 km range is not an upgrade. MICA missiles should be destroyed. Also R77 should be thrown away. Only use Astra Mk3 and R37 full range version. Otherwise don't go for air to air battle. Use ground launched missiles. Thats fat better.
 
India should throw away their Mica crap to sea and purchase R37 300 km miisles. Astra Mk1 with 100 km range is not an upgrade. MICA missiles should be destroyed. Also R77 should be thrown away. Only use Astra Mk3 and R37 full range version. Otherwise don't go for air to air battle. Use ground launched missiles. Thats fat better.
Throw away functioning missiles that were paid for with folding money.
Makes total sense.
 
Throw away functioning missiles that were paid for with folding money.
Makes total sense.
Functioning crap. Mica miisles are 60 km range 1960 crap tec. Then use crap Mica against 250 km range new missiles and get shot. Ohh man don't know when people are gonna learn
 
Functioning crap. Mica miisles are 60 km range 1960 crap tec. Then use crap Mica against 250 km range new missiles and get shot. Ohh man don't know when people are gonna learn
'1960 crap tec.'
Seriously, now you're being silly.

The Astra MK3 weighs 220kg.
What happens when your wonderful long range missiles are defeated and your pilots are facing an enemy aircraft at 40 to 60km?

Neither the Americans, Russians or Europeans have stopped producing short to medium range dog fighting missiles. The AIM-9X, IRIS-T and MICA weigh between 90-115kg with warheads weighing between 9-12kg.
Perfect for short to medium range engagements.

Your own authorities have recovered several long range missiles that your air force defeated or had failed.
And you want to put all your eggs in one basket?
 

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