China's Massive J-20 Fleet: A Growing Threat to India's Security

China's Chengdu J-20, a fifth-generation, twin-engine fighter jet, is being produced at an accelerated pace, with estimates reaching 120 units per year.

This rapid expansion of the J-20 fleet, potentially exceeding 1,000 aircraft, has raised significant security concerns among international analysts, particularly in neighboring India.

The J-20, the world's largest fighter jet in its class, boasts a substantial range due to its size.

Experts speculate that its internal fuel capacity of 11,000 kg allows for missions deep into Indian territory without external fuel tanks. This, coupled with a speculated combat range of 2,000 km, poses a potential threat to Indian defense.

Additionally, the J-20's large internal fuel capacity suggests the potential for carrying air-launched cruise missiles. This capability, if confirmed, could enable strikes on targets deep within India, including major cities like Delhi and Kolkata.

The J-20's emphasis on stealth technology, advanced sensors, information fusion capabilities, and network connectivity further enhance its potential threat to air defense systems.

However, some aspects of the J-20 remain unclear. The true capabilities of its Chinese-made WS-15 engine are yet to be fully revealed, and the effectiveness of its stealth technology in real-world scenarios needs further testing.

India is closely monitoring the J-20's development and is expected to take appropriate measures to address any potential security threats. This could involve enhancing its air defense systems, forging strategic partnerships, or acquiring new generation fighter jets.

 

[Bharat007]

Totally agree with you Bharat007.
HAL makes me frustrated and it is beyond help and needs a surgical attack to make it work.

Also USA is on extremely heightened chinese invasion watches especially against Taiwan so it will also be beneficial for us too.

But India has the primary responsible for it so I think it is trying to buy MQ-9Bs and build more Netras and Netras IIs, etc

But one thing I am very disappointed at is ISRO not working deligently on Indian ISR and high resolution imaging satellites.
Great General MM Naravane requested 6 of these satellites in 2020 to just watch LAC only which means India needs more than two dozens of them to monitor whole of India land and sea borders.

So far ISRO has not launched any of them.

It is unnecessarily emphasizing manned space instead which does not accrue anythings to what General Naravane asked for.
See Israelis only emphasize security and defense related satellites only and India should do it too.

The USA spacecraft which took astronauts to space station got stuck there because it has many issues and they are trying to solve them. Very difficult to do.

India must put manned space on back burner until some time in future and concentrate on Indian ISR and high resolution imaging satellites launches.
This is how India can checkmate criminal china.

Yeah, that's our problem that we invest less in military space tech but atleast India is investing in ASAT...but another problem is that China is building deep underground bunkers near LAC. I don't know if India has any near LAC let alone tunnels. It amazes me that China has thousands km long underground tunnels for military purpose, for nuke transport. It can also used to store conventional assets too.

 

[NSR]

Yeah, that's our problem that we invest less in military space tech but atleast India is investing in ASAT...but another problem is that China is building deep underground bunkers near LAC. I don't know if India has any near LAC let alone tunnels. It amazes me that China has thousands km long underground tunnels for military purpose, for nuke transport. It can also used to store conventional assets too.

India was late to that game and trying to catch up feverishly but we do not hear those stories except for the Tunnel roads at high altitudes.

Remember we were ruled by wretched Khangress for 10 years who ignored all the Indian dire security and defense needs.
We are in a mess now so we are trying hard to get out of it.

 

[Parimal Pandya]

True that,HAL should be ashamed that it not only fails to produce a simple 4th gen on time,but also fails to do it with even simpler trainers like HTT-36 and Sitara.

You can not expect anything from disgusting environment for the educational institutions filled with substandard locality in the country to get the cycle repeatedly to every generation since independence

 

[Bharat007]

India was late to that game and trying to catch up feverishly but we do not hear those stories except for the Tunnel roads at high altitudes.

Remember we were ruled by wretched Khangress for 10 years who ignored all the Indian dire security and defense needs.
We are in a mess now so we are trying hard to get out of it.

Khangress is not pragmatic. They are disconnected from the idea of India as a formidable power to challenge adversaries.

 

[Snapper Snap]

Stopping Chinese Salami is the need of the hr.. What we lost we need to retake if not we need to grab Chinese lands around the thousands of Kms of border we have with them.

 

[Utopian]

My 2 cents
india and china can be greatest allies even after a bloody 62 war. France and UK were enemies once fought 100 of wars, but realised the value of coming together. Prosperity lies there.
US never fights Canada, infact Mexico, which is the biggest source of drugs and misery for USA is a friend for them, they fight in middle East or south asia, where threat does not affect their house ever.

We need to come out of cold war rhetorics and gun trotting kids discussing swankiest planes

 

[Anubhav Sharma]

We can kill 2 birds with 1 stone by getting 2 squadron of su57, the 5th gen problem and mrfa both will be done for rest we can handle indegeniously

 

[wallisk]

We can kill 2 birds with 1 stone by getting 2 squadron of su57, the 5th gen problem and mrfa both will be done for rest we can handle indegeniously

SU57 stealth is SAME AS that of Rafale F4.2... Better to buy 150 nos. of F15EX jets and also, another 56 nos. Rafale F4.2 jets soon!

 

[PKPRS]

we cant even complete process of MRFA for buying 114 Fighter jets for last two decades.

Because we looking for a 4.5 jet that costs <$149.5Mln each that we couldn’t find so far, this is why we only bought 36, because we didn’t have $50Bln at that time, it is still the same regarding finance, GOI doesn’t want to do that same mistake anymore, hopefully we will find the right jet this time that fits into our budget and at the same time helps setting up a eco system to mass produce modern fighter jets in India helping all our future local jet programs.

 

[PKPRS]

Bharat must speed up production of Tejas to 24 per year , acquire 36-54 additional Rafales and fast track development of Tejas Mark-2 and AMCA. GE F-414 is already a done deal. Collaboration for 120-130 kn new engine for AMCA must be finalized to get first engine by 2030 .

We don’t need 36-54 Rafale’s, if Navy get 26 Rafale’s, IAF can use like how they use Navy’s MIG-29K.

 

[M S Chatterji]

And here struggle is to produce 8 Tejas Mk1s a year.

Fast production by Chinese means inadequate quality. That is a hallmark of Chinese way of manufacture.

 

[PKPRS]

Remember that when J-20s descend from Himalayan mountains, our S-400, MRSAM, LRSAM, and of course Akash-ING will be waiting eagerly and salivating at chance to bag them and a Republic Day Medal to go with too.

Lest you forget,, Indian made Astra Mk 1 with 110+ kms intercept range and Mk 2 with 160+ kms intercept ranges will be waiting too.
India Mig-29s and SU-30MKIs has some Russian origin longrange BVRAAMs too.
Above all 36 Indian Rafales will be carrying 250+ kms intercept range Meteor BVRAAM missile which is the outer boundary which PLAAF will be loath to violate.

So no worries Mates.

Do you think those jets come without sending glide bombs, long range air to surface and surface to surface missiles our direction.

 

[Akshat]

Because we looking for a 4.5 jet that costs <$149.5Mln each that we couldn’t find so far, this is why we only bought 36, because we didn’t have $50Bln at that time, it is still the same regarding finance, GOI doesn’t want to do that same mistake anymore, hopefully we will find the right jet this time that fits into our budget and at the same time helps setting up a eco system to mass produce modern fighter jets in India helping all our future local jet programs.

Oh we found the perfect plane. Far cheaper than even that. But HAL couldn’t seal the deal.

 

[Akshat]

Fast production by Chinese means inadequate quality. That is a hallmark of Chinese way of manufacture.

Still at least they have something.

 

[Akshat]

And here struggle is to produce 8 Tejas Mk1s a year.

Only 5 bro.

 

[PKPRS]

Oh we found the perfect plane. Far cheaper than even that. But HAL couldn’t seal the deal.

Yes used 30 year old mirages for half the price..

 

[Mohammed Adnan]

Fast production by Chinese means inadequate quality. That is a hallmark of Chinese way of manufacture.

We Can't Determine their quality based on their production rate.
GOI Should Heavily Invest In Manufacturing Sector And Allow More Companies In Defence Sector.

 

[Mohammed Adnan]

The Problem With Indian Aerospace Industry Is
Less Companies, Less Skilled workers and Less Budget...
we should look at US In case of Aerospace industry like Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon...
We must have minimum 20 Companies...
With Heavy Investment

 

[Akshat]

Yes used 30 year old mirages for half the price..

Just shows that French planes are worthy even after decades.

 

[NSR]

Khangress is not pragmatic. They are disconnected from the idea of India as a formidable power to challenge adversaries.

Corrupt to the core.
Skinned India to the bone.

 

[NSR]

Do you think those jets come without sending glide bombs, long range air to surface and surface to surface missiles our direction.

In a war, they will use everything.
But remember that we also have Brahmos, Cruise missiles, glide bombs and long range Rudram missiles, etc
That is why GoI trying to avoid a war.

 

[Bhishma]

You are classic example of fox and sour grapes.
Common psychological defense mechanism called sour grapes rationalization. When someone desires something but cannot attain it, they may downplay its value or desirability to reduce their disappointment. They do this to protect their ego.

Underestimating your enemy's strength is the recipe for disaster. This is what Nehru did in 1962.

Dear CCP, we have discovered that user Bharat007 is a wumao. His job was to pretend as Indian and spread CCP bull$hit. He has failed spectacularly. Dont pay him. In fact put him in jail and teach him a lesson. Sign him up for involuntary organ donor program.

 

[Bhishma]

All that is fine, my friend.
But you will have to put in a bit more effort, to cope harder.

yeah I would have given respect if you were objective. I was objective and your retort is "cope harder". Can you give me x,y,z reason ? you cant, because your madrassa didnt teach how to reason

 

[Bhishma]

Can you also give me proof that J20s can't take off from near LAC?

my (stupid) response (to a stupid retort): I have already given proof - see how many videos are NOT there showing J20s taking off from LAC

lol, these wumaos are top class. Congrats CCP. you have started to scrape the bottom of the barrel. you are recruiting people with ZERO logical thinking to spread your psyops. you have outdone yourself.

 

[PKPRS]

Just shows that French planes are worthy even after decades.

Ask IAF, everything they have is worthy for them from 70’s MIG-21, they still use them unless it becomes unworthy itself falling off from the sky.

 

[BCharlie]

we cant even complete process of MRFA for buying 114 Fighter jets for last two decades.

We are thinking & thinking & love to talk too much & do nothing;

 

[BCharlie]

Fast production by Chinese means inadequate quality. That is a hallmark of Chinese way of manufacture.

Assuming you are right Sir, the best way to test their capability, quality & effectiveness is to go to War with China.. Lets whoop some behinds with our Jaguars, MiG21s, Su30s, Rafales.. etc; The sooner we go to war & destroy their 200 F-20s & 200 J-10Cs in their Arsenal (as they are junk material), the better for us.

 

[Akshat]

Ask IAF, everything they have is worthy for them from 70’s MIG-21, they still use them unless it becomes unworthy itself falling off from the sky.

Well they have won every single war they have participated in so their judgement is surely bang on. That’s why they chose Rafale.

 

[Bhishma]

My 2 cents
india and china can be greatest allies even after a bloody 62 war. France and UK were enemies once fought 100 of wars, but realised the value of coming together. Prosperity lies there.
US never fights Canada, infact Mexico, which is the biggest source of drugs and misery for USA is a friend for them, they fight in middle East or south asia, where threat does not affect their house ever.

We need to come out of cold war rhetorics and gun trotting kids discussing swankiest planes

Its all Xis fault. He had a real chance to turn it around. See, Mao is an idiot who insisted on capturing Tibet for god knows what reason. Then he betrayed and backstabbed India. Then he participated in Nato's anti-India designs. India and China really had no problems. Nato just used China as their pawn in the greater game. Mao simply played along. That bull$hit policy has been continued till this day.

Xi in his magnificient brilliance has sought help from every country in the Indian ocean to guarantee their routes EXCEPT India. If they created a strong alliance with us, wont we be able to guarantee their supply routes ? What an effing idi0t. He even visited India and had a real chance to turn the past failed policies around. And then he did Galwan and all those BS. Now its too late. Xi had a real opportunity to build strong ties with India and shift the world to a sinocentric world (from the current anglo-centric). He failed. His one big mistake - Galwan.

Relationships can be mended and improved. Best example is Afghanistan. From a country that hijacked our flight to a country who is deeply grateful for us today, we have turned things around. (thanked us for the T20 semis qualification)

Now China will implode, they are desperately trying to start a war to deflect attention. So far it has not worked. Their economy is collapsing. Population dwindling. At this rate, their country will just disintegrate in two decades. Its a long steady fall. And the reason for this fiasco - Xi.

 

[Rajsm]

Its okay.

Our HAL has already started planning to gearing-up/planning/looking-at/eyeing for the first AMCA prototype's 3D render-reveal, immediately after the first batch of Tejas Mk1A are delivered to IAF, by say, around 2035 A.D.

China will Accomodate us.....hindi China bhai bhai lollol