Govt High-Panel May Involve Private Sector to Boost Tejas Mk1A Production, Seeks to Fill IAF's Dwindling Squadrons Quickly

Govt High-Panel May Involve Private Sector to Boost Tejas Mk1A Production, Seeks to Fill IAF's Dwindling Squadrons Quickly


The Indian government has formed a high-level committee to explore ways to accelerate the production of the indigenous Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas Mk1A, potentially including a significant role for the private sector.

This initiative, spearheaded by the Ministry of Defence (MoD), aims to rapidly increase the Indian Air Force's (IAF) fighter squadron numbers and bolster India's self-reliance in defense manufacturing.

The committee, announced in early February 2025 and chaired by Defence Secretary Rajesh Kumar Singh, includes representatives from the IAF, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), and other key stakeholders.

The panel has been given a one-month timeframe to deliver recommendations on streamlining production, identifying bottlenecks, and ensuring the IAF receives the aircraft it urgently needs.

The IAF currently operates only 31 fighter squadrons, significantly below its sanctioned strength of 42, a deficiency that poses challenges in the face of potential threats from neighboring countries.

One of the primary considerations is the potential involvement of private sector companies in manufacturing a substantial portion of a forthcoming order for 97 Tejas Mk1A aircraft. This would represent a significant shift from the current model, where HAL is the primary manufacturer. This change is being considered to increase the overall production rate.

HAL, which received a contract worth Rs 48,000 crore (approximately $5.8 billion USD) in 2021 for 83 Tejas Mk1A jets, is expected to receive an additional order for 97 more, valued at over Rs 65,000 crore (approximately $7.8 billion USD). However, concerns have been raised about HAL's capacity to meet the increased production demands, leading the committee to investigate outsourcing possibilities.

The committee is reportedly leaning towards transferring a part of the 97-aircraft order to private firms. Companies already involved in discussions for the AMCA program – India's planned fifth-generation stealth fighter – are considered strong candidates. These companies could potentially begin by assembling Tejas Mk1A jets under HAL's guidance, gradually increasing their involvement.

A significant challenge lies in the supply of F404 engines from General Electric (GE), which power the Tejas Mk1A. While GE is scheduled to restart deliveries in March 2025, their commitment is currently limited to 12 engines annually. This uncertainty casts doubt on HAL's ambitious goal of producing 30 jets per year by 2027 and achieving the IAF's target of receiving all 180 Mk1A aircraft (the initial 83 plus the additional 97) by 2031-32.

To potentially mitigate this, reports suggest that HAL might be asked to lease its Nashik facility, designated as the third Tejas Mk1A production line, to a private sector entity. This arrangement would initially involve the private firm learning the assembly process under HAL's supervision.

Eventually, the facility could transition to full private control, potentially serving as a production hub for both the Tejas Mk1A and the future AMCA. This approach aligns with the government's broader vision of creating a Special Purpose Vehicle (SPV) for AMCA production, involving HAL, ADA, and a private partner.

The proposed plan is not without its challenges. HAL's Nashik plant is new and only started the production in 2023. Transferring control of a strategic asset like the Nashik facility could lead to operational complexities. Private companies, while enthusiastic, will need substantial technology transfer and training to match HAL's decades of experience in fighter jet assembly.

Moreover, the reliability of GE's engine supply remains a critical factor, as even a privately-run production line could be hampered by insufficient engine deliveries. The urgency of the situation is further underscored by the IAF's publicly expressed concerns about its dwindling squadron strength, voiced by Air Chief Marshal A.P. Singh in 2024, highlighting the need for a swift and effective solution.
 
Vacancies galore for budding future Marshalls. Allocate a couple as part of their training. Stick with professionalism, hourly recordings, strict benchmarks in training Marshalls.
 
Not possible. GE has to supply 40 engines per year, and GE doesn't have that much production rate. First, GE will supply only 12 to 14 engines in the 2025 year, followed by 16 in 2026, & in 2027, 20 engines will be supplied. In 3 years of span, 48 to 50 engines will be supplied by GE. Then, from 2028, GE may start supplying engines between 24 to 28 per year.
 
Not possible. GE has to supply 40 engines per year, and GE doesn't have that much production rate.
If it's not possible, shouldn't the program be cancelled?

What is the point of inducting an aircraft which would not even be able to meet the replacement for usual attrition of jets in the IAF?
 
I have not seen anything remotely high-tech in HAL's assembly facilities. One shed with some tools and ladders...
 
Government is thinking right but not viewing correctly the necessary procedure to be followed. The shift of fighter jet production from HAL to the private sector is long overdue. HAL has to have competition in order to become efficient. But it should only be involved in transferring technical know-how to the private sector if that is necessary. All other things should be left to enterprising entities to evolve with active guidance from the ultimate user--the Indian Air Force.
 
This should have been done much earlier with regards to drones and trainers as well, as that would have given private sector firms plenty of experience from scratch.
 
They should look for alternative engine options. The US is playing and laughing at us. HAL is not able to deliver the required Tejas 83 MK1A on time, and they want more orders. Laughing situation.
 
It's better to have something than nothing
But that "something" should also not be too little, too late. Right?

So far, even if we were to assume that with one GE engine to spare for the Tejas Mk-1A, HAL has delivered exactly zero jets to the IAF against their claim of delivering the first jet to the IAF by March 2024.
 
If it's not possible, shouldn't the program be cancelled?

What is the point of inducting an aircraft which would not even be able to meet the replacement for usual attrition of jets in the IAF?
GE had a production rate of 16 engines per year. In the last 18 months, they have not supplied a single engine. Second, in 2025, the current year, most likely 12 to 16 engines will be delivered. So from where will 40 engines be delivered? By a well-known aero-engine-established, professional, giant OEM from the West? Ha, ha, ha. From last year, I am saying GE Aviation should ramp up production to beyond 30 engines per year. What were they doing in the last 18 months? How professional are they? Knowing another 97 Tejas MK1A orders will be placed & each fighter jet requires 3.5 engines over a lifespan, plus components/spares. Time for starting another canteen in the GE factory with the addition of aloo bhature.
 
Instead of waiting for the engines to start, start building the rest of the plane. Finish 20-30 airframes and when engines come in, then assemble them and deliver.
 
Government is thinking right but not viewing correctly the necessary procedure to be followed. The shift of fighter jet production from HAL to the private sector is long overdue. HAL has to have competition in order to become efficient. But it should only be involved in transferring technical know-how to the private sector if that is necessary. All other things should be left to enterprising entities to evolve with active guidance from the ultimate user--the Indian Air Force.
Give private sector a level field with DPSUs then the intentional delays of HAL will be history.
 
Not possible. GE has to supply 40 engines per year, and GE doesn't have that much production rate. First, GE will supply only 12 to 14 engines in the 2025 year, followed by 16 in 2026, & in 2027, 20 engines will be supplied. In 3 years of span, 48 to 50 engines will be supplied by GE. Then, from 2028, GE may start supplying engines between 24 to 28 per year.
Do we need an excuse of GE for the inefficiency of HAL? It is HAL's wrong decision of going in for the F404 engine, the production of which had closed. One has lost count of the numerous blunders done by HAL.
 
Everything will work only if there is a steady supply of engines. Start testing Kaveri, Safran, and RD-33 on Tejas immediately.
Even if everything is there HAL will only screw drive 25% of the capacity. How can one defend such an inefficient organisation?
 
Time for starting another canteen in the GE factory with the addition of aloo bhature.
Bro, instead of all that bol-bachan, whether it is because of Aloo-Bhature, which, as you claim, the GE engineers spend most of the time munching on at their facilities in New Hampshire or Vermont, let's assume GE will provide zero engines for LCA Tejas Mk1A.

With that settled, shouldn't it be prudent that the HAL Tejas program be cancelled altogether?

Obviously, since we cannot expect to replace the GE-F404 engine with Hero Splendor's 115 CC engine and operationalize the jet.

The whole program should be junked and another jet should be prioritized, which uses a different vendor than GE, since we all know that GE are a bunch of Aloo-Bhatura munching hillbillies.
 
HAL should pressurize GE by starting a feasibility study for an alternative engine for LCA alongside progressing the current configuration.

If a suitable alternative is found, GE will find themselves having to ramp up engine supplies or lose further orders to a midlife upgrade. Again, HAL will get multiple options when upgrading.
 
Which private company can take up this activity? It costs billions to establish a manufacturing and assembly plant. Best is to outsource the fuselage and components to private cos. But it will take months/years to transfer the Tejas MK1A know-how to private companies. All jokers will shut their mouths when GE starts supplying the engines.
 
Good move. Let HAL have a competitor. HAL baiters already started blaming GE. Due course, we will now know who is the real culprit for delayed production of Tejas.
 
Instead of waiting for the engines to start, start building the rest of the plane. Finish 20-30 airframes and when engines come in, then assemble them and deliver.
Very true. If the same answer came from a pvt company, opposition would have created a chaos in parliament. People would have filed a case of cheating public. Since it's a govt company and both political parties need employee votes, no one is questioning the credibility of these kinds of statements.

Who is stopping them from converting MK1 to MK1A till ordered F404 arrives? No accountability with HAL is the main problem for these kinds of delays.

Two more assembly lines to be handled separately with a pvt company (LT or Tata) delivering fuselage/any other important component, directly monitored by IAF, is the only solution. Help these guys for two years; after that, you [will] see their prod rate.
 
They should split the order. But the better option would be to scrap the additional 97 Tejas MK1A and develop more Tejas MK2 jets as its capabilities are much better and superior. We should at least manufacture at least 200+ jets so we can expand our coverage and increase our fire power to the frontline. They will be semi stealth jets unlike the Tejas MK1A jets.

If they still insist on manufacturing the extra 97 additional Tejas MK1A jets then they should give that order to the private sector but they should use their existing facilities to manufacture the jets rather than use HAL facilities.
 

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