Govt High-Panel May Involve Private Sector to Boost Tejas Mk1A Production, Seeks to Fill IAF's Dwindling Squadrons Quickly

Govt High-Panel May Involve Private Sector to Boost Tejas Mk1A Production, Seeks to Fill IAF's Dwindling Squadrons Quickly


The Indian government has formed a high-level committee to explore ways to accelerate the production of the indigenous Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas Mk1A, potentially including a significant role for the private sector.

This initiative, spearheaded by the Ministry of Defence (MoD), aims to rapidly increase the Indian Air Force's (IAF) fighter squadron numbers and bolster India's self-reliance in defense manufacturing.

The committee, announced in early February 2025 and chaired by Defence Secretary Rajesh Kumar Singh, includes representatives from the IAF, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), and other key stakeholders.

The panel has been given a one-month timeframe to deliver recommendations on streamlining production, identifying bottlenecks, and ensuring the IAF receives the aircraft it urgently needs.

The IAF currently operates only 31 fighter squadrons, significantly below its sanctioned strength of 42, a deficiency that poses challenges in the face of potential threats from neighboring countries.

One of the primary considerations is the potential involvement of private sector companies in manufacturing a substantial portion of a forthcoming order for 97 Tejas Mk1A aircraft. This would represent a significant shift from the current model, where HAL is the primary manufacturer. This change is being considered to increase the overall production rate.

HAL, which received a contract worth Rs 48,000 crore (approximately $5.8 billion USD) in 2021 for 83 Tejas Mk1A jets, is expected to receive an additional order for 97 more, valued at over Rs 65,000 crore (approximately $7.8 billion USD). However, concerns have been raised about HAL's capacity to meet the increased production demands, leading the committee to investigate outsourcing possibilities.

The committee is reportedly leaning towards transferring a part of the 97-aircraft order to private firms. Companies already involved in discussions for the AMCA program – India's planned fifth-generation stealth fighter – are considered strong candidates. These companies could potentially begin by assembling Tejas Mk1A jets under HAL's guidance, gradually increasing their involvement.

A significant challenge lies in the supply of F404 engines from General Electric (GE), which power the Tejas Mk1A. While GE is scheduled to restart deliveries in March 2025, their commitment is currently limited to 12 engines annually. This uncertainty casts doubt on HAL's ambitious goal of producing 30 jets per year by 2027 and achieving the IAF's target of receiving all 180 Mk1A aircraft (the initial 83 plus the additional 97) by 2031-32.

To potentially mitigate this, reports suggest that HAL might be asked to lease its Nashik facility, designated as the third Tejas Mk1A production line, to a private sector entity. This arrangement would initially involve the private firm learning the assembly process under HAL's supervision.

Eventually, the facility could transition to full private control, potentially serving as a production hub for both the Tejas Mk1A and the future AMCA. This approach aligns with the government's broader vision of creating a Special Purpose Vehicle (SPV) for AMCA production, involving HAL, ADA, and a private partner.

The proposed plan is not without its challenges. HAL's Nashik plant is new and only started the production in 2023. Transferring control of a strategic asset like the Nashik facility could lead to operational complexities. Private companies, while enthusiastic, will need substantial technology transfer and training to match HAL's decades of experience in fighter jet assembly.

Moreover, the reliability of GE's engine supply remains a critical factor, as even a privately-run production line could be hampered by insufficient engine deliveries. The urgency of the situation is further underscored by the IAF's publicly expressed concerns about its dwindling squadron strength, voiced by Air Chief Marshal A.P. Singh in 2024, highlighting the need for a swift and effective solution.
 
Do we need an excuse of GE for the inefficiency of HAL? It is HAL's wrong decision of going in for the F404 engine, the production of which had closed. One has lost count of the numerous blunders done by HAL.
Foreign propagandist! Responded to you earlier. Reiterate the facts.
  1. ADA designs and selects the engine, and IAF acts as gate-keeper through CDR. Engine is a whole systems approach.
  2. HAL doesn’t select the engine. It’s handed down.
  3. Geopolitics, rightly so, is the domain of MoFA and MoD. I don’t think HAL can fix it and persuade GE to deliver. GoI possibly can.
  4. IAF had the option of giving an early order and possibly avoiding the F404 ram-down by GE. It happened over a period of time. IAF took three years after the HAL RFP to finalize the price and order. We all are now paying a price.
  5. Venerable GE has repeatedly defaulted. GE apologists can’t save the day.
 
Which private company can take up this activity? It costs billions to establish a manufacturing and assembly plant. Best is to outsource the fuselage and components to private cos. But it will take months/years to transfer the Tejas MK1A know-how to private companies. All jokers will shut their mouths when GE starts supplying the engines.
A lot of the parts are already manufactured by the private sector and then sent to HAL to assemble and certify the jet and they don’t manufacture a lot either.

Also the private sector companies already have the capability to manufacture the parts and components or it can very quickly refurbish their own facilities.
 
They should split the order. But the better option would be to scrap the additional 97 Tejas MK1A and develop more Tejas MK2 jets as its capabilities are much better and superior. We should at least manufacture at least 200+ jets so we can expand our coverage and increase our fire power to the frontline. They will be semi stealth jets unlike the Tejas MK1A jets.

If they still insist on manufacturing the extra 97 additional Tejas MK1A jets then they should give that order to the private sector but they should use their existing facilities to manufacture the jets rather than use HAL facilities.
Which private companies have existing manufacturing/assembling facilities for fighter jets? If any private company had that facility, then the Tejas order would have gone to them.
 
Give private sector a level field with DPSUs then the intentional delays of HAL will be history.
Aren't we a free and market forces economy? No one has ever stopped any private player from setting up an assembly line. In fact, most of the Tejas structure is being manufactured by the likes of Tata, L&T, Adani/Alpha Design, Dynamatics etc.

I'd be personally very happy if any private player gets into the role of final assembly and system integration. It hasn't happened so far, and there are very good reasons for it. It will require large and upfront investments with a long and slow return cycle with mostly one buyer, i.e., MoD. MoD is a very bad paymaster for domestic players - they don't want to pay for the efficiency. Cost is the only pivot. IAF orders have been piecemeal, with change in sight. It's not a very easy transition.
 
Even if everything is there HAL will only screw drive 25% of the capacity. How can one defend such an inefficient organisation?
Again, propaganda! Get your facts right: HAL delivered about 36 MK1s till 2023, starting from June 2015, using one Tejas assembly line of 5 hangars. Three hangars of Kiran won't cut it. And no GE F404 engines since then.

How about Dassault? How many, against your claim of 3 Rafales per month? Did Dassault touch 12 last year? I heard your French control the entire ecosystem.
 
Air Chief's plaintalk is working ...
That's true. The GoI must act. Setting up another committee won't help much. Pressure on GE and resolution of geopolitical issues with the US by the GoI might.

If the GoI can incentivize private players, that will help bring competition and efficiency.
 
You don't need a committee to realize that. Private sector participation in final assembly is the solution if quality and quantity are to improve in our aero sector.
 
They should look for alternative engine options. The US is playing and laughing at us. HAL is not able to deliver the required Tejas 83 MK1A on time, and they want more orders. Laughing situation.
The whole airplane is designed around the engine. Replacing the engine is a major redesign. The airplane has to go through the certification process again. Forget the engine, ADA couldn't redesign proper DSI for the MK2.
 
Again, propaganda! Get your facts right: HAL delivered about 36 MK1s till 2023, starting from June 2015, using one Tejas assembly line of 5 hangars. Three hangars of Kiran won't cut it. And no GE F404 engines since then.

How about Dassault? How many, against your claim of 3 Rafales per month? Did Dassault touch 12 last year? I heard your French control the entire ecosystem.
GE delivered the first order of 75 engines as of 2021. It is a mystery what happened to those engines, which didn't get into an airframe.
 
Everything will work only if there is a steady supply of engines. Start testing Kaveri, Safran, and RD-33 on Tejas immediately.
No, as the Air Force chief mentioned, the Tejas Mk1A is not yet ready. All the required improvements over the Mk1 are not completed.
 
Everything will work only if there is a steady supply of engines. Start testing Kaveri, Safran, and RD-33 on Tejas immediately.
Engine swap is not an easy job. The whole airplane is designed around an engine. The airplane has to be certified again. ADA couldn't redesign the front section of the Tejas with the MK2; it should have come with DSI. ADA will for sure take a lot more time for a major redesign like an engine change. MK1A is done now, GE is the only option for the immediate future.
 
GOVT should allow HAL to embed its engineers, technicians, skilled production, design, operations officials, and other manpower to be inducted into HAL facilities in a ratio of 90:10 initially (90% from HAL and 10% from private companies) and every 6 months induct 10% more from private companies and reduce HAL, with a yearly increase. This ratio can be brought down to 25% HAL and 75% private, with final figures of 10% HAL and 90% private.
 
How will private participation help in pushing production when GE is not able to provide more than 12 engines per year. Can't manufacture aircraft then wait for engines.
 
Batter scrap HAL and get some batter private sector. Otherwise by the time private sector comes in play before that too many crashes will create new highs. How many assets of HAL is scrapped by now? Ask air force.
 
They should look for alternative engine options. The US is playing and laughing at us. HAL is not able to deliver the required Tejas 83 MK1A on time, and they want more orders. Laughing situation.
You are absolutely right. HAL is unable to fulfill its previous order and wants new order. IAF needs to put its foot down hard. HAL must not be awarded any order until it starts fulfilling its previous order. Defence ministry babus are looking elsewhere and don't understand the urgency of the matter. India must explore other options for engines instead of becoming fools in the hands of USA. HAL doesn't understand this.
 
Not possible. GE has to supply 40 engines per year, and GE doesn't have that much production rate. First, GE will supply only 12 to 14 engines in the 2025 year, followed by 16 in 2026, & in 2027, 20 engines will be supplied. In 3 years of span, 48 to 50 engines will be supplied by GE. Then, from 2028, GE may start supplying engines between 24 to 28 per year.
RR should be allocated resources to start building engines in India.
 
Get an alternative for GE. US literally giving $400M to our enemy. Basically its a fund to be used against us.
Be proactive get RR to supply engines built in India. India UK Australia Canada South Africa Brazil plus Japan and South Korea is where the momentum will be in the future. Sign up agreements. Secure partnerships.
 
The whole airplane is designed around the engine. Replacing the engine is a major redesign. The airplane has to go through the certification process again. Forget the engine, ADA couldn't redesign proper DSI for the MK2.
Start local certification rolling. Testing facilities should have been built yesterday, advise the unfamiliar immediately. Certification facilities need to be built and approved or positions deemed vacant now. Those unable to perform move aside for others to do the job right up to the Top, no exceptions.
 
You are absolutely right. HAL is unable to fulfill its previous order and wants new order. IAF needs to put its foot down hard. HAL must not be awarded any order until it starts fulfilling its previous order. Defence ministry babus are looking elsewhere and don't understand the urgency of the matter. India must explore other options for engines instead of becoming fools in the hands of USA. HAL doesn't understand this.
If you CAN'T build an engine means you can't build a plane. Full stop. Move over for those who CAN. simple. There are capable people and there are incapable people. If you can't do the job, you can't please take a break.
 
Again, propaganda! Get your facts right: HAL delivered about 36 MK1s till 2023, starting from June 2015, using one Tejas assembly line of 5 hangars. Three hangars of Kiran won't cut it. And no GE F404 engines since then.

How about Dassault? How many, against your claim of 3 Rafales per month? Did Dassault touch 12 last year? I heard your French control the entire ecosystem.
If there are no engines for that plane and you don't have facility to get other engines approved for it because you don't have the facility to get it certified than DUMP that frame.
 
Engine swap is not an easy job. The whole airplane is designed around an engine. The airplane has to be certified again. ADA couldn't redesign the front section of the Tejas with the MK2; it should have come with DSI. ADA will for sure take a lot more time for a major redesign like an engine change. MK1A is done now, GE is the only option for the immediate future.
It looks like there is a lack of Designers. Better allocate funds to professional designers or BUY the designs from others. I think there's a circus merry-go-round of miscommunication. Maybe a course on productivity would be helpful.
 

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