GTRE Poised to Select Foreign Partner for 120kN AMCA Engine Development by Year End, Aims for Core Rollout and Ground Testing by 2029

GTRE Poised to Select Foreign Partner for 120kN AMCA Engine Development by Year End, Aims for Core Rollout and Ground Testing by 2029


India's pursuit of advanced military aviation technology is set to take a major leap forward as the Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE) prepares to finalise a partnership with a global manufacturer for the joint development of a powerful new jet engine.

The agreement, expected by the end of 2025, will pave the way for a 120-kilonewton (kN) thrust engine designed to power the nation's futuristic Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA).

The GTRE, a key laboratory under the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), is spearheading this critical project.

According to officials familiar with the plan, the collaboration aims to produce a next-generation propulsion system for the 5.5-generation stealth fighter.

The project timeline is ambitious, with developers targeting the rollout of the engine's core technology within four years, setting the stage for the first ground tests of a complete demonstrator engine by 2029.

Ambitious Timeline for a Critical Technology​

The development program has been mapped out in distinct phases to ensure the engine meets the advanced requirements of the AMCA Mk-2 variant. Following the finalisation of the international partnership, the project milestones are as follows:
  • By 2029: The engine's core, the most complex component that generates the initial power, is scheduled for completion. A full technological demonstrator, which includes an afterburner for short bursts of maximum power, will undergo its first run and begin comprehensive ground testing.
  • By 2032: After successful ground trials, the engine will be fitted to a dedicated flying test aircraft for three years of rigorous airborne evaluation. This phase is crucial for assessing performance, reliability, and safety in real-world flight conditions.
  • Post-2032: Once airborne tests are complete, the engine will be integrated with an AMCA prototype for final validation. The certification for the initial batch of production-ready engines is anticipated to be completed within approximately seven years from the start of the project.

Capabilities and Long-Term Strategic Vision​

This new engine is being designed to provide cutting-edge capabilities essential for a modern stealth fighter. Key features will include the ability to supercruise, which is sustained supersonic flight without the heavy fuel consumption of an afterburner.

It will also boast a high thrust-to-weight ratio for superior agility, advanced stealth characteristics to reduce detection, and greater fuel efficiency for extended operational range.

The project is viewed as a cornerstone of India's long-term strategic goals. The engine is planned to have a production life of nearly three decades, with built-in potential for continuous minor and major upgrades.

These enhancements could see future versions of the engine powering sixth-generation manned and unmanned combat aircraft, ensuring India's air defence capabilities remain formidable for decades to come.

While the specific foreign partner has not been officially announced, leading global aerospace firms such as Safran of France, General Electric from the USA, and the UK's Rolls-Royce are considered the primary contenders.

This partnership will move beyond simple procurement and focus on the transfer of critical technology, allowing India to build upon the experience gained from its earlier Kaveri engine program and establish a self-reliant defence industrial base.

This collaboration is a vital component of the government's "Atmanirbhar Bharat" (Self-Reliant India) and "Make in India" initiatives, aiming to foster a robust domestic ecosystem for designing and manufacturing advanced aero-engines with support from both public sector enterprises like Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) and private industry.
 
Very nice. That means the development timeline is exactly 10 years. But before integrating it on the AMCA prototype, it should be integrated on an old twin-engine fighter jet, just to validate the engine performance. Hope it is going to be RR. All components should be manufactured in Bharat and from local players. The prototype should be assembled in Bharat. At the moment, RR seems to be the front-runner to seal the deal. With an eye on the future AMCA engine's potential of generating a further 20% thrust of 145 kN with minor modification, it will be used in 6th Gen fighter jets.
 
I am confused, so which engines are we exactly using for amca 🤔🤔
Safron engines from france with full TOT
OR
GE engines with full TOT
OR
DRDO engines with OEM
Here, the focus is on the AMCA Mk2 Engine, not on the AMCA Mk1.
  1. Safran does not even have an engine to offer for AMCA, not even for Tejas Mk2.
  2. GE F414 engines will be installed in the AMCA Mk1, which will be inducted in 40 numbers, in Tejas Mk2, and in TEDBF.
  3. DRDO and foreign OEMs in collaboration will make a 120KN engine which will be used in AMCA Mk2 and later replace F414 engines from AMCA Mk1, Tejas Mk2, and TEDBF.
According to some recent articles, due to hurdles in GE talks, Indian authorities have reached France for M88-4 engines, which will produce 105 KN thrust (this engine was proposed but never materialized). However, HAL dismisses reports of a stalled GE414 engine deal and confirms 'negotiations on track'. According to Defence Secretary Rajesh Singh, the launch of the F414 jet engine manufacturing line will happen this year.

Let's hope for the best.

The government should just import F414 off the shelf from America and should give up on TOT and entirely focus on the 120 KN engine program. The main reason for project delays is that we only focus on TOT from foreign OEMs; neither do they provide full TOT, and even after getting TOT, our DRDO and HAL-like organizations always fail to absorb technologies. So, instead of wasting time begging for TOT, it is better to buy them off the shelf and reverse engineer them.
 
Recall FGFA, Kaveri, and Snecma deals. While we are going for joint ventures, we should continue our own development programmes in parallel. Hot core technology they will only give once we are near developing our own.
 
Yes, RR appears to be the leading OEM in this project. It's a long term project will take time, and resources which is unavoidedable. Once this project is executed successfully it will lay a foundation for R&D, manufacturing infrastructure, eco system and fresh skilled staff with self belief for new ventures. Examples are ISRO, missiles pgme and Radars. Most important is negotiation for 100% TOT for AMCA engines without any catch.
 
India must come out with technological prowess to beat the thrust and speed of the engines that power the F-35 fighters of the USA. There in lies the edge to defeat India's advaseries.
 
I don't understand why they're bent upon reinventing the required engine. When Japan is offering its most advanced 140kN without afterburner for joint manufacturing in India with complete technology exposure for both country's defence requirements and also saving all the crucial time to catch up with China's 6th generation, which is fast-paced as an immediate threat through sharing the same with Pakistan for free in exchange for Gilgit-Baltistan and as a subservient nation to China's ulterior expansionism.

Our think tank needs to be practical and real regarding the actual ground realities.

Even Russia is offering a similar thing, along with its Su-57, with complete technology transfer and manufacturing in India, which will also build on our strong, all-weather relationship based on trust.

May God give them wisdom to understand the urgency to take a call on a war footing, as America is very dubious in its dealings with Pakistan. As there's news that Nur Khan airbase is a secret American base totally controlled by America.
 
I don't know why India is not pursuing the invitation with Japan. Their goal of 140KN dry thrust and 190KN with afterburner seems far more future-proofed. Inclusion of UK means RR involvement, which seems to be the frontrunner for AMCA Mk2 talks. While in comparison, the F135 engine on F35 from Pratt & Whitney already has similar specs for the Gen 5 F35. Their 6th-gen fighter will leapfrog this and have air superiority.

India needs similar tech matching Japan's target if we are to counter China's 6th gen.
 
I am confused, so which engines are we exactly using for amca 🤔🤔
Safron engines from france with full TOT
OR
GE engines with full TOT
OR
DRDO engines with OEM
Out of four options, Safran is the only company with the lowest power engine 50kn, everybody else at-least have decent power engine to start with.

I think none above will be OEM partner, It is going to be with Japan.
 
Out of four options, Safran is the only company with the lowest power engine 50kn, everybody else at-least have decent power engine to start with.

I think none above will be OEM partner, It is going to be with Japan.
Japanese products are quite expensive. I don't think Bharat can afford it.
 
Japanese products are quite expensive. I don't think Bharat can afford it.
They are transferring full technology on IHI XF9-1according to latest news. theirs is the only engine with 107KN thrust and has a potential to go up to 197KN which is good for 6th gen also, money is not a big deal, their engine is readily available unlike engine ifeas from other OEM’s which will take at-least a decade to make.
 
It’s great that we have a variety of options but most likely it’s either going to be RR or Safran. We need to make sure that we quickly sign a deal and make sure that we receive 100% of the technology and manufacture it entirely in India.

It will take at least 10 years to properly design, develop, manufacture and finally test it thoroughly before we can start production. We may also need to make minor changes to improve its performance on the 2nd or 3rd or 4th prototype engine with the amount of thrust, fuel consumption, fuel efficiency and the type of metallurgy used.

It will also be very expensive to develop it but we will gain the education, knowledge, skills etc which will allow us to develop better engines in future. We will also no longer be reliant on a foreign expensive imports or be coerced by foreign countries to suit their foreign policy etc.
 
I am anxiously anticipating hearing the announcement on the collaboration with a foreign partnership in producing the 120kN AMCA Engine. Last time it was announced, the ideal foreign partner was supposed to be revealed during Aero India 2025, but it didn't happen. I hope this piece of news is serious about announcing the deal by the end of 2025. Hopefully, it will become a reality. I hope it's not Safran or GE again. No more American and French engines or even other military hardware, for that matter.
 
I am confused, so which engines are we exactly using for amca 🤔🤔
Safron engines from france with full TOT
OR
GE engines with full TOT
OR
DRDO engines with OEM
 

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