High Costs Could Derail India's Local Manufacturing Plans for Stryker Armored Vehicles

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India's ambitious plan to jointly produce Stryker armored vehicles under the 'Make in India' initiative is facing a significant hurdle due to the steep estimated cost. Sources suggest that the initial cost of the project could exceed $1.5 billion, with each unit carrying a substantial $5 million markup.

A key element of the deal involves a transfer of technology (ToT) from the United States, facilitating local production and assembly of the vehicles. This includes transferring technical documentation for medium-term production of spare parts and assembling vehicles from the hull stage.

The initial order is expected to encompass around 300 units, spanning different Stryker variants, reflecting the Indian Army's commitment to modernizing its fleet. The potential for future orders and variant expansions remains high, contingent on the success of the initial batch. However, concerns about the high cost of the project have raised questions about its feasibility.

Additional factors contributing to the cost include a request from the Indian Army for more powerful engines, a necessity for enhanced performance in diverse terrains.

The Army's procurement plan also includes various specialized variants like command vehicles, medical evacuation vehicles, NBC reconnaissance vehicles, and infantry carrier vehicles equipped with a 30mm cannon.
 
Kestrel costs 25 millions and Stryker is 45 millions in usd! So, no point chasing make in India of USA weapons; other than Javelin MPATGM's. ALSO, Rafale-M deal of just under 40,000 crores inr for 26 jets comes to around 182+ millions usd per jet of Rafale F3R base equivalent jet. Therefore, Rafale F4.2 would be around 40 millions costlier i.e., around 220 millions usd each jet for direct purchases from France - Total for 114 nos. jets at 25 Billions usd! For make in India, it might be just under 30 Billions usd for 114 nos F4.2 jets I believe so very strongly...
 
Too pricey at $5 million a piece.
Better than paying $10Bln for buying only 36 Rafale’s and paying $7Bln for only 22 Rafale M and 4 used Rafale’s, paying a whopping $17Bln to get only 62 jets, nothing can beat this idiocracy.
 
Better than paying $10Bln for buying only 36 Rafale’s and paying $7Bln for only 22 Rafale M and 4 used Rafale’s, paying a whopping $17Bln to get only 62 jets, nothing can beat this idiocracy.
There you go with those incorrect numbers again. The Rafale deal for the IAF was at 7.8 billion Euros for 36 aircraft plus 18 options, which were not exercised. As on the date the contract was signed (23 September 2016), the Euro to USD conversion rate shows that the whole deal came to just shy of 8.75 billion USD, not 10 billion (note that these are 2016 numbers). The number only crosses 10 billion USD if you adjust it to 2024. Large numbers of weapons and spares were included in that deal. Moreover, a part of that contract value would have been set aside for the options as well, and when the options were not exercised, this money would have been refunded or adjusted in payments.

Secondly, coming to the proposed acquisition of Rafale Ms for the Navy, you have never actually provided any source which actually states that the 4 Rafale trainers will be second-hand aircraft. As such, that is a nonsensical claim made by you. As it is, France is very much against selling second-hand Rafales to anyone, simply because there are nations willing to buy such aircraft on the cheap, and this has the potential to seriously impact the French Air and Space Force's availability numbers for another 3-4 years if the jets are sold.

More importantly, you have just pulled out that 7 billion USD figure out of thin air without any justification. If you bother to follow news, there have been reports that the base price for the 26 Rafale Ms is to be around 4 billion Euros, or 4.28 billion USD as per today's rates. Of course, ISEs and the like will increase that number, but it will almost certainly not reach 7 billion. Maybe 5.5-ish billion, but the final number is not going to touch 7 billion. Oh, and that number includes spares and weapons.

All I will say is this: Cool your jets. Calm down, and please don't spread information that isn't backed up by data or sources.
 
For those who are batting for Kestrel: Kestrel or Mahindra 8×8 are armoured protected vehicle for mainly carrying of troops and other related purposes. They lack weapons such as mortar, atgm etc. Stryker is out and out armoured FIGHTING vehicle and each unit dedicated to particular operation with better data link instruments.
 
No the USA won’t give any critical ToT and local production of critical technology like the engine, transmission, main canon gun, machine gun, EW, anti tank killer, ATGM etc. At best they will just give you the basic vehicle, tyres, suspension etc which are something that we can develop ourselves now.
We will only find out what is being given when details of deal are made public
 
For those who are batting for Kestrel: Kestrel or Mahindra 8×8 are armoured protected vehicle for mainly carrying of troops and other related purposes. They lack weapons such as mortar, atgm etc. Stryker is out and out armoured FIGHTING vehicle and each unit dedicated to particular operation with better data link instruments.
It can be very easily mated by CVRDE or even OFB not a big deal but of course it will not look as secsy as the USA make of Stryker or BradleyFV...
 
Better than paying $10Bln for buying only 36 Rafale’s and paying $7Bln for only 22 Rafale M and 4 used Rafale’s, paying a whopping $17Bln to get only 62 jets, nothing can beat this idiocracy.
Rafale F3R for IAF costed 248 millions usd per unit of jet lifetime costs and Rafale-M is costing just 182+ millions usd per unit of jet...
 
NOT 5 but $50 millions for one Stryker MPATGM one with a main gun also..NOT 5 but $50 millions for one Stryker MPATGM one with a main gun also..
The audacity to be soo wrong with so much confidence. He Ram ji !!!

$50 million is a Fighter Jet price. Can buy 5 Abrams.
 
Kestrel costs 25 millions and Stryker is 45 millions in usd! So, no point chasing make in India of USA weapons; other than Javelin MPATGM's. ALSO, Rafale-M deal of just under 40,000 crores inr for 26 jets comes to around 182+ millions usd per jet of Rafale F3R base equivalent jet. Therefore, Rafale F4.2 would be around 40 millions costlier i.e., around 220 millions usd each jet for direct purchases from France - Total for 114 nos. jets at 25 Billions usd! For make in India, it might be just under 30 Billions usd for 114 nos F4.2 jets I believe so very strongly...
$50 million for an APC. Are you drunk or High ? Even US can't sustain 1000's of APC at Fighter jet price.

Your Rafale price mathematics of $183 million always seemed strange. Now it makes sense why it felt so wrong LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Please don't take my words as taunt, I just felt your numbers extremely odd.

And what's the mathematics behind F4.2 being $40 million expensive than F3R, also how you calculated Desi Production of MRFA will increase cost by $5 billion ? All speculation?
 
India does not require Stryker. High time to tell the US that old failed junk is not required.
 
Rafale F3R for IAF costed 248 millions usd per unit of jet lifetime costs and Rafale-M is costing just 182+ millions usd per unit of jet...
Impossible when they charge $60Mln just for the upgrade alone and that too useless.
 
When we have kestral and a Mahendra similar platform don't know why they want to import or screwdriver them (will mostly be done by a private company/electoral bonds). If they want to import for commission then atleast do it for platforms which we don't have options in india. Don't know why opposition don't raise such loots ,they r mostly interested in raising questions for genuine deals rather than such fraud deals. Which ever govt comes defense deals r a pot full of honey which no one can resist licking. Yet one more Pathetic atmanirbhar barath deal of this 56" if this goes on.
 

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