How IAF's Upgraded Su-30MKI with Virupaksha Radar and Astra MkIII 'Gandiva' Poised to Outmatch Pakistan's Potential J-35A Jets

How IAF's Upgraded Su-30MKI with Virupaksha Radar and Astra MkIII 'Gandiva' Poised to Outmatch Pakistan's Potential J-35A Jets


The Indian Air Force (IAF) is confident that its upcoming upgrades to the Sukhoi Su-30MKI fighter jet fleet will provide a decisive edge over potential acquisitions by the Pakistan Air Force (PAF), specifically the Chinese J-35A stealth aircraft, according to a recent statement by an IAF official.

The official suggested that while the J-35A incorporates design elements to reduce visibility to radar, it may not possess the true all-aspect stealth capabilities required to effectively challenge an Su-30MKI enhanced with the indigenous Virupaksha radar and Astra MkIII missile system.

The Su-30MKI, currently the backbone of India's fighter aircraft inventory and license-produced by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), is slated for a significant enhancement package dubbed the "Super Sukhoi" program.

A key feature of this upgrade is the introduction of the Virupaksha radar. This advanced Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar, developed domestically, utilizes Gallium Nitride (GaN) technology and boasts around 2,400 Transmit/Receive Modules (TRMs).

This radar system, when combined with the extended-range Astra MkIII air-to-air missile, is expected to present a formidable deterrent to potential adversaries.

Highlighting the Virupaksha's advanced features, the IAF official noted its capability to detect low-observable aircraft like the J-35A at significant distances, potentially between 300 and 400 kilometres for targets of comparable size.

"The Chinese J-35A might have stealth measures to cover its radar signature, but it’s not a stealth jet where a pilot will feel comfortable taking on the upgraded Sukhoi-30 once it’s ready," the official remarked.

The radar's sophisticated electronic scanning, long reach, and enhanced resistance to electronic countermeasures are expected to provide superior situational awareness, functioning almost like a smaller Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS).

This confidence is partly rooted in the Virupaksha radar's design, reportedly an enlarged version derived from the Defence Research and Development Organisation's (DRDO) Uttam AESA radar program.

Its GaN semiconductor technology allows for greater power efficiency and detection range compared to older radar types. This is anticipated to help counter stealth designs primarily optimized to evade higher-frequency radar bands (like X-band), where the J-35A's radar cross-section (RCS) reduction is likely most effective.

The official expressed belief that the Virupaksha will be capable of not just detecting but also reliably tracking the J-35A, thereby neutralizing a significant portion of its stealth advantage.

Working in tandem with the powerful radar will be the Astra MkIII missile, also known as "Gandiva." This indigenous beyond-visual-range (BVR) missile is propelled by a cutting-edge solid fuel ducted ramjet (SFDR) engine, enabling it to achieve hypersonic speeds (reportedly up to Mach 4.5) and strike targets at ranges exceeding 300-350 kilometres. This range potentially surpasses that of the Chinese PL-15 missile (estimated around 200+ km).

The Astra MkIII's extended "No Escape Zone" – the area where a target cannot kinetically evade the missile – is designed to ensure a high probability of interception against targets like the J-35A attempting BVR engagement.

The official drew a comparison with the PAF's current inventory, such as the J-10CE fighter. This aircraft is an export variant of China's J-10, equipped with what the official described as comparatively less capable systems, including the KLJ-10 AESA radar and the PL-15E missile, the export version reportedly limited to a 145 km range.

"The Chinese will not be sharing the best of their technology with Pakistan, just like they did with the J-10," the official commented, implying similar export limitations might apply to any potential J-35A deal.

The comprehensive "Super Sukhoi" initiative aims to elevate the Su-30MKI to a '4.5+ generation' standard. Beyond the Virupaksha radar, it includes integrating new infrared search and track (IRST) systems and a suite of Indian-developed armaments, including the Astra missile family.

The first phase of this upgrade is planned for 84 aircraft out of the IAF's fleet of roughly 260 Su-30MKIs, carrying an estimated cost of ₹65,000 crore (approximately USD 7.8 billion). Reports suggest the Su-30MKI's large airframe can accommodate the new Virupaksha radar system without requiring major structural alterations.

Ultimately, the IAF official conveyed strong assurance in the upgraded platform's capabilities, extending beyond just the technology. "The combination of Virupaksha and Astra MkIII will deter any Pakistani J-35A pilot from trying to test Chinese stealth claims," he stated, suggesting the potent technological pairing could create a significant psychological deterrent in any potential aerial confrontation.
 
We are now no where in air power now after 10.years of media hoo haa of God knows what , stealth no one will give us ,nor we can make it in next 20 years , so technically Pakistan will knock out the airforce like Egyptian by Israel anytime they feel like. We use British made airfields, tactics and logistics and Britain itself has now sunk as military power so what to do ???this last 10 years of media pom pom has been very bad as nothing real happened and airforce is down with jets and poor serviciblity as Su jets are 60% down on any good day .what has happened is only one Rafale deal with some 36 jets that will be chewed by chinese for starters in case of war . Too bad
 
Nice, given the advantage of Virupaksha GaN based AESA radar, it would be the ultimate choice to have Su-57 under MRFA, which too has 360 degree AESA radar coverage.

Plus, given the nose cone size of Su-57, it will be very handy, unlike Rafale, which has a smaller nose cone size and currently having fewer TRMs than Tejas MK1A Uttam AESA radar, which might again limit the use of GANDIVA missile, with mostly Su-30 MKI.

GANDIVA missile with SFDR tech and range over 300 km plus, and Virupaksha radar can be integrated into Su-57.

Secondly, Virupaksha GaN based AESA radar will come with a swash plate for better coverage than RBE-2 AESA radar based on GaAs in Rafale.
 
Absolutely. Coronastan already makes 2nd grade fighters which are overhyped and on top of that Bhikharistan will get even more degraded "export version" which are 3rd grade fighters. Rafale and SU30 are enough to tackle this 35A. Only concern will be J20 but with such huge size and large canards stealth capabilities are questionable too.
 
Upgrade Su-30MKI with more powerful engine allowing it to attain Mac-2.5 speed, reduce its RCS ,arm it with R-37M, Astra-II and Astra-III and complemented buy 126+ Su-57E tech based FGFA and F-15EX-II !
 
Nice, given the advantage of Virupaksha GaN based AESA radar, it would be the ultimate choice to have Su-57 under MRFA, which too has 360 degree AESA radar coverage.

Plus, given the nose cone size of Su-57, it will be very handy, unlike Rafale, which has a smaller nose cone size and currently having fewer TRMs than Tejas MK1A Uttam AESA radar, which might again limit the use of GANDIVA missile, with mostly Su-30 MKI.

GANDIVA missile with SFDR tech and range over 300 km plus, and Virupaksha radar can be integrated into Su-57.

Secondly, Virupaksha GaN based AESA radar will come with a swash plate for better coverage than RBE-2 AESA radar based on GaAs in Rafale.
Remember Gandiva missile will be mostly used for tankers and AWACS, and further Tejas can use network centre and ground-based radar/AWACS input to fire such classes of missiles too. So Gandiva could be used in almost every aircraft that is upgradable.
 
All well said but what is the timeline to complete this upgrade? In case of tejas they had an excuse of non availability of engine from GE. But here all the upgrades are Indigenised so why can not we speed up the process?
 
All well said but what is the timeline to complete this upgrade? In case of tejas they had an excuse of non availability of engine from GE. But here all the upgrades are Indigenised so why can not we speed up the process?
The first phase upgrade of Su-30MKI will be completed within 2028 as per government report.
 
Could somebody tell me why we are after US Engines for our AMCA when we have time tested Russian product's (Pl give the reply in simple form)
 
This is not true as the MKI still has a huge RCS of 20m² while the J-35 will likely have an RCS of 1m² or even less. So even with a superior AESA, the MKI will have a harder job detecting and then maintaining a lock on the J-35 for a successful BVR shot.
 
Could somebody tell me why we are after US Engines for our AMCA when we have time tested Russian product's (Pl give the reply in simple form)
IAF's stubbornness in getting a 'lesser maintenance prone' western engine. Ideally, if not RD33MK, because it still smokes and is not fuel efficient, at least MK2's one version could be built on the AL31F engine. It would be perfectly capable of taking on both China and Pakistan's J10s, J11s and J15s with a bigger GaN radar and Spectra-style self-defence suite.
 
The recent trend of the next generation actually remains very much the same as far as hardware is concerned and maneuverability, etc.
The only major difference is in its dogfighting capabilities by possessing high-end radars for increased and finer diameter stealth signatures and faster missiles having higher range with better accuracy and real-time maneuverability.
So, older aircraft, if attached with these new, then they are no less than recent generation aircraft.
This is what it seems.
A separation of concerns.
Hand over missile needs part to UAVs by enhancing better missiles version by version.
Radar, etc., attached to the actual aircraft and maintain an AWACS kind of setup.
So, no need to remove older aircraft.
A great strategy.
 
With the Super Sukhois and advanced BVRMs with cutting edge technologies like no escape features of Gandiva missiles and Virupaksha raddar it will tilt the balance slightly to us. With the GE engine in new Tejas and reaching performance near to fifth generation fighter jets, we will have an advantage over Chinese and Pakis. There is no meaning in always depending upon imports, have to attain self sufficiency in arms.
 
In a war scenario, Pakistani fighters will not be able to take off upon seeing the superior SUKHOI. Pakistan is unnecessarily spending on purchasing fighters and becoming poorer day by day.
 
Remember Gandiva missile will be mostly used for tankers and AWACS, and further Tejas can use network centre and ground-based radar/AWACS input to fire such classes of missiles too. So Gandiva could be used in almost every aircraft that is upgradable.
Gandiva will be used against fighter jets too. It is not a bulky missile like the R-37, which is specifically built for such a role.

Gandiva will be an agile missile, and with its range, it can easily give a no-escape zone of 120 to 150 km against fighter jets too, reportedly better than Meteor.
 
Around $92 million per aircraft is the upgrade cost for Super Sukhoi. Does this Rs 65,000 crore for 84 aircraft upgrade cost include Virupaksha GaN AESA and Gandiva stores? It seems it does. Shouldn't we upgrade more Sukhois?
 
An article regarding Virupaksha and Astra Mk 3, both based on my technologies, is true, but AWACS is wrong. Say it is not needed. Actually, AWACS will become a liability as AWACS will be having 2D radars instead of 4D/5D or, I can say, 6.5D Virupaksha radar. It will see stealth planes like a Tata 407 truck with the back flap down, horizontal size.
 
Forget AWACS. It's the weak link. We'll have to think of some distributed drone-based AWACS.

Whenever a stealth jet opens its bay door, its location will be revealed. Stealth jets were originally conceived for stealth bombing missions. I guess the fanboys have gone too far with "I see you before you see me" bull. So what does it matter? The moment you release your missile, your location is compromised. A long-range BVR with terminal IRST can finish the job. I.e., a stealth jet is just equivalent to a non-stealth jet. It's just capturing a bishop while losing your knight.
 
Remember Gandiva missile will be mostly used for tankers and AWACS, and further Tejas can use network centre and ground-based radar/AWACS input to fire such classes of missiles too. So Gandiva could be used in almost every aircraft that is upgradable.
from google:

The missile's launch speed ranges from 0.8 to 2.2 Mach, with the capability to hit targets at a speed of 2.0 to 3.6 Mach. One of its most advanced features is its ability to engage highly maneuverable fighter aircraft, with an angle of attack of up to 20 degrees.
 
Gandiva will be used against fighter jets too. It is not a bulky missile like the R-37, which is specifically built for such a role.

Gandiva will be an agile missile, and with its range, it can easily give a no-escape zone of 120 to 150 km against fighter jets too, reportedly better than Meteor.
Meteors' no escape zone is just 80. Gandiva will be quite effective against anything.
 
Sukhoi upgrade is not just Radar and Missile .Also need to upgrade Engine to 177S and Oxygen system to OBOGS.
 
Gandiva will be used against fighter jets too. It is not a bulky missile like the R-37, which is specifically built for such a role.

Gandiva will be an agile missile, and with its range, it can easily give a no-escape zone of 120 to 150 km against fighter jets too, reportedly better than Meteor.
Yes, with its speed and range it probably could do 150 km, but not at full range as there is a great difference in distance and so unless a fighter aircraft flies a predictable slow pattern there are less chances of hitting as probably outrunning the missile becomes more probable or missing altogether.
 
Finally some common sense seems to have come to the rescue of nay sayers!!! To counter the Chinese 35, all that we need was the required kind of missiles and detectors. India has enough of this!! Anyway Su57 is out of question!!
 

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