India Set to Negotiate for 110 More Rafale Jets via Direct G2G Deal, Bypassing Stalled MRFA Tender Complexities for Faster Squadron Fillup

India Set to Negotiate for 110 More Rafale Jets via Direct G2G Deal, Bypassing Stalled MRFA Tender Complexities for Faster Squadron Fillup


India is reportedly preparing to enter negotiations later this year for a significant purchase of 110 additional Rafale fighter jets directly from the French government.

According to reports from The Print, this potential multi-billion-dollar government-to-government (G2G) agreement aims to rapidly bolster the Indian Air Force (IAF), which currently faces a shortage of fighter squadrons.

This move signifies a shift away from the stalled Multi-Role Fighter Aircraft (MRFA) procurement process. The MRFA tender, initiated in 2018 with a Request for Information (RFI) for 114 jets, has encountered significant delays. Complex requirements regarding the transfer of technology (ToT) and competing interests among aircraft manufacturers have hampered progress.

An IAF official highlighted earlier in 2024 that a direct G2G deal offers a more efficient path, bypassing these tendering complexities. This approach allows India to leverage the existing infrastructure, training protocols, and maintenance facilities established for the 36 Rafales already inducted into the IAF, as well as the 26 Rafale Marine jets recently approved for the Indian Navy. The CCS cleared the naval deal on April 8, 2025, for approximately ₹63,000 crore, equipping India's aircraft carrier, INS Vikrant.

A significant aspect of the proposed deal involves French aerospace major Dassault Aviation potentially taking full ownership of Dassault Reliance Aerospace Limited (DRAL). This facility, located in Nagpur's MIHAN Special Economic Zone, is currently a joint venture established in 2016 with Reliance Aerostructure Limited (a part of Reliance Defence Limited).

DRAL has been manufacturing components like fuselage sections and wings for Rafale jets and parts for the Falcon business jet line, fulfilling Dassault's offset obligations from the initial 2016 Rafale purchase. Dassault has reportedly sought full control over the Nagpur facility since at least 2022 to streamline operations.

Dassault's preference for complete control reportedly stems from experiences during earlier negotiations (MRCA talks, 2013-14) where disagreements arose over quality assurance for jets proposed to be manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL). Dassault argued then, and reiterates now according to 2024 reports, that full ownership of the production facility is necessary to guarantee the quality standards required for the advanced fighter jets, potentially positioning the Indian facility for future export orders.

While Dassault has claimed it could produce two Rafales per month at DRAL, delivering 110 jets in five years, some analysts remain skeptical given Dassault's own recent production output in France (13 jets produced in 2023 against a target of 15).

Despite seeking full ownership of DRAL, Dassault Aviation has reportedly committed to sourcing the majority of the aircraft's components from Indian suppliers, aligning with the government's "Make in India" initiative.

The original 2016 deal mandated significant reinvestment (50% offset, roughly €4 billion) into India's defence sector, leading to partnerships with firms like L&T, Mahindra Group, Kalyani Group, and Godrej & Boyce for various components, alongside joint ventures like Snecma HAL Aerospace Ltd for engine parts. The new deal is expected to further develop this indigenous defence manufacturing ecosystem, with DRAL acting as a central assembly and sourcing hub.

However, concerns persist within the Indian Ministry of Defence (MoD), as reported in August 2024. Officials have expressed doubts about achieving the potentially mandated 70-75% indigenous content level, fearing DRAL might primarily function as an assembly unit using kits imported from France, limiting genuine technology transfer.

Ensuring local sourcing for the Rafale, an aircraft comprising over 40,000 components, presents a considerable challenge. Critics also worry that full foreign ownership of the assembly facility could concentrate technology transfer benefits within Dassault and its chosen private partners, potentially limiting the role of state-owned enterprises like HAL.

If finalized, the acquisition of 110 additional Rafales would bring India's total fleet to 172 (including the existing 36 IAF and 26 Navy jets). This would position India as one of the largest operators of the Rafale globally, enhancing its air defence and deterrence capabilities significantly in a region where neighbours like China operate advanced fighters like the J-20 and Pakistan may acquire systems like the J-35.
 
This would have been the best deal if it was done four or five years ago. At that time IAF and MOD were sleeping and dreaming of MRFA which was never possible. Now suddenly they realize the urgency and going back. I think it would be a worst decision to spend money on Rafale without TOT. The better would be to order 100 nos of Super Sukhoi 30 MKI with that money.
 
No need to buy Rafale any further unless they give the hot section tot for M88.

Go for Su-57. Russians want money. They will give you the hot section of the engine.
 
This news seems to be dodgy and fake. If India was definitely going to buy 114 Rafale jets in a G2G deal then they wouldn’t have made a separate deal for 26 naval jets for around 60,000 crore. India would have got a cheaper and better deal if they bought all of the 114+26=140 jets together in one deal and within that deal include any technology, equipment or weapon changes that we wanted.

Another reason why it’s fake news is because the government would end up paying a higher price and more expensive deal if they didn’t allow an open tender route which would have got them the cheapest price.

Also the MRFA tender is going to be very expensive and cost over $25 billion even if they manufacture the jet in India. Dassault won’t manufacture 100% of the jet in India or transfer any critical technology to us or manufacture it using Indian raw materials.

It’s much better to focus on manufacturing the Tejas MK1A very quickly and increase the production line and quantity that we can manufacture per year. Also we need to quickly manufacture several of the Tejas MK2 and AMCA prototype, run all of the tests properly and certify the technology and capabilities. It will be easier and quicker to manufacture and certify the Tejas MK2 jets before the AMCA but those are the main jets we need to focus our time, effort and money.
 
I think making SU-57 in India is more profitable. It will give India a 5th-gen capability, and India can add its own weapons and radars as well. France will never agree to Indian weapons in Rafale, but the US is the biggest problem for defence deals with Russia right now. Tariff is also there, but take the decision faster. IAF is literally on a ventilator. India cannot fight with Pakistan Air Force right now, forget China. India has to spend 30-40 billion dollars on the Air Force itself to counter a 2-front attack. 2025 is the make-or-break year for IAF. If Gov't doesn't take any decision in 2025, then IAF will collapse. It will be all over.
 
If you consider unit cost + weapon package + operation cost for 8000 hours, then 5th Gen costs triple than 4.5 Gen.
 
It makes Dassault rich and makes India poor, both economically and technologically, with perpetual dependence on France for another five decades: the entire life cycle of Rafale.
 
Rubbish! They could build Mk3 with two Kaveri engines, and the same would be delivered in a similar timeframe as well. Also, saying 4.5 gen would match the 5th or 6th gen of hostile neighbors is utter foolishness. Better to go for SU-57 or F-35 if available.
 
Tomorrow's wars won't be won by yesterday's weapons. Assembling costly 4th gen jets by Dassault in India makes no sense. Maybe a small number of Rafales and some 5th gen jets will make more sense. Bargain tech for hot core engines. Dassault doesn't even share tech for MRO. If Dassault itself will assemble in India, what tech would we gain? Even for midlife upgrades and weapons integration we will have to shell out huge money.
 
Wow, after so many years of dragging their feet, showing no interest in the pursuance of 114 MRFA, now there seems to be some news. But still sceptical about how reliable and how much truth is in this news, or as usual, it is just a teaser, I am not sure. Still, the negotiations will begin later this year. I hope very much the negotiations will commence later this year, and I am waiting for that to happen anxiously. If the GoI is really serious about acquiring MRFA, it should insist Dassault set up local assembly lines. If Dassault refuses to come to terms with GoI, then we should look elsewhere. Why does it have to be a French fighter as the favourite all the time?
 
No more Rafal.
Tejas Mk1 and Mk2 are good enough.
Think of 5th generation stealth fighter Su57 or Su75 with Al51 stealth engine.
 
With the same cost you get nearly 300 Tejas MK2, Which is almost equal to Rafael. We must max for 36 more for immediate requirements and then concentrate on MK2.
 
Waste deal. We should go for Su-57. We need to ensure we have full command over the entire thing including the engine. Even if we have to pay a little extra, then go for it. Su-57 is a new design and Rafale is old. This deal doesn't make any sense. In the worst case, combine the navy and air force deals together.
 
Original MRFA deal was for 126 aircrafts if which we purchased only 36. So now we should order only 90 Rafales and put that additional money in indigenous programs like Tejas MK2 and AMCA.Alternatively we should also evaluate SU57 production so that there is some competition for Dassault as they will put exorbitant price on 110 aircrafts which will be very costly for the country .If 26 aircraft cost 63000 cr then 110 will cost more than 250000 cr which is just too much for a country which is trying to build indigenous capabilities and needs more money to do that.
 
Get what's on shelf now , later some TOT whatever can happen . Europe is on fire , and we are useless in jet tech so lap up what's there there, rest will a question mark if Russia squares off with these two last Europen military powers, Britain and France.
 
By delinking DRAL won't our self confidence in indigenous progress be affected. It will be like made in India - by- France.
 
I think lAF as well all indian will be happy that india choose Rafael. It is best aircrafts it is best offensive weapon again chinese as well as PAF. Both of them dont have any answer of Rafael. Chinese 5 generation lack shealth capability. All world know that.
 
Finally, after 20 years, they have decided to do what was a stalemate 10 years ago too!

They didn't want HAL to take over production with Dassault owning the accountability, and they didn't agree to it to the end.

Despite the emergency order for 36 Rafale F3 and now 26 more Rafale M, we will need the 114 MRFA jets. The lobbies and the OEM have ensured local manufacturing will be only through them and not an Indo-French joint venture or an Indian-owned entity.

The HAL Tejas Mk1A fiasco has only vindicated that stand and proved that the approach would not have worked, or at least Dassault wouldn't have agreed to or let it work.

We cannot rely on America for F-35 and Russia with Su-57 as they will have vested interests, as we couldn't trust them for ToT for engines as in F404/F414 and RDlD-33 and AL-31F, and their allies like Turkey and China respectively are not to be trusted too.

But Rafale F4 is also not a 5th gen jet, but then without Tejas Mk1A, Mk2, TEDBF, or AMCA yet in the IAF or in production, that is the only safe bet the IAF trusts and prefers for reasons known and unknown too.
 
Only buy 114 Rafale if we have a 110kN AMCA engine deal alongside it. Otherwise, no point. Just get 114 Su-57 and negotiate for an AL-51 derivative engine for AMCA. And if the Air Force isn’t convinced of the Su-57, then get 36 Rafales (vanilla, only Indian weapon integration) and 54 F-35. No matter what the cost, 3 squadrons of F-35 will keep China away for long enough till we get our AMCA, and 36 + 54 is 90 jets instead of 114. The 24 jets' price saved should go into the maintenance and operations of an F-35.
 
India has two best 5th-generation fighter choices.

110 Su-57 will provide full TOT with the latest engine and manufacturing at HAL. Russia needs urgent money, so it will provide TOT with hypersonic missiles with SU-57.

110 F-35 with local assembly in India. It has the latest US electronics. Another advantage is that the US will offer its 6th-generation fighters, F-47 and B-21 Bombers, in the future. Because by 2030, our neighboring country will have 6th-generation fighters.
 
India is caught between the devil and the DEVIL and DEEP BLUE Sea... Rafale is 4.5 gen with 6th gen Price + no GaN radar + no Indian weapon/missile as its costly + no engine TOT + no TOT

5th Gen F35 - will not be given by US. no integration with Indian-russian fighters possible

Su 57 its a 5th gen with 4.5 gen capabilities

Eurofighter and others are logistical nightmare

The choice is very difficult... my choice is 1) 36# Su 57 with idzeliye engine & all Indian missiles/radar/mission computer/ejection seat and 2) 54 Rafale + engine testing + engine consultancy + TOT for parts supply chain in India & 3) Rolls Royce engine for AMCA 4) Remaining LCA Mk2 5) AMCA with 4th gen capabilities
 
French did not discharge their 50% obligation in the 2016 deal. They won't do it now either.

If we have to sink billions of dollars down the drain, then the common sense one is to either join GCAP or FCAS.

As per recent OSINT handles, Chinese are discussing arming Pakis with 6th gen fighters, post 2030. Then it is better we sink money down that path rather than paying billions of dollars now.

And make no mistake, upgrade path for Rafales will cost an arm and a leg, because we will not have access to even production tech of Rafale, leave alone access to source code. French are notoriously greedy when it comes to business deals and we cannot sink billions of dollars just like that.
 
The list of components for make in India must be defined in the contract to ensure it reaches 75-80%. No more trust me bro by suppliers.
 

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