Indian Acquisition of F-35 or Su-57 Would Prove Catastrophic for Air Force, India's 5th Gen Future Lies in AMCA Jet, Asserts Senior Expert

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A leading defence analyst has cast serious doubt on the potential acquisition of either the American F-35 or the Russian Su-57 fighter jets by the Indian Air Force (IAF).

Abhijit Iyer-Mitra, a senior fellow at the Institute of Peace and Conflict Studies (IPCS), argues that procuring either aircraft would be a detrimental move for India's air power. Instead, he strongly advocates for prioritizing the indigenous Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) program.

Mitra highlights significant issues with both the F-35 and Su-57 in the context of India's defence needs.

He points to India's previous withdrawal from the Su-57 program, citing concerns about the aircraft's design and capabilities. He notes that even India's Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas, a fourth-generation fighter, boasts superior build quality compared to the Su-57.

A critical flaw of the Su-57, according to Mitra, is its compromised stealth capabilities due to exposed engines, making it vulnerable to enemy radar. This contradicts the fundamental stealth requirements of a fifth-generation fighter, which typically employ internal engine placement and radar-absorbent materials to minimize their radar signature.

Regarding the F-35, Mitra emphasizes the challenges of integrating this aircraft into the IAF's diverse fleet, which includes a mix of Russian, French, and indigenous aircraft.

The F-35 is designed to operate within a NATO framework, relying heavily on interoperability with American air assets and data networks. This presents a significant hurdle for the IAF, as its existing systems are largely incompatible with NATO standards. This incompatibility would severely limit the F-35's effectiveness, as its strengths lie in a highly integrated, data-centric combat environment that the IAF currently lacks.

Mitra's central argument is that India should focus on its domestically developed AMCA program. By investing in indigenous development, India can reduce its reliance on foreign suppliers and achieve greater self-reliance in defence manufacturing. This approach also allows India to tailor the AMCA to its specific operational requirements, unlike foreign platforms that often come with geopolitical constraints and integration challenges.

To ensure the success of the AMCA program, Mitra calls for increased accountability within India's Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and suggests bringing the program under the direct supervision of the Prime Minister's Office (PMO). This would provide high-level political and administrative support, streamlining decision-making and resource allocation to accelerate the AMCA's development.

Mitra's perspective highlights a crucial debate within India's defence community: balancing immediate operational needs with the long-term goal of strategic autonomy. While foreign fighters like the F-35 and Su-57 offer proven capabilities, they come with significant costs, both financially and in terms of dependence on foreign nations. The AMCA, on the other hand, represents a customized solution, albeit one that demands substantial investment in time, technology, and resources.
 
AMCA will/may come in the future. Right now, for the present, we have to go for F-35 or F-22.
 
AMCA will be inducted only in 2035, by the time induct MRFA or F-35/S-57, it's almost a decade's duration & Bharat needs a fighter jet which is highly capable.
 
F35 or Su57 will only compliment AMCA. There is no conflict of interest between these two. AMCA is around 1 decade away while we need 5th gen today and we can get them from Russia or US before 2030. we won't like when all 3 hostile neighbours of India would be operating gen5 fighters when we still stuck with only few squadrons of 4.5 gen. AMCA would likely be a more advanced jet than lightning or felon
 
The Su-57 is a non-starter because it is lacking in stealth and that cannot be corrected. Who wants a stealth fighter that is not stealthy! Which is why Russia can't find any takers. In addition I don't see the AMCA arriving until 2040 and even that is optimistic. Really, the only viable option that I see is the F-35 and/or KF-21.
 
Even if India buys either of the two, it will definitely be a problem... India should first avoid using too many types of aircraft...

India bought Rafale aircraft, it was a mistake... India is now confused whether to buy fifth-generation aircraft or fourth-generation aircraft after buying Rafale aircraft... India is now thinking that investing in fourth-generation aircraft again due to China's fifth and sixth-generation aircraft would be a wrong decision... Moreover, since it has already bought Rafale aircraft, it is in a situation where it cannot buy replacement aircraft. Even if it buys replacement aircraft, it requires separate maintenance and separate investment... Even if it buys Rafale aircraft again, it can only conduct defensive attacks. It cannot go into another country and attack with Rafale.

Fourth generation aircraft are of no use to India anymore. The current Indian aircraft can only be used to monitor Indian airspace and intercept enemy aircraft entering Indian airspace...

India should purchase more aircraft like Tejas, AMCA, TEDEF that are currently being developed... This is good for India's future... India should spend money without counting on developing aircraft like Tejas, AMCA, TEDEF and should directly or indirectly employ retired skilled personnel who have worked in aircraft production and research in other countries. Similarly, robotic processes should be used in developing aircraft.
 
IAF will not get either su-57 or f-35 even if they want to. Lets be real

the U.S. are already giving so much trouble with providing F-404 engines for the light Tejas aircraft. What makes you think they would provide 4-5 squadrons of f-35?

Russia can't even produce enough su-57 for their own air force. There is no chance they would sell 36 Su-57 to the IAF in the next 3 years (2028) as many are claiming.
 
AMCA should be under PMO like nuclear submarine building.This will expose our scientist to check the metal in them to deliver
 
How will the purchase of F-35 or SU-57 affect our AMCA program. We are anyways planning to purchase 114 jets and AMCA is expected to be inducted in late 2030's, with significant numbers being available after another 5-10 years depending om production numbers. Also all jets being developed by us have foreign engine and few other foreign components. Buying F-35 or SU-57 will provide us with much needed superiority over PAF and comparable or better capability over the Chinese air force.
 
Even if India buys either of the two, it will definitely be a problem... India should first avoid using too many types of aircraft...

India bought Rafale aircraft, it was a mistake... India is now confused whether to buy fifth-generation aircraft or fourth-generation aircraft after buying Rafale aircraft... India is now thinking that investing in fourth-generation aircraft again due to China's fifth and sixth-generation aircraft would be a wrong decision... Moreover, since it has already bought Rafale aircraft, it is in a situation where it cannot buy replacement aircraft. Even if it buys replacement aircraft, it requires separate maintenance and separate investment... Even if it buys Rafale aircraft again, it can only conduct defensive attacks. It cannot go into another country and attack with Rafale.

Fourth generation aircraft are of no use to India anymore. The current Indian aircraft can only be used to monitor Indian airspace and intercept enemy aircraft entering Indian airspace...

India should purchase more aircraft like Tejas, AMCA, TEDEF that are currently being developed... This is good for India's future... India should spend money without counting on developing aircraft like Tejas, AMCA, TEDEF and should directly or indirectly employ retired skilled personnel who have worked in aircraft production and research in other countries. Similarly, robotic processes should be used in developing aircraft.
I think India really has two options. Either buying F-35s off-shelf or considering the KF-21. The South Korean Stealth Fighter is nearly identical to the Indian AMCA and both even use the same F414s! It is also in production now. What India could do is buy say 24-36 twin seat KF-21s directly from South Korea today. These would arrive in the next few years. Which India could use for Air Defense and as transitional stealth fighters. These would be followed by Indian built KF-21EX (IF-21EX?) post 2030. The beauty here is the KF-21s would be made in India (MRFA) and have "high" Indian content. (Uttam AESA Radar, F414s, Astra Missiles, etc.) Do this while India still pursues the AMCA. If, they arrive with no major problems. You can just switch over production. If, instead they are delays or problems. You can still keep making KF-21s. (or whatever you call it)
 
I would add most people ignore the fact it isn't about just buying some F-35s or KF-21s to hold over the IAF. Remember, the IAF is down to 31 Fighter Squadrons but needs 42! Plus, you're not going to win the day with 3- Stealthy 5th Generation Squadrons and 28- 4th Generation Squadrons either......besides stealth fighters India also needs "numbers". (and she is waaay behind)
 
Honestly, a mix of F-35s and KF-21s is likely the best option. Until we see how the AMCA matures.....Yet, India would have to dig deep in her pockets!
 
Even if PMO take briefings every day on AMCA, HAL DRDO GTRE and other associated organizations never able to deliver anything for next 30 to 40 years.
 
Continue to ridicule the advanced weaponry and allow the DRDO officials a span of 20 to 30 years to create a fifth-generation fighter jet. When another incident similar to February 26-27 occurs, where the 5th gen jets from Pakistan Air Force targets Indian Air Force and Army assets, these analysts will be seen holding remnants of Pakistani missiles aloft, performing for the media with statements like, "Look here... Pakistan has launched this missile at us."
 
Abhijit Iyer Mitra is someone i follow quite a bit but he is wrong on this one.

First off, DRDO or HAL doesn't have the first clue what differentiates 4th gen from 5th gen. Stealth is not just coating, its many many many things all put together. Sensor Fusion is also a key aspect.

Our sensors and radars are not up to 5th gen standards. Typically we buy the tech from Israel but even Israel doesn't have as good of a radar like F-35. F-35's IRST is just at whole another level that most people wouldn't even be able to comprehend. F-35's IRST is soo secretive even Britain is not allowed to switch them on because of outside espionage. Developing all this will take years and lots of money.

Our quality manufacturing is not quite up to standards when it comes to 5th gen. Bringing that up will require everyone to step up their game, aka more money and time required.

Lockheed Martin copied SAAB's gripen in terms of ease of implementing software upgrades to the aircraft and basic structure of open ended code. India might be decent at that if they know what they are doing.

Engine, I am not even get into since its far off India's capabilities.

With all this in mind, F-35 is a no brainer choice. It fills the gap that we desperately need now and getting F-35 would make India much much more lethal and a serious player in south east Asia.
 
Keep dreaming 😊... USA will never offer f35 to india, because we are operating s400 air defence.. and we are close to russia.
It's like handing over there top fighter which is backbone of many Nato countries to an ally of Russia.
Forget f-35.
 
F35 or Su57 will only compliment AMCA. There is no conflict of interest between these two. AMCA is around 1 decade away while we need 5th gen today and we can get them from Russia or US before 2030. we won't like when all 3 hostile neighbours of India would be operating gen5 fighters when we still stuck with only few squadrons of 4.5 gen. AMCA would likely be a more advanced jet than lightning or felon
Four if not five hostile neighbours. Maldives is waiting for the time to backstab again. While Sri Lanka is very friendly with pakistan & has frictions with Bharat with no reason.
 
F-35 is the world's costliest paper weight. This is what the USAF thinks of F-35. SU- 57E is a far wiser choice and it put up a superb performance in China's Air show. And it can still be customised.
And India can go for a ToT. And set up a production line. And we can turn this partnership to develop a civilian aviation industry in India. And pay for in Rupees. And strengthen the BRICS Group. And think of other co operation too.

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You dont need Mitra or anyone to say that India should focus only on AMCA and forget MRFA tender. It is just common sense!!! Any inadequacies in air power in the meanwhile should be handled with missiles capability.
 

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