India's Nuclear Triad Faces Transition As Mirage 2000's Successor Sought

[Boomeranger]

But Rafale can’t escape quickly as it is the slowest of all modern 4.5 gen jets available today, It doesn’t have to escape the blast radius if it is a Kamikaze drone, for an example Rustom.

Rafale too slow speed jet, are u schizophrenic alzheimer's dementia or what??

 

[Boomeranger]

We need $30Bln.

110 Billions usd's for 400 nos. imported minus 5th gen. AND, 5th gen, fighter jets for IAF soon!

 

[PKPR]

Rafale too slow speed jet, are u schizophrenic alzheimer's dementia or what??

SNECMA M88 is the old and slowest among all 4.5 gen jets available today, if you talk about PWR and all that, Typhoon is the best and even F/A-18.

 

[Anant]

But Rafale can’t escape quickly as it is the slowest of all modern 4.5 gen jets available today, It doesn’t have to escape the blast radius if it is a Kamikaze drone, for an example Rustom.

And yet the French use it to carry their airborne nuclear weapons? They would have worked that out, wouldn't they? Alternatively, you are mistaken.

 

[Pink Panther]

And yet the French use it to carry their airborne nuclear weapons? They would have worked that out, wouldn't they? Alternatively, you are mistaken.

I don’t think French use Rafale for that role.

All Rafale does is carry Nuke tipped Missiles and fires it from Air from far away, Can't Tejas do that, No gravity bombs any more.

 

[Pink Panther]

110 Billions usd's for 400 nos. imported minus 5th gen. AND, 5th gen, fighter jets for IAF soon!

😇😇😇?

 

[Sandeep]

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

That’s not what it means to be nuclear capable. When you launch a nuclear bomb, there are 2 important things.

One, the plane should be fast enough to leave the explosion zone quickly. That is possible with most supersonic planes today.

But the even more important criteria is shielding of the plane’s electronics. Nukes create a huge EMP. So
The plane’s electronics have to be hardened or shielded. That’s why not all planes can deliver nukes. We have to specially modernize them. It’s not even cheap either.

Not really because you can use a timer to give you more time to leave the area. Also hardening our own jets is something that we can do indigenously.

 

[Akshat]

Not really because you can use a timer to give you more time to leave the area. Also hardening our own jets is something that we can do indigenously.

No we can’t. We can’t modify the electronics of a foreign jet.

As for timer, you can use a timer but there is a limit to the height from which a bomb can be launched and how long it will take to reach the designated height. If your plane can’t leave the area within that time limit, then no timer can save you.

 

[Indian1]

How much stealthy AMCA will be remains to be seen. When only imaginary planes are flying, the makers can make big claims. But as the plane is actually made the big claims will disappear. High precision manufacturing processes which are not found in India are needed to make stealthy airframes.

 

[Sandeep]

No we can’t. We can’t modify the electronics of a foreign jet.

As for timer, you can use a timer but there is a limit to the height from which a bomb can be launched and how long it will take to reach the designated height. If your plane can’t leave the area within that time limit, then no timer can save you.

Well if you’re not able to modify the jet to survive a blast then timer is your only and next best option.

Also picture this scenario. If India has to use nuclear weapons then that means it’s in deep trouble and under threat. So it’s desperate to launch a strike by jet and they only have a jet and a gravity drop bomb. Do you think India won’t be prepared to sacrifice that one jet and man to launch a strike even if it’s not timed? They would definitely take that risk.

 

[Akshat]

Well if you’re not able to modify the jet to survive a blast then timer is your only and next best option.

Also picture this scenario. If India has to use nuclear weapons then that means it’s in deep trouble and under threat. So it’s desperate to launch a strike by jet and they only have a jet and a gravity drop bomb. Do you think India won’t be prepared to sacrifice that one jet and man to launch a strike even if it’s not timed? They would definitely take that risk.

Timer doesn’t work as the diameter is too large.

During peace time you don’t prepare assuming losing a plane. So you have to buy planes.

And I am not here to argue. You made a false statement regarding nuclear capable planes. That’s what I am correcting. Like your claims for Kaveri certification.

 

[vamkris]

Are Super Sukhoi,Tejas mk1A and Tejas mk2 not eligible for being nuclear capable?why don't we use GE 414 for tejasmk1 A and make it nuclear capable?
1.super sukhoi
2.Tejasmk1A
3. Rafael 4/F15EX Eagle/F21(Semi Stealth)
4.Tejas mk2
5.Amca1
6 Amca2
Make all above nuclear capable and electronic warfare and semi stealth or stealth

 

[Sandeep]

Timer doesn’t work as the diameter is too large.

During peace time you don’t prepare assuming losing a plane. So you have to buy planes.

And I am not here to argue. You made a false statement regarding nuclear capable planes. That’s what I am correcting. Like your claims for Kaveri certification.

A timer version can be used such a barometric and radar fuzes which gives enough time for the pilot to leave the area.

During peacetime you prepare but you can’t account for emergency. What if those nuclear planes get destroyed then you have no choice. So it’s necessary to have multiple contingencies.

Also I didn’t make a false statement I made the correct one because the engine passed high altitude test in Russia. That’s been confirmed by many independent sources and links on the media. Godrej is even making some of the engines for further use and testing. They wouldn’t be manufacturing something that doesn’t work.

 

[Crusader 2024]

Best option likely available to India is flat out the F-35A. Which is already set up for the Nuclear Strike Role. Its stealth makes in near impossible to defeat. Right now, the US and the Netherlands use it in that role and Germany will join it in a couple of years. Only thing better is a B-2 or B-21 Stealth Bomber and neither are options or at least not at the moment.