Rolls-Royce Proposes Entirely New 110kN Engine Tailored for India's AMCA with Full IPR, Distinct from Its Own 6th-Gen GCAP

Rolls-Royce Proposes Entirely New 110kN Engine Tailored for India's AMCA with Full IPR, Distinct from Its Own 6th-Gen GCAP


In a significant development for India's military aviation future, aerospace giant Rolls-Royce has confirmed its offer to co-develop a new jet engine for the nation's upcoming Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA).

Company officials stated that the proposed 110 kilonewton (kN) thrust engine would be a completely original design, specifically created for India's requirements and separate from the engine Rolls-Royce is developing for its own contributions to sixth-generation fighter programs like the Global Combat Air Programme (GCAP).

Crucially, Rolls-Royce emphasised that India would retain full Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) for this bespoke engine. While some advanced technologies might be shared, the fundamental design and thrust capacity will differ considerably from Rolls-Royce's other next-generation projects.

The AMCA represents India's ambitious step into the 5.5-generation stealth fighter category, spearheaded by the DRDO and the ADA. This advanced aircraft requires a sophisticated propulsion system capable of sustained supersonic flight without afterburners (supercruise), features optimized for stealth, and superior agility.

Rolls-Royce's proposal for a 110kN engine directly addresses these needs. By offering an engine designed "from scratch," rather than adapting an existing model, the company aims to provide a powerplant perfectly matched to the AMCA's specific operational and strategic profile. Mastering jet engine technology is seen as a critical step for any nation aspiring to advanced aerospace capabilities.

Officials highlighted that the engine's power specifications – 110kN of "wet" thrust (with afterburner) and potential for growth to 120-130kN – are distinct from the engine being developed for the GCAP initiative involving the UK, Italy, and Japan.

GCAP sixth-generation engine is expected to feature adaptive cycle technology, allowing variable performance for different flight stages, and cater to future needs like powering energy-intensive systems. In contrast, the engine proposed for India's AMCA focuses on delivering a robust balance of power, dependability, and adaptability suitable for a 5.5-generation fighter, while supporting India's long-term technological goals in aerospace.

A major highlight of the Rolls-Royce offer is the promise of complete IPR transfer to India. This assurance means India would fully own the engine's design blueprints, manufacturing techniques, and the rights to undertake future modifications and upgrades independently. This aligns strongly with India's 'Atmanirbhar Bharat' initiative, aiming to reduce dependency on foreign defence technology.

Unlike previous collaborations where intellectual property often remained with the overseas partner, this proposed arrangement would empower India's Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE) and local industries to control, enhance, or potentially export the engine technology without external permissions.

This ownership promise reportedly includes sharing not just the manufacturing methods ("know-how") but also the underlying engineering principles ("know-why"). Equipping Indian engineers with this deeper understanding is vital for fostering genuine indigenous innovation.

Such comprehensive technology transfer could significantly boost India's aerospace sector, potentially benefiting other indigenous projects like the Tejas Mk2 fighter, the planned Twin Engine Deck-Based Fighter (TEDBF) for aircraft carriers, and perhaps even a future Indian sixth-generation aircraft program.

While stressing the unique nature of the proposed AMCA engine, Rolls-Royce indicated that select cutting-edge technologies being researched for sixth-generation platforms could be incorporated.

This might involve advanced heat-resistant materials, enhanced fuel efficiency measures, or specialized nozzle designs to minimize heat signatures, thereby improving stealth and overall performance.

However, these would be specific features adapted for the AMCA, not the full, complex architecture of a sixth-generation adaptive cycle engine. An official clearly stated, "Technically and in thrust parameters, they are totally different beasts."

The proposed engine is expected to generate around 75kN of "dry" thrust (without afterburner), enabling the crucial supercruise capability expected of modern fighters. A modular construction, potentially drawing from Rolls-Royce's advanced research, could also simplify maintenance and future upgrades, helping keep the AMCA fleet effective over its decades-long service life.

This contrasts with true sixth-generation engines, which are anticipated to exceed 130kN thrust and incorporate variable cycle technology to manage a wider range of operational demands, including support for unmanned companion aircraft and advanced weapon systems.

Rolls-Royce's proposal enters a competitive field, with France's Safran and America's General Electric (GE) also vying to partner with India for the AMCA engine.

Safran is offering an engine derived from its Rafale fighter's M88 engine family with full technology transfer, while GE has proposed an enhanced version of its widely used F414 engine.

Rolls-Royce seeks to distinguish its bid by offering a purpose-built design combined with complete intellectual property ownership, appealing directly to India's strategic objectives of technological independence and flexibility.

The AMCA project aims for a first flight around 2029-2030, with squadron service planned by 2035. Initial prototypes and the first production batch (Mk1) are slated to fly using imported GE F414 engines (rated at 98kN).

The more powerful, co-developed 110kN engine is intended for the subsequent AMCA Mk2 variant. This progression aligns with DRDO Chairman Dr. Samir V. Kamat's stated goal of developing a propulsion system that can serve the AMCA effectively and potentially evolve to power future Indian fighter aircraft, ensuring India is not reliant on foreign suppliers for critical defence technologies in the long run.
 
When an offer is too good to be true, probably it is. You never know when the Uncle Trump will ask GE to prioritise F-47 or GCAP deliveries or even put an embargo/sanction favouring MAGA program, when the last piece of technology is pending. India would have locked in the deal and no option to backout once time and money has been spent.

French Safran is govt backed and is completely free from political sanctions. It will also allow Indian GTRE technology to mature for Mk2.
 
This offer from Rolls-Royce seems to have some ulterior motive. Engines of similar thrusts are on offer from indigenous entities like L&T, Godrej Aerospace & even DG Propulsion, the start-up. Our companies have covered a lot of ground in super-alloys, thermal management, nozzle designing etc. Moreover, there are unconfirmed reports that Kaveri derivative has passed all the flight tests admirably.
At this stage, let us not ditch our desi initiatives. We need to have a little more patience.
35 years is a long time to develop anything. Nothing us delivered hence it should be dumped and start is made from the beginning with new workforce.
 
This engine is yet to be developed, whereas the already developed Russian 177 S with higher thrust is also being offered. So, it is for IAF/concerned authorities to take a suitable decision in this regard.
Weight of 177 S over 1600 kgs and it's dimensions are stumbling blocks, which will n̈necessitate increase in dimensions of the aircraft
 
Safran has offered the exact same thing with full IPR.
The Russians are much more likely to make concessions for technology and IPR transfer than the French. The latters hates propping up new potential competitors. I get it.. It's purely business and I'd like do the same.

Look up the French lambasting TKMS recently. I used that as my reference point to formulate my current stance on the matter.
 
Reservation is the main problem...it is causing huge brain drain crysis...lot of talented young people wants to get out of this country due to lack of opportunity...if you give job to that people who gets 40 out of 100 and rejecting that person who is getting 90% and you think you can develop a country...then it's a bullshit....accept the truth...Reservation is killing India....
You hit the nail on the head. You are absolutely right. Everybody knows about Brain Drain but did nothing to stop it and present Govt is no better in this regard.
 
You hit the nail on the head. You are absolutely right. Everybody knows about Brain Drain but did nothing to stop it and present Govt is no better in this regard.
Our politicians are surviving on Religion and Caste appeasement. Sinhababu sometimes writes to the point. It's BJP or Congress, they cannot survive without appeasement
 
We must ink deal with Rolls Royce to jointly develop 90-95 KN, 110-130+ KN engine with IP rights ! 90+KN for Tejas-1A, 110 KN engines for AMCA-MK-1 and 130+ KN engines for AMCA-II will be good option !
 
Our aim should be a joint development of 110kN based on a reliable engine like GE414 or Eurojet for AMCA.
Next stage could be joint development or fully indigenious 120 to140kN high technology VCE gasturbine engine with stealth and thrust vectoring nozzle.for a future 6th generation fighter aircraft.
 
After USA UK is the most unreliable partner for a defence procurement. A country turned minority in its own country. Radical ideologies are harboured in uk from Pak bangladesh Lanka palistine and china. They are probably on verge of handing over power to these radicals. Hence no partnership is worth
 
This is the usual honeytrap of Westerners in which GoI is landing. In the late 1950s, this same British-born company backstabbed the Indian government by refusing to cooperate to provide advanced engines for Indigenous HAL Maruat fighters in favour of the development of British Jaguars. Ultimately, the Britishers killed the whole HAL Maruat project. Resulting Indians had to start entirely from scratch again in the 1980s for their ‘Tajas fighter’ project. The tragedy was that the British sold the same Jaguars to us because indigenous Maruat development was discontinued.
This same Anglo-American theory is repeated to counter and halt Indian developments in jet engines. As usual, RR is expected to walk away from the project in favour of their own 6G fighter project.
France or Russia, which are not part of this typical Anglo-American “world under our control” theme, would be the only prospective technology partners for us.
 
Instead of a ToT, the engine should be jointly developed by GE and Indian engineers. This way, we can make sure GE will fulfill its commitments.
 
If India is really serious about AMCA, then strike the deal with RR as soon as possible. Then you can expect AMCA around 2040. There is no certainty about the GE F14 engine. India cannot build an engine on its own because of a lack of talent in our country, and our third-class scientists coming from reservation. I don't know what our government is doing. If a company is offering such a good deal, then why is our government sleeping?
Why use words like 3rd class in your comments. These 3rd class scientists are only responsible for ISRO, BARC and TIFR success.

If you or anyone thinks they are capable enough please send your CV to DRDO / GTRE.

When those so called capable are more interested in minting money than serving our nation then we will have to live with it. Don't blame those who are atleast serving our country though they might have failed several times. Remember failure itself has proved to be the stepping stone for success in many cases. Jai Hind 🇮🇳
If India is really serious about AMCA, then strike the deal with RR as soon as possible. Then you can expect AMCA around 2040. There is no certainty about the GE F14 engine. India cannot build an engine on its own because of a lack of talent in our country, and our third-class scientists coming from reservation. I don't know what our government is doing. If a company is offering such a good deal, then why is our government sleeping?
 
Don't know how far the news is true but anyway it has become a good debating topic. By the way no foreign company will give 100% TOT/IPR no matter how much money is paid.
 

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