Russia Pitches AL-41 Engine with Local Production for India's Su-30MKI Fleet, Replacing AL-31 for Su-57-Like Stealth

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In a major strategic proposal, Russia has offered to equip the Indian Air Force's (IAF) fleet of Su-30MKI fighter jets with the advanced AL-41 engine, the same powerplant used in its fifth-generation Su-57 stealth fighter.

According to defence sources, the proposal includes licensed production of the engine in India, aiming to significantly enhance the capabilities of the IAF's primary combat aircraft.

The plan suggests that Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) would manufacture the new engines at its Nashik facility, which currently handles the production of the Su-30MKI's existing AL-31FP engines.

This engine upgrade is a central component of the IAF's ambitious "Super Sukhoi" modernization program.

The AL-41 engine represents a substantial technological leap over the AL-31FP, delivering greater thrust, improved fuel efficiency, and superior agility, which would elevate the Su-30MKI's performance closer to that of a next-generation fighter.

This proposal aligns with a comprehensive upgrade initiative for an initial 84 Su-30MKI aircraft, approved by India's Defence Acquisition Council in November 2023.

The project, valued at approximately ₹66,829 crore (US$7.9 billion), involves integrating advanced avionics, indigenous radar systems, and state-of-the-art weaponry, with HAL serving as the lead integrator.

The offer strongly supports India's long-term goal of self-reliance in defence manufacturing under the "Make in India" initiative.

Local production of the powerful AL-41 at HAL's Nashik division would leverage the facility's two decades of experience in assembling Su-30MKI aircraft and their engines.

The Nashik plant possesses the necessary infrastructure and skilled workforce, making it ideally suited to absorb the new technology.

This move would also revitalize the facility, which recently secured an order for 12 additional Su-30MKI jets, reinforcing its critical role in India's aerospace and defence ecosystem.

A key benefit of the Russian proposal is the AL-41 engine's design compatibility with the existing Su-30MKI airframe. This would allow for a more straightforward integration process, potentially reducing the time and cost associated with major structural modifications.

At the Aero India 2025 exhibition, Vadim Badekha, the head of Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation, has already confirmed the offer. "We are offering the new AL-41 engine as part of the Sukhoi-30 upgrade to India," he stated, emphasizing its capacity to improve the aircraft's speed and overall combat effectiveness.

The engine features advanced technologies like a Full Authority Digital Engine Control (FADEC) system, which provides optimal performance across the flight envelope.

The proposed upgrade comes at a crucial time as the IAF seeks to maintain a technological advantage amid evolving regional security dynamics.

With around 260 aircraft, the Su-30MKI is the backbone of India's air combat fleet and is projected to remain in service for several decades.

Integrating the AL-41 engine, along with other planned enhancements like the indigenous Uttam Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar and Astra beyond-visual-range missiles, would provide a formidable boost to the fleet's combat range, lethality, and survivability.

Despite the attractive performance benefits, India is conducting a thorough evaluation of the offer. Officials are carefully weighing the potential costs, integration timelines, and geopolitical implications, including the risk of sanctions under the U.S. Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA).

Furthermore, domestic alternatives are also under consideration. These include HAL's own efforts to enhance the existing AL-31FP engine, which has already achieved 54% indigenous content, as well as the development of a more powerful variant that could offer a cost-effective and self-reliant path for modernization.

The final decision will depend on a careful balance between acquiring cutting-edge technology and strengthening indigenous defence capabilities.
 
We can locally manufacture Su 30 MKI, put these new engines and use locally produced munition to and secure our airspace and other borders easily . We are making only 12 more , why not , 200 more so these jets can do a lot of good to the squadron strength of IAF.500 Sukoi can change the dynamic of air defence and offense .
 
By the way, don't discard the old engines ,that will be nearly 500 plus as each aircraft has 2 , that is from 272 from existing su30 fleet ,that get new Engines and we can use them to power UCAV or heavy drones . Don't waste these replaced engines as we can have , nearly 500 drones in few months time .
 
By the way, don't discard the old engines ,that will be nearly 500 plus as each aircraft has 2 , that is from 272 from existing su30 fleet ,that get new Engines and we can use them to power UCAV or heavy drones . Don't waste these replaced engines as we can have , nearly 500 drones in few months time .
Excellent dynamics. Brahmaputra and Muscova are merging. Interesting times.
 
Better go for an AL-51 derivative for the Super Sukhoi; it will have commonality with the AL-51, which is expected to power the Su-57. With an eye on the Super Sukhoi remaining in service until 2060, an AL-51 derivative will be a good choice. With over 70% commonality, it will be easier to manufacture locally as the Su-57 offer also stands with joint manufacturing.
 
Better go for an AL-51 derivative for the Super Sukhoi; it will have commonality with the AL-51, which is expected to power the Su-57. With an eye on the Super Sukhoi remaining in service until 2060, an AL-51 derivative will be a good choice. With over 70% commonality, it will be easier to manufacture locally as the Su-57 offer also stands with joint manufacturing.
True, as the AL-41 is not good enough in terms of both thrust and maintenance efficiency to make a costly investment in replacing all engines of the MKI fleet.
If the AL-51 turns out to be decent enough, then it can replace the AL-31.
 
Why we didn't go for Russian engines for our Mk2 platform is a huge mystery to me.
Russian engines are not good enough compared to the West... they don't have better thrust and always have maintenance issues and availability... Russia has yet to upgrade its jet engine technology...
 
Russian engines are not good enough compared to the West... they don't have better thrust and always have maintenance issues and availability... Russia has yet to upgrade its jet engine technology...
HAHAhaha. Now, Russian engines have improved a lot, but Russian engines are heavy; that's why we avoided them, but the Chinese J-10 is also powered by AL-31 engines.
 
Better go for an AL-51 derivative for the Super Sukhoi; it will have commonality with the AL-51, which is expected to power the Su-57. With an eye on the Super Sukhoi remaining in service until 2060, an AL-51 derivative will be a good choice. With over 70% commonality, it will be easier to manufacture locally as the Su-57 offer also stands with joint manufacturing.
I don't think the bay size on the Su-30 is compatible with the AL-51, that's why they made the derivative engine based off some of its increased durability materials as a drop-in replacement for the 31 and 41 both. The 51 is a newer design that requires a new jet, and changing the engine bays in post is infeasible.
 
I have some doubt about the timeframe when the AMCA will be inducted. In the future, with the range of air-to-air (A2A) missiles approaching close to 1,000 km, how will medium-weight stealth planes ensure their survival? Their survival will depend on the use of close-range directed energy weapons, which require a tremendous amount of energy. This energy will not be available in medium-weight aircraft due to their size limitations, in addition to the weight of A2A missiles, computing power, and the excess weight of fuel for higher-thrust engines. Therefore, what is their relevance?
 
I have some doubt about the timeframe when the AMCA will be inducted. In the future, with the range of air-to-air (A2A) missiles approaching close to 1,000 km, how will medium-weight stealth planes ensure their survival? Their survival will depend on the use of close-range directed energy weapons, which require a tremendous amount of energy. This energy will not be available in medium-weight aircraft due to their size limitations, in addition to the weight of A2A missiles, computing power, and the excess weight of fuel for higher-thrust engines. Therefore, what is their relevance?
Hitting highly manoeuvrable aircraft from even 400 km is a tough feat, let alone 1000 km. Perhaps AWACS and refuellers can be hit from that range, but hitting something like an Su-30 MKI at that range is tough.
 
Just get an engine that is bound to be delivered within the timeframe, if it meets the requirement. What IAF must realise is that they do not have the time to be picky about things.
 
Unless Russia is offering to transfer a higher amount of technology and allow more local production from indigenous raw materials at a cheaper and reasonable price then there isn’t much point.

The AL41 doesn’t offer any significant benefit that would give us a major advantage. It has a higher thrust rate, better fuel efficiency, longer lifespan but only slightly.

The best option is to keep working and improving the current engine to give us a better performance like we have been doing.
 

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