Russia Plans to Propose G2G Sale of 60-70 Su-57E 5th-Gen Fighter Jets to India During Putin Visit

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Russia is preparing to offer India a substantial Government-to-Government (G2G) deal for the sale of 60-70 Su-57E fifth-generation fighter jets during President Vladimir Putin's anticipated visit in early 2025, according to sources familiar with the matter.

This proposal marks a renewed Russian effort to deepen defence cooperation with India, particularly in the realm of advanced combat aircraft, following India's withdrawal from the joint Fifth-Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) program in 2018.

The proposed deal comes as the Indian Air Force (IAF) grapples with a concerning depletion of its combat squadron strength, currently below the sanctioned strength of 42 squadrons. Russian officials have indicated that the offer aims to address this shortfall by providing a swift infusion of advanced air power, with a suggested number of 60-70 Su-57E jets.

The Su-57E is the export variant of the Sukhoi Su-57 (NATO reporting name: Felon), a single-seat, twin-engine, multirole fighter aircraft designed for air superiority and attack operations. Developed by Sukhoi, part of Russia's United Aircraft Corporation, the Su-57 is touted as a stealth-capable aircraft with supercruise, super-maneuverability, and advanced avionics to overcome prior generation fighter aircraft as well as ground and naval defenses.

The jets offered to India are slated to be equipped with the advanced AL-51F engines. These engines are being promoted as true fifth-generation powerplants, promising enhanced thrust-to-weight ratio, fuel efficiency, and stealth characteristics.

Russia is reportedly prepared to offer the Su-57E at a price point significantly lower than that of the French Dassault Rafale, a 4.5-generation twin-engine fighter already in service with the IAF.

This competitive pricing, combined with the advanced capabilities of the Su-57E, could make the Russian offer attractive to the Indian defence establishment, which is constantly evaluating options to modernize its military hardware.

To meet the potential demand, Russia is actively expanding its Su-57 production capabilities. Sources suggest that annual production is slated to increase from the current 15 units to 25 units in the coming years, potentially enabling faster delivery schedules for any potential Indian order.

The offer represents a revival of Russian efforts to engage India in high-end defence technology transfers, following the collapse of the ambitious FGFA project.

The FGFA program, intended to develop a tailored two-seat variant of the Su-57 for the IAF, was abandoned by India in 2018 due to concerns regarding delays, escalating costs, technology transfer issues, and whether the platform truly met fifth-generation fighter specifications. According to open sources, the FGFA project was estimated to cost over $6 billion.

Russian officials have been actively lobbying for the Su-57E since then, emphasizing the aircraft's advancements and arguing that it now meets India's stringent requirements for a next-generation combat platform.

While the Su-57 made its maiden flight in 2010, full-scale production was delayed due to technical difficulties. The aircraft first saw combat during the Syrian civil war in 2018, and has reportedly been used in the ongoing war in Ukraine. It officially entered service with the Russian Aerospace Forces in December 2020.

The proposal also arrives at a crucial juncture for the IAF, which is looking for interim solutions to bolster its air power while its indigenous Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) program, aimed at developing a domestic fifth-generation fighter, is still in the development phase. The first flight of the AMCA is not expected until at least 2027, with service entry not anticipated until the 2030s. An acquisition of the Su-57E could potentially serve as a stop-gap measure until the AMCA is fully operational.

The potential sale of the Su-57E to India will be closely watched by global defence analysts, as it could significantly impact the regional balance of power and shape the future of Indo-Russian defence ties. The deal's success hinges on various factors, including the final price, technology transfer agreements, and India's assessment of the Su-57E's capabilities in relation to its operational requirements and the evolving geopolitical landscape.
 
That's the only option
US supply of engines is uncertain so unless youb3xpierment with other engines amca won't fly.. also other countries won't give tech.. whether our engineers will develop an engine is uncertain... so su57 or 75 are the only options....
 
Who will certify that Su57e is actually stealthy? Are they worth it because India will face heat from the US for the purchase. Also unless Russia establishes MRO facility in Blore, India should not consider I the offer seriously.
 
If =>80% ToT with made in India is accepted India should seriously consider this platform, along with Tu160M.
 
Wonderful news.

Now its slowly becoming clear that our DPSUs can not produce a 5th generation fighter jet in-house.

All those articles about how AMCA will be ultra stealthy and how it will be a wonder-weapon to rule the earth were pure bollocks.!!

I see a repeat of Su-30 MKI happening in the 5th generation aircraft space as well.
 
100 times I have said that Russia will offer the Su-57 during Russian President Putin's visit to Bharat in 2025. My guess was right. I said HAL should consider at least 72 Su-57s instead of Su-30MKIs. Plus, the Su-57 will be offered in a customized variant for the IAF. If the Su-57 meets IAF requirements, then the number may go up to 100 plus, with ToT and a local assembly line. Second, again today, I am repeating that the Su-57 offer will come, as Bharat can incorporate Su-57 tech in the Super Sukhoi upgrade too, with an AL-41 engine derivative.
 
Wonderful news.

Now its slowly becoming clear that our DPSUs can not produce a 5th generation fighter jet in-house.

All those articles about how AMCA will be ultra stealthy and how it will be a wonder-weapon to rule the earth were pure bollocks.!!

I see a repeat of Su-30 MKI happening in the 5th generation aircraft space as well.
So you are saying all those CCS approval will go in dustbin and AMCA project will be scrapped?
 
100 times I have said that Russia will offer the Su-57 during Russian President Putin's visit to Bharat in 2025. My guess was right. I said HAL should consider at least 72 Su-57s instead of Su-30MKIs. Plus, the Su-57 will be offered in a customized variant for the IAF. If the Su-57 meets IAF requirements, then the number may go up to 100 plus, with ToT and a local assembly line. Second, again today, I am repeating that the Su-57 offer will come, as Bharat can incorporate Su-57 tech in the Super Sukhoi upgrade too, with an AL-41 engine derivative.
Take fighter jets for now to fill the gap but if you stop in AMCA and engine progress then we are such a bunch of fools. and i dont think we can produce a better engine than Russia, so the time when kaveri will be perfect, Engines across the world would have reached a different height, so do we really need kaveri engine and wasting money on that?
 
No need. AMCA is a 5.5 gen fighter, SU57 is not even a 5th generation fighter. Even Russian Air force is not ordering them. Concentrate on AMCA so that by 2035 IAF inducts it's first. Now that Hindi Chini bhai bhai again, no need for panic buying.
 
Take fighter jets for now to fill the gap but if you stop in AMCA and engine progress then we are such a bunch of fools. and i dont think we can produce a better engine than Russia, so the time when kaveri will be perfect, Engines across the world would have reached a different height, so do we really need kaveri engine and wasting money on that?
Both are different projects. No need to panic. Even the Kaveri engine for Tejas MK1A will also be developed. The goal is to become "atmanirbhar." AMCA's 110 kN engine is for the 6th generation, so development will continue, subject to IPR, export rights, and ToT for a work-share agreement with a foreign partner. Buying the Su-57 will not affect the AMCA project at all. The AMCA induction date is 2035. The only 5th-gen with ToT is the Su-57. I don't think the US will match the Russian offer at all.
 
Why Russians are not pushing for Su-75 Checkmate with single engine instead of Su-57?
It would be a better option, as Su-57 is heavy platform comparatively to Su-75 which is Medium category platform, if we are looking to fill the depleting strength and panic buying because of Pakistan adding a fifth-generation platform into their arsenal.
 
No need. AMCA is a 5.5 gen fighter, SU57 is not even a 5th generation fighter. Even Russian Air force is not ordering them. Concentrate on AMCA so that by 2035 IAF inducts it's first. Now that Hindi Chini bhai bhai again, no need for panic buying.
How you define a 5.5 gen fighter? What's the difference between 5th gen and 5.5 gen fighter?
 
No need. AMCA is a 5.5 gen fighter, SU57 is not even a 5th generation fighter. Even Russian Air force is not ordering them. Concentrate on AMCA so that by 2035 IAF inducts it's first. Now that Hindi Chini bhai bhai again, no need for panic buying.
Don't you think Su-57 is still in developmental phase, as we recently saw Russians were trying flat nozzels for the engine exaust. Even the total number of su-57 produced till date is self-explanatory that Su-57 has not entered into production yet.
 
It would be unwise to rely on U.S. geopolitical policy, as it can change at any time. Instead, invest wisely in initiatives that serve the country's interests. The timeline for the AMCA's development could take another ten years to materialize, even if everything goes smoothly. We should learn from our experiences, even if they result in failure, and move on to the next generation of fighter aircraft. In the meantime, we could focus on developing the Kaveri engine or collaborate with companies like Rolls-Royce or Safran to achieve our goals.
 
If we subscribe to the theory that Pakistan would have an advantage when and if China agrees to supply one of their 5th Gen Export versions to PAF, then we are caught napping. HAL & AMCA is a pipe dream when it evolves, the need for 5th Gen would be in our tail mirror. US of A will not offer its lightnings until we bow down and agree to all t&c. So the alternative is the Su 57e. We may not like it, it may not even be the full package but what else .....and do not say AMCA for gods sake....... We can talk this down to the bones but reality is ugly.
 
Negotiate hard on the commercials and technology transfer and sign the deal. It is a no-brainer. The Su-57 platform has matured a lot over the last 10 years since India had evaluated it. If it comes with the Al-51/Object 30 engines, there is really nothing more to ask. The 20 year old Su-30 MKI fleet is inching towards 70% fleet availability, compared to 75% for brand new Rafales.

72 Su-57 / 4 squadrons would give us a capability lift that is sorely needed given the falling fighter squadron levels. And, Chinese junk cannot come near it. The only real competitor of SU-57 is F-22.
 
People talk about filling the gap, even if you buy 15 sq. Of su57, gap will remain there, defence is a money sinkhole
 
Better to develop own industry, slowly which wil earn by selling to others and our defence products come free
 
Don't you think Su-57 is still in developmental phase, as we recently saw Russians were trying flat nozzels for the engine exaust. Even the total number of su-57 produced till date is self-explanatory that Su-57 has not entered into production yet.
Yes Su 57 is in its developmental cycle. Also there is doubt that Russian Industry under sanctions and suffering a lack of qualified labour can tool up to produce it any significant numbers. Still its waaaaay ahead of AMCA...
 
Better to develop own industry, slowly which wil earn by selling to others and our defence products come free
Enemy will not wait for you.
West wanted to arm ukraine to the hilt. But Russians attacked them, before it was too late.
India wanted 126 rafales, we got 36 but not before balakot. And IAF felt the absence of rafales dearly.
 
If we subscribe to the theory that Pakistan would have an advantage when and if China agrees to supply one of their 5th Gen Export versions to PAF, then we are caught napping. HAL & AMCA is a pipe dream when it evolves, the need for 5th Gen would be in our tail mirror. US of A will not offer its lightnings until we bow down and agree to all t&c. So the alternative is the Su 57e. We may not like it, it may not even be the full package but what else .....and do not say AMCA for gods sake....... We can talk this down to the bones but reality is ugly.
Pakistan will never get 5th generation stealth jets from China ever. The main reason is because they don’t trust Pakistan completely. China knows that USA will pay to have a good look at their stealth jets technology, capabilities and weaknesses if they paid them to and cash strapped and traitorous Pakistan would gladly accept that bribe.
 
The problem is su57 can be said mostly a 4.75 gen jet.
  1. Its inception was not as a pure stealth jet as russian philosophy is they want to depend more on close combats. Maybe it can out maneuver f22 if it gets new engines.
  2. It dont have cutting edge BVR. Even WVR is not upto date.
  3. Engine is not there.
  4. Some defense personal commented that its not well made, when it was show cased in some chinese defense expo.
If we will go for su57, we will be buying a white elephant, and its upgrades, which can make it comparable will be comming from Indias pocket, and it will take years. Maybe AMCA will make its first flight before.
P.S - Not saying waiting for AMCA is wise
 
What a bunch of armchair critics commenting here.... Firstly, Russian equipment is junk, it is the efficiency, courage and Valor of the Indian armed forces that boosts the efficiency of these weapons. The Russians are sparingly, almost reluctantly, using these platforms in the Ukraine war. The earlier successful governments is responsible for the lethargy in the manufacture of arms in this country. For crying out loud, Nehru did not want an army either...
 
India should have a look at the jets technology, capabilities, equipment, stealth capabilities, type of weapons that can be used, engine power and performance, range, combat range etc before we decide. We could just buy 1 squadron to give us a bit of a boost and added fire power on the LAC if they transfer the technology to us, get to manufacture it indigenously, install Indian technology and use Indian weapons etc.

Our main focus should still be on developing the AMCA and manufacturing the prototypes as soon as possible as we need to develop and manufacture this 100% indigenously. Our industry should work overtime so we can get everything manufactured quicker.
 
@Hugo Sanchez
What are ur options for IAF to meet a 3 front war? And hostilities will not give u 3 yr. Notice to start
2 Front war is a different story altogether, which opens different scenarios and options for India.
West will not let that happen. equipment, even pilots, technicians will be provided by west, if India will need in case of a 2 front war.
India need air-superiority more in case of no war no peace situation. Pakis want air superiority not cuz they want to start a war, or they fear a war by India.
They want it cuz, they want to execute their pushing terrorist in India strategy and if India attacks via IAF, they want to be prepared and discourage this.
 
The problem is su57 can be said mostly a 4.75 gen jet.
  1. Its inception was not as a pure stealth jet as russian philosophy is they want to depend more on close combats. Maybe it can out maneuver f22 if it gets new engines.
  2. It dont have cutting edge BVR. Even WVR is not upto date.
  3. Engine is not there.
  4. Some defense personal commented that its not well made, when it was show cased in some chinese defense expo.
If we will go for su57, we will be buying a white elephant, and its upgrades, which can make it comparable will be comming from Indias pocket, and it will take years. Maybe AMCA will make its first flight before.
P.S - Not saying waiting for AMCA is wise
I have some counters
  1. Whatever information we know about Su-57 props and mostly cons is originated from western media only. And obviously they are biased.
  2. Su-57 we saw flying around are prototype variants, so one should not expect a production grade quality. Recently we have seen Russians trying to integrate flat nozzels for engine exhaust.
 

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