Saab to Spearhead Sweden's Next-Gen Fighter Program

Stockholm, Sweden – Saab, the cornerstone of Sweden's aerospace and defense industry, has been awarded a pivotal contract by the Swedish Defence Materiel Administration (FMV).

This contract initiates a series of comprehensive conceptual studies that will shape the development of Sweden's future fighter aircraft, safeguarding the nation's air superiority for decades to come.

The two-year project (2024-2025) will delve into the vanguard of air combat technologies. Artificial Intelligence (AI), integration into networked warfare systems, advanced sensors, stealth capabilities, and collaboration with unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) will be at the forefront of the research and development effort.

The goal is to design and produce a sixth-generation fighter jet capable of replacing existing platforms, such as the Gripen and the Eurofighter, by 2035.

This initiative aligns with a wider European push for next-generation air power. Sweden, with Saab and GKN Aerospace Sweden as key players, remains actively involved in Team Tempest. This collaborative project with Italy and the United Kingdom seeks to pioneer technologies defining the future of aerial warfare.

Saab's expertise, honed through the development of the advanced Gripen E and the GlobalEye airborne surveillance platform, positions the company as the ideal driving force for this national endeavor.

The upcoming conceptual studies will illuminate the path towards a Swedish fighter jet that embodies the absolute cutting edge of aerial combat technology.

 

[Hari Sud]

Good question…… what is India got to do with it.

 

[NSR]

Best option for India to manufacture a 6th Generation fighter is to join the consortium of UK, Italy and Japan.
Pay 1/4th cost which is very minimal and get a high-performance fighter which can outduel Terroristan/Beggeristan and criminal china fighters.

 

[sanket]

Best option for India to manufacture a 6th Generation fighter is to join the consortium of UK, Italy and Japan.
Pay 1/4th cost which is very minimal and get a high-performance fighter which can outduel Terroristan/Beggeristan and criminal china fighters.

it is better to Focus on AMCA project .Multinational project have less Benefits . war Time Ban . it is better to b Atmanirbhar to fight war.Thats why being Runner-up Eurofighter has least chance to Win in MRFA

 

[charminar_waale_ismail_bhai]

Pay 1/4th cost which is very minimal and get a high-performance fighter

Very minimal boley toh?
Rupees 2000 - 3000 mei kam ho jaayenga?

 

[NSR]

it is better to Focus on AMCA project .Multinational project have less Benefits . war Time Ban . it is better to b Atmanirbhar to fight war.Thats why being Runner-up Eurofighter has least chance to Win in MRFA

India can continue to develop its own 5th generation fighter.

But a 6th Generation fighter will be available at the same time and possibly help pollinate AMCA with great new technologies.
Most countries are doing joint projects.

India is buying tons of armaments from USA and France too.
Don't worry.

 

[Ashutosh]

Ind. has already set enough foundation for 6th gen.

At this point I think India has more clearer approach to the 6th gen then the 'west'

• CATS: currently the most futuristic program ( and most important; even more important than AMCA) joint venture by HAL and New Space and Research ( Public private partnership)
  >Loyal Wingmen are the real future, a LCA with a formation of 10+ CATS warrior would be a total nightmare.
• Abhimanyu: similar to CATS > imp. thing is it's New Space and Research centre's program ( Pvt. Company)
• RPSA( Ghatak) -
  simultaneous development of
  >SWiFT( successful flights done- surveillance drone) by DRDO
  > Vajra ( surveillance drone ) by Garuda Aerospace ( Pvt . Company)

All given systems mentioned above would be the part of Combat Air teaming - the actual future.

• Low cost -5 gen fighter ( workhouse of the future) - LCA mk2 and maybe ORCA( AF of TEDBF)
• AMCA mk1: 5 th gen with the scope of adding future technologies.
• JV with foreign partners for 6th gen. engine development .
• AMCA mk2 - enhanced ( and maybe a larger variant due to use of better engine) version of AMCA mk1

might be ur 6th gen fighter or will serve as tech. demonstrator for 6th gen. i.e AMCA mk2 would be too close to ur 6th gen or in actual basis would be ur 6th gen. fighter.

Idk what's 6th gen. actually!? But from all understanding I have got 6th gen. is nothing but an advanced 5th gen. with sole concentration on reducing the probability of Aircraft detection and interception.

 

[sanket]

India can continue to develop its own 5th generation fighter.

But a 6th Generation fighter will be available at the same time and possibly help pollinate AMCA with great new technologies.
Most countries are doing joint projects.

India is buying tons of armaments from USA and France too.
Don't worry.

AMCA MK2 will have 6th Gen Features / upgrades , why to waste Xtra monies..............

 

[NSR]

AMCA MK2 will have 6th Gen Features / upgrades , why to waste Xtra monies..............

You gotta understand some basic things from reading and from observing events happening with IAF and HAL, ADA and DRDO, etc in developing and manufacturing fighter jets.
Nothing happening that gives me any confidence.

Hope you got my drift.

 

[Apocalypse gupta]

Ind. has already set enough foundation for 6th gen.

At this point I think India has more clearer approach to the 6th gen then the 'west'

• CATS: currently the most futuristic program ( and most important; even more important than AMCA) joint venture by HAL and New Space and Research ( Public private partnership)
  >Loyal Wingmen are the real future, a LCA with a formation of 10+ CATS warrior would be a total nightmare.
• Abhimanyu: similar to CATS > imp. thing is it's New Space and Research centre's program ( Pvt. Company)
• RPSA( Ghatak) -
  simultaneous development of
  >SWiFT( successful flights done- surveillance drone) by DRDO
  > Vajra ( surveillance drone ) by Garuda Aerospace ( Pvt . Company)

All given systems mentioned above would be the part of Combat Air teaming - the actual future.

• Low cost -5 gen fighter ( workhouse of the future) - LCA mk2 and maybe ORCA( AF of TEDBF)
• AMCA mk1: 5 th gen with the scope of adding future technologies.
• JV with foreign partners for 6th gen. engine development .
• AMCA mk2 - enhanced ( and maybe a larger variant due to use of better engine) version of AMCA mk1

might be ur 6th gen fighter or will serve as tech. demonstrator for 6th gen. i.e AMCA mk2 would be too close to ur 6th gen or in actual basis would be ur 6th gen. fighter.

Idk what's 6th gen. actually!? But from all understanding I have got 6th gen. is nothing but an advanced 5th gen. with sole concentration on reducing the probability of Aircraft detection and interception.

Also, IAF has focused on network centric warfare in past few years. The loyal wingmen will be compatible with all of indian domestic jets like tejas mk1a, mk2, tedbf and amca

 

[CCPSmasher]

Most likely Saab will come out with theirnext gen fighter before HAL rolls out AMCA. That's the sad reality we are all in

 

[Rajesh]

India can continue to develop its own 5th generation fighter.

But a 6th Generation fighter will be available at the same time and possibly help pollinate AMCA with great new technologies.
Most countries are doing joint projects.

India is buying tons of armaments from USA and France too.
Don't worry.

Or india can become a developmental partner for the sensors and engine and used them in our program . The tempest program is somewhat similar to amca(medium weight) so we can benefit from this project rather than the French program where not even the partners are being selected.

 

[Pad UwU]

Deym so weird design 🤔
Looks more like a crossover of vigen and su75😹😹😹...
Let's see what they basically learned from UK and Italy before leaving team Tempest when GCAP was form with Japan 🤭

 

[Pad UwU]

it is better to Focus on AMCA project .Multinational project have less Benefits . war Time Ban . it is better to b Atmanirbhar to fight war.Thats why being Runner-up Eurofighter has least chance to Win in MRFA

It's been almost 14yrs and AMCA's prototype is missing in action 🤭🙃

 

[Pad UwU]

Or india can become a developmental partner for the sensors and engine and used them in our program . The tempest program is somewhat similar to amca(medium weight) so we can benefit from this project rather than the French program where not even the partners are being selected.

Bruh India doesn't even have a working 100+kn engine.... The best thing we can offer is our IT expert industry in programing and our computer engineering... We can also offer our metallurgical foundries here to cut cost if they are having trouble in aircraft material especially platinum, titanium and aluminium if we join GCAP

 

[Pad UwU]

Ind. has already set enough foundation for 6th gen.

At this point I think India has more clearer approach to the 6th gen then the 'west'

• CATS: currently the most futuristic program ( and most important; even more important than AMCA) joint venture by HAL and New Space and Research ( Public private partnership)
  >Loyal Wingmen are the real future, a LCA with a formation of 10+ CATS warrior would be a total nightmare.
• Abhimanyu: similar to CATS > imp. thing is it's New Space and Research centre's program ( Pvt. Company)
• RPSA( Ghatak) -
  simultaneous development of
  >SWiFT( successful flights done- surveillance drone) by DRDO
  > Vajra ( surveillance drone ) by Garuda Aerospace ( Pvt . Company)

All given systems mentioned above would be the part of Combat Air teaming - the actual future.

• Low cost -5 gen fighter ( workhouse of the future) - LCA mk2 and maybe ORCA( AF of TEDBF)
• AMCA mk1: 5 th gen with the scope of adding future technologies.
• JV with foreign partners for 6th gen. engine development .
• AMCA mk2 - enhanced ( and maybe a larger variant due to use of better engine) version of AMCA mk1

might be ur 6th gen fighter or will serve as tech. demonstrator for 6th gen. i.e AMCA mk2 would be too close to ur 6th gen or in actual basis would be ur 6th gen. fighter.

Idk what's 6th gen. actually!? But from all understanding I have got 6th gen. is nothing but an advanced 5th gen. with sole concentration on reducing the probability of Aircraft detection and interception.

Nah all you mention has been tested in 4.5gen aircraft and some 5gens from US, China and may Turks/Korean already did it but would only implement it in their next variant kf21 Boramae mk2/mk3 and Kaan mk2 in the future.... The fact that AMCA is still a paper/CGI aircraft without any materialize prototype

 

[Rajesh]

Bruh India doesn't even have a working 100+kn engine.... The best thing we can offer is our IT expert industry in programing and our computer engineering... We can also offer our metallurgical foundries here to cut cost if they are having trouble in aircraft material especially platinum, titanium and aluminium if we join GCAP

Did I say we offer anything regarding engine . If u don't understand the sentence it is not my problem. All I said is we can be the partner for the engine development which anyways we will be doing with one of the western partners along with sensors which is what we require for amca program. Since u mentioned that we don't have anything of 100kn to offered then what will we be offering as per the jv for 110kn engine development. It is totally invest as per the agreement and learn how they develop the engine.

 

[desigandu]

Too expensive for Sweden to go it alone...They should join the GCAP program, and so should India.