Safran's 110kN Engine for AMCA Promises Seamless Integration with Indian Rafale Jets, Significantly Increasing Their Combat Effectiveness

Safran's 110kN Engine for AMCA Promises Seamless Integration with Indian Rafale Jets, Significantly Increasing Their Combat Effectiveness


In a potential game-changer for India's air power, French aerospace giant Safran has offered to develop a powerful 110kN engine tailored for India's Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) program.

What makes this offer particularly attractive is Safran's assertion that this new engine could also be integrated into India's existing and future Rafale fighter jets, providing a substantial boost to their capabilities.

Safran emphasizes that the new 110kN engine will have similar dimensions to the M-88 engines currently powering the Rafale. This compatibility is crucial as it eliminates the need for significant modifications to the Rafale's airframe or engine bay.

This translates to lower integration costs and simplified maintenance for both the Indian Air Force (IAF) and the Indian Navy, which are currently operating 36 and procuring 26 Rafale M jets, respectively. This approach ensures a smooth transition without requiring extensive redesign or structural changes to the aircraft.

The proposed engine upgrade represents a significant leap in power of Rafale from the existing 75kN M-88. This increased thrust has the potential to significantly enhance the Rafale's performance in several key areas.

A higher thrust-to-weight ratio would translate to improved maneuverability and agility, while increased loiter time would allow the Rafale to remain in the combat zone for longer durations.

Furthermore, the added power could enable the aircraft to carry heavier payloads, expanding its weapons carrying capacity and mission versatility.

However, this ambitious project comes with its own set of challenges. Developing and integrating a new engine requires significant investment and time, factors that need careful consideration against the IAF and Navy's immediate operational requirements.

The increased power output might also impact engine life and maintenance intervals, necessitating careful management to ensure the fleet's operational efficiency.

Despite these challenges, the prospect of equipping India's Rafale fleet with a more powerful engine represents a major advancement in the country's air superiority strategy.

If successful, this initiative could significantly bolster India's defence capabilities and its position in the global aerospace arena.
 
Safran has said exactly the same thing I have been saying for 100 times. The same engine will be integrated into Rafale, whether it's the Air Force or Naval version. Apart from that, Tejas MK2 and TEDBF are likely to be integrated in a midlife upgrade, which is likely to replace the GE-414 engine. That's why Safran is the front runner in developing the AMCA engine compared to other contenders (36+26=62 Rafale). Each will require 3.5 engines in its life span, which means another 6 engines per Rafale, totaling 372 engines. So it's a big requirement for engines, plus it can be integrated into the FCAS project too. Most likely, a common hot core might be developed with GTRE.
 
Safran is just hanging carrots in front of India by saying that it can be reverse fitted into Indian Rafale jets. The weight and size of these jets will definitely be different, which means that it will require shifting of other equipment inside the jets. These statements are made to appeal to the general masses who do not know much about aircraft manufacturing but can make noise to influence some political leaders.
 
Timeline is most critical and does Safran able to deliver on time as per MOU and contract? There needs to be penalty for Safran and defense industry from France in case they miss deadline. Unless and until India starts flagging failures to comply to contract clause this is a useless deal.
 
Safran needs funds to develop next generation engine which it needs to keep viability of its fleet. This engine will benefit France. India makes for a good sucker but would it fund its engineers and scientist for half the cost?
 
Will Volvo GE supply line get sorted. You guys have leverage to keep each engine makers a float, but who which has a big enough order to build and repair. If the aerospace companies are looking to out bid the States market.
 
What they are proposing is basically a 110kn engine based on existing M88 engine of Rafal.
It will have some modification on LP and HP core to improve its performance to 110kn and keep engine interfacs same sothat changing engine of Rafal fighter to 110kn will be a smooth affair.
DRDO GTRE will be just adapting to their design and India will have IPR and manufacturing right make in India.
Ok go ahead.
 
It’s important that we quickly design, develop and manufacture a brand new engine with Safran for the AMCA jet. We will own 100% of the technology and get to manufacture it indigenously with indigenous raw materials.

Also with this engine we can definitely use it on the Tejas MK1A, MK2 jets as well which will enhance their range and performance in every category.

However we should also be able to install it on the Rafale jets as France is looking to develop a more powerful and brand new engine for their Rafale fleet which will still be in service for over 50 years until they slowly retire their fleet. So this engine is crucial for both of our jets and we will need a large number of them.
 
People don't realise they are only giving 100% tot for manufacturing not design and know why.
 

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