Stryker ICV's 300hp Engine Proves Insufficient for Ladakh's Extreme Terrain, General Dynamics Pledges 600hp Upgrade for Re-trial

Stryker ICV's 300hp Engine Proves Insufficient for Ladakh's Extreme Terrain, General Dynamics Pledges 600hp Upgrade for Re-trial


The US-made Stryker Infantry Combat Vehicle (ICV), produced by General Dynamics Land Systems, has faced significant challenges during high-altitude mobility trials in the demanding terrain of Ladakh, India.

These trials, designed to evaluate the vehicle's suitability for deployment in extreme environments, revealed that the Stryker's 300-horsepower (hp) engine is underpowered for operations in high-altitude regions.

In response to this setback, General Dynamics has committed to upgrading the Stryker with a more powerful 600hp engine and will conduct re-trials once initial testing of the modified vehicle is complete.

The Ladakh region, with its high altitudes, extreme cold, low oxygen levels, and challenging terrain, presents a unique set of operational challenges for military vehicles. These conditions necessitate ICVs with exceptional mobility, durability, and combat effectiveness, especially for rapid deployment and operations in border areas along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) with China.

The eight-wheeled Stryker ICV underwent rigorous testing in Ladakh as part of India's initiative to modernize its mechanized infantry battalions. The Indian Army is looking to procure approximately 530 ICVs to replace its aging fleet of Russian-origin BMP-2 vehicles.

The Stryker, known for its versatility and mobility in various terrains, was initially considered a strong contender under the US-India Initiative on Critical and Emerging Technologies (iCET), which focuses on joint production and technology collaboration.

However, during trials conducted in September-October 2024, the Stryker's Caterpillar C7 engine proved inadequate for the high-altitude environment. The engine's low power output struggled to cope with the reduced air density at high altitudes, resulting in compromised mobility and operational effectiveness. This raised serious concerns about the vehicle's suitability for deployment in mountainous regions like Ladakh and Sikkim, where India faces ongoing border tensions with China.

General Dynamics, acknowledging the Indian Army's feedback, has proposed a significant upgrade to the Stryker's powertrain. The existing 300hp engine will be replaced with a more robust 600hp engine, a move aimed at enhancing the vehicle's performance in high-altitude and challenging terrains. This increased power is expected to significantly improve the Stryker's power-to-weight ratio, enabling it to navigate steep inclines, traverse difficult terrain, and operate effectively in low-oxygen environments.

To ensure the effectiveness of the upgrade, General Dynamics will conduct initial trials of the modified Stryker in the US to validate the new engine's performance. Following successful completion of these trials, the upgraded vehicle will be sent to India for re-trials in Ladakh, allowing the Indian Army to reassess its capabilities under the same challenging conditions.

The Stryker's performance issues in Ladakh have also spurred discussions regarding indigenous alternatives, such as the Wheeled Armoured Platform (WhAP) developed by India's DRDO and Tata Advanced Systems.

The WhAP, designed specifically for Indian conditions, boasts a 600hp engine and amphibious capabilities, making it a potentially strong contender for high-altitude and diverse terrain operations. Critics of the Stryker acquisition argue that investing in indigenous platforms like the WhAP would better serve India's self-reliance goals in defence technology.
 
We are fools.....instead of indigenous alternatives, we are running after Stryker-less powerful, more costly, further delay for upgrading, further trials etc, etc inspite of having ready product at hand. When will we come out of these conciliation attitude ?
 
And private sector after devoting so much time, effort & energy into developing it is being ignored for US-Canadian junk. Junk because these platforms have not been developed from the start for Indian conditions as Whap has been. Also they are saboteurs of the ultimate kind and will always blackmail for spares and ditch you during wars as they did during Kargil war. Private sector will also start distrusting Indian government's commitment of purchase after it has been fully developed , tested and approved by our army.
 
That's good. Even then, the Army might show interest with some modifications. Second, the US may offer shifting of the production line to Bharat plus buying from Bharat some Stryker. That way, the US will seal the deal making Bharat an exporter of Stryker with local components/eco-system developed around it. Something is cooking.
 
I'm sure the US is perfectly capable of providing as much hp as india could ever hope for. There's ram trucks and ford powerstrokes running around all over the US with 2000-3000 hp.
 
What I am hearing about this deal is that the US needs another production line so that manufacturing can be ramped up in case of conflict with China. Same for Javelin.

Thus, India will build Strykers both for India and for the US and its allies.

Our army will have Strykers in smaller numbers and WhAPs in larger numbers.
 
Doesn't matter if it fails or not. We are going to buy anyways. Buy, buy and buy. Keep buying. Next decade will be interesting, because by then we will be deindustrialized and will become a vassal state of US.
 
Dear so called defence expert ji,

You are just doing copy paste with some tactical terms as you didn't bother to investigate whether C7 used is of 300hp or 350hp. In latest variants of Strykers they have already upgraded it to 450hp but in HAA trials it was 350hp. Which is not good enough due to high engine deration.

But you missed one key point is that Stryker does not have amphibian capabilities, which is already tested & validated in Mahindra defence's 8x8 & old Whap of TASL.
 
India should have chosen the WhAP from the beginning. Now, it's too late to get out from the Stryker. The USA won't accept. However, a new 600hp engine must improve high-altitude performance. Only, the cost shall double.
 
That's good. Even then, the Army might show interest with some modifications. Second, the US may offer shifting of the production line to Bharat plus buying from Bharat some Stryker. That way, the US will seal the deal making Bharat an exporter of Stryker with local components/eco-system developed around it. Something is cooking.
Again, it would be experimental product with new engine and only the Indian army will test it with over twice the cost of local products worse the product is Canadian.
 
I'm sure the US is perfectly capable of providing as much hp as india could ever hope for. There's ram trucks and ford powerstrokes running around all over the US with 2000-3000 hp.
Why pay twice for something and let them experiment when there is better & cheaper home-grown product.
 
Usually I am all for proven American kit, but in this case since the Stryker is already underpowered and an indigenous platform already meets IA requirements quite well, it's better to invest in WhAP APC.
 
Go for indigenous technologies where it is available and meets/exceeds performance of an import. As someone pointed out here India can bridge trade gap with US by other purchases like C17, P8I, etc.
 
Did we not know that the 300hp engine would be inadequate even when we chose to use a 600hp engine for Whap?

Of course, we knew; we just don't want to tell the US that we don't need the Stryker and that we have our Whap for the same, which is even better!

When you are a "developing" nation and an "emerging" economy, this will always be a problem. Let's state facts: we have to buy Stryker, or the relationship with the US will deteriorate and tariffs will be applicable, with a huge effect on trade, and the economy will suffer, governments will change, and elections will be lost.
 
The military are just conducting tests and trials to keep the USA happy into thinking that we will buy the Stryker but we are definitely not going to buy it. There is also an arms embargo on foreign armed vehicle imports so developing and manufacturing needs to be boosted.

So far we have 100% indigenously, designed, developed and manufactured the WHAP/Kestrel IFV. Currently we are developing a brand new indigenous turret which has a 30mm main canon gun, ATGM, medium machine gun, automatic grenade launcher, EW, APU etc.
 
Waste of time and resources. A 3 trillion economy cannot disaster what it wants. This is the cost of having relationship with US
 
We are fools.....instead of indigenous alternatives, we are running after Stryker-less powerful, more costly, further delay for upgrading, further trials etc, etc inspite of having ready product at hand. When will we come out of these conciliation attitude ?
You and me are fools politicians are more clever they select the substandard diffence things to extract commissions and m kickbacks from foreign companies
 
Indian made Cummins & MTU engines have proved their mettle for the Indian Army. They should use these indigenous make engines!
 
We have to buy Stryker there is no doubt about it in view of U.S pressure on Modi.otherwise pay 100 pct tarrif on all exports and loose billions of dollars in business. Finally with increased HP of 600 it's definitely a good product.
 
Usually I am all for proven American kit, but in this case since the Stryker is already underpowered and an indigenous platform already meets IA requirements quite well, it's better to invest in WhAP APC.
It's the weapons platform. It has the best toys out there. The Indian platforms are good but they don't have the toys yet. Plus the US is forcing us to buy as punishment for the Panu incident. The US plays for keeps.
 

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