Su-30MKIs to Soar Until 2050: IAF's Indigenization Plan Emphasizes Longevity

Su-30MKIs to Soar Until 2050: IAF's Indigenization Plan Emphasizes Longevity


The Indian Air Force (IAF) has bold, long-term plans for its backbone fighter, the Su-30MKI.

Aiming to keep the fleet operationally relevant well into the mid-2050s, the IAF is embarking on a major integration and upgrade program driven by a dramatic increase in domestic capabilities.

Indigenization at the Core​

The IAF's ambitious longevity plan for the Su-30MKI rests on a staggering 78% indigenization rate.

This would substantially transform the Su-30MKI, moving it away from its Russian origins and into the realm of a largely Indian-built and maintained fighter platform.

Extending Service Life​

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) is at the forefront of the IAF's extended service goal.

The task is to find ways to stretch the current lifespan of each Su-30MKI, which sits at approximately 6,000 flying hours (translating to 30-40 years). The aim is to add an additional 1,500 hours, potentially granting each aircraft another 10-15 years of operational service.

Indigenous Engine Upgrades​

Key to this effort is a partnership with the Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE) to develop homegrown upgrades for the Su-30MKI's AL-31F engines.

This is strategic, as HAL already manufactures a significant 87.7% of engine components domestically. Upgrading within India will not only extend engine life but opens potential for performance enhancements.

Continued Production​

The IAF's faith in the Su-30MKI is further reflected in recent procurement decisions. In 2021, the last two Su-30MKIs under a previous order were delivered.

To maintain fleet strength, HAL received approval to produce 12 additional aircraft, replacing losses due to accidents since 2001.

The Path to Self-Reliance​

Proposed Indian upgrades encompass a wide range of indigenization: from new avionics and AESA radar to replacing mission computers, IRST systems, and other key Russian sensors with Indian-built equivalents.

This dramatic transformation points towards a future where the aircraft requires minimal support from Russia.

The Su-30MKI's inherent robust build quality opens the possibility of life extension even without direct OEM support.

Looking Ahead​

The IAF's vision for its Su-30MKI fleet signals a shift towards greater self-reliance in defense capability.

This move has implications not only for fleet maintenance and longevity but also for the growth of India's aerospace industry.
 
This means AMCA will see daylight in 2050s only….. otherwise there is no point maintaining large fighters like Su30mki (that too with rcs 20m2) in IAF fleet if AMCA and MWF/TEDBF or mk2 comes in large numbers by 2040s…..
 
What next? IAF is already operating 2nd Gen MiG 21 when world is shifting to 5th Gen. And now plans to keep 4.5 Gen aircrafts till 2050s when World will move on to 6th Gen and will be developing 7th Gen...

Like, Come on!
2050 means we need to add +25, they might buy more 4th gen aircrafts.
 
Well, by the 2050s, India will also have be flying fifth generation aircraft for over a decade, and some form of 6th or 7th generation aircraft may also be in service or in the works.

The MiG-21 isn't the mainstay of the IAF today, is it? Similarly, the Su-30MKI will cease to be the IAF's mainstay by the early 2040s.
It won’t be, Tejas MK1/MK2 won’t match Su-30 in 4.5 gen, we can’t buy 250 Rafales either, so SU-30 will be our main stay at-least till 2075 when 5th gen jets will become the backbone.

with HAL?, unless they join a 5h gen project.
 
Speaking technically, India can keep manufacturing and utilizing them forever as they mastered how to make SU-30MKIs from raw materials from Russia.
Russia moved away from SU-30 to SU-35 & SU-57 and no one is ordering any SU-30s anymore.
India already mastered AL-31F engine manufacturing.

Lastly, India coming up with its own AESA radar and avionics and even missiles and bombs.

So Russia can be persuaded to share the designs and codes needed to build its own Super Sukhois forever at some lump some and one time compensation.
Even Mi-29 with RD-33MK would be a superior aerodynamic fighter for our Himalyan terrain.

Food for thought.
I think that would be the best thing for India, they could make another 3-4 squadrons of new SU-30’s in Super Sukhois config right from the scratch and cancel MRFA, MK2 can fill the rest of the need, but they need to remove the Canards to math or exceed SU-35 in frontal Stealth and replace the engines with AL-41F1 engines for higher power needs of AESA radar.
 
We should order more and upgrade su30mki as super suhkoi to maintain the needed air fleet if world war 3 suddenly explode
 
Sooner or later IAF has to join in ORCA program for replacement of SU-30MKI fleet.. Sooner they join will be good for our country... With 120KN jet engine ORCA will be same category aircraft as SU-30
ORCA is too late, MK2 is enough, a non stealth version of AMCA like the Korean KAI-21 would be enough to complement MK2 and Super SU-30, no need of ORCA.
 
Good news . With RAM coatings,Su-30 mki can also reduce its huge RCS to stay relevant in next generation aerial warfare.
Applying RAM coating is a waste of resources and funds... It'll still big in enemies radar because of the canards, external hard points with missiles and drop tanks
 
The days where Gen 6 will be ruling the skies a gen 4 will be the mainstay for India. Before that we will definitely see wars and all these plans will go for a toss.
4gen will be bomb carriers and frontliners/suicide aircraft if you can upgrade it with some AI auto copilot capabilities
 
Applying RAM coating is a waste of resources and funds... It'll still big in enemies radar because of the canards, external hard points with missiles and drop tanks
Still it can be used as mini long range bombers if it is configured to carry 3-4 long range cruise missiles tasked to hit targets deep in eastern china . It has a capacity to carry 9-10 tonnes of payload. A lot more better option than chinese H-6 bombers.
 
Still it can be used as mini long range bombers if it is configured to carry 3-4 long range cruise missiles tasked to hit targets deep in eastern china . It has a capacity to carry 9-10 tonnes of payload. A lot more better option than chinese H-6 bombers.
That would be the best plan, but putting RAM coating is still a waste of funds and resources.... I hope they would put more funding in optimizingbthe al31f engine instead to add some power when we make it as a mini bomber to rain those chingchongs communist with missiles and glide bombs..... Hopefully they put Uttam radar if they upgraded it into super suhkoi
 
The main point of removing the no first use restriction makes your enemies think as to what extent or how far will India go before it uses its nuclear weapons. It’s that unreliability and uncertainty which aids and contributes to our national security.

Nukes don’t have to be developed and used just as a deterrent. India can easily win a war against Pakistan if they launched a well timed missile on Islamabad and take out the entire Pakistani government and military leadership and command structure which would create more chaos and India can take advantage of that and reclaim POK easily enough and maybe most of the country.
They would have anticipated a decapitation strike like that, and I can assure you every nation with nukes has fail-safes. That said, why on Earth would we want any land of Pakistan except maybe small pieces like bringing Kartarpur into India?
 
Good plan…A few things to consider - 1. India does not have a domestic program for a 4gen twin engine heavy fighter and it is unlikely unless something like ORCA come along which unless is capability wise way better than MKIs is not needed; 2. AMCA will have limited weapons capability; 3. eventually manned-unmanned with a system of systems will be in play and thus we can have a mix of sensors, weapons and stealth amongst many units, lessening the need for pure multi role fighters; 4. given all of these it makes sense to keep MKIs going along with AMCA, Tejas and CATS warriors;
But not only we need upgrades to radar, avionics, weapons which are all on track but also airframe and engines, for which we need to think through…not sure if the airframe can have less RCS with composites and the L-31F engines upgraded or our domestic 130kn engines be fitted to MKIs in 2035…
IAF plans are good and unlike the US and China which have huge budgets we need to think carefully and say by 2040 we will have Rafales, AMCA, MKI and Tejas as core fighters augmented by drones, but say a 1000+ strength.
 
What next? IAF is already operating 2nd Gen MiG 21 when world is shifting to 5th Gen. And now plans to keep 4.5 Gen aircrafts till 2050s when World will move on to 6th Gen and will be developing 7th Gen...

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It's in our roots of the current era that we are always lagging behind on every new trend.... Don't know why our Babu's are still confuse and still sticking their GYATT on old times habit 😹😹😹
 
Sooner or later IAF has to join in ORCA program for replacement of SU-30MKI fleet.. Sooner they join will be good for our country... With 120KN jet engine ORCA will be same category aircraft as SU-30
ORCA and TEDBF is like AMCA always not showing up a working prototype LMAO 😹😹😹😹😹😹
 
Good Ideas, use all the learning from domestic projects to extend and improve MKI to make it future ready, it is a good platform, with improved components consuming less power, and refining the engine would be a great achievement for Indian talent and use of tax money.
 
Yeah just like how north Korea still uses mig 15s from the 1950s.

Truly IAF has become a laughing stock. Don't think even Pak airforce will be so incompetent and stupid.
 
SU-30 need radar evading Plasma coating to zero its radar signatures ! DRDO should develop this coating technology !
Only when we can put SU-30: into Su-57 it can evade the radar, until it has canards there will be huge RCS, only when we delete the canards like in SU-35 we can at-least achieve frontal stealth, AL31F1 and AL41F1 are not stealthy engines either, where as Izdiliye-30 is.
 
They would have anticipated a decapitation strike like that, and I can assure you every nation with nukes has fail-safes. That said, why on Earth would we want any land of Pakistan except maybe small pieces like bringing Kartarpur into India?
We have to sever the China and Pakistan economic corridor because that link allows trade and oil flow easy access to China parallel to Kashmir. That corridor can also bypass the need for China to imports oil through the Indian Ocean where we can strangle their supply if we wanted. So it’s a strategic necessity.

Also there are still a lot of Hindus stuck inside and we need to bring them back home under Indian rule especially the Sindhi region where they are threatened.
 
Still it can be used as mini long range bombers if it is configured to carry 3-4 long range cruise missiles tasked to hit targets deep in eastern china . It has a capacity to carry 9-10 tonnes of payload. A lot more better option than chinese H-6 bombers.
you could also remove the Canards that is unneccassary with Thrust Vectoring Nozzles and make it like SU-35 to achieve frontal stealth with RAM coat, Russians did a thorough analysis of SU-30 and decided Canards are not needed with Thrust vectoring.
 

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