Tejas MkII Poised to Outperform Pakistan's J-10CE and F-16 Block-52

Tejas MkII Poised to Outperform Pakistan's J-10CE and F-16 Block-52


The ongoing regional arms race on the Indian subcontinent is intensifying as Pakistan explores the acquisition of 14 additional Chengdu J-10CE "Vigorous Dragon" multi-role fighters. This move is seen as a potential response to India's acquisition of the Rafale fighter jet, indicating a bid for aerial parity.

While the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) claims the J-10CE is comparable, if not superior, to the Rafale, Indian defence experts are skeptical. They assert that the forthcoming Tejas MkII, an indigenous Indian fighter jet, will not only match but surpass the capabilities of both the J-10CE and the F-16 Block-52, another key fighter in the PAF's arsenal.

Tejas MkII: A Promising Contender​

Officials from ADA highlighted the Tejas MkII's impressive features. Set to enter production by 2028-29, the jet boasts a substantial payload capacity of 6,500 kg (14,300 lb) and an internal fuel capacity exceeding 3,400 kg (7,500 lb). This enables the Tejas MkII to carry a heavier weapons load over longer ranges compared to the J-10CE, enhancing its operational versatility.

In contrast, the Chengdu J-10CE has a maximum external load of 6,600 kg (14,541 lb) and can carry a payload of up to 5,600 kg (12,300 lb) of missiles, bombs, and other equipment. While this is a formidable capability, the Tejas MkII's superior payload management is expected to give it an edge in extensive missions.

Advanced Avionics and Radar Systems​

The J-10CE is equipped with advanced avionics and radar systems, designed to provide robust combat capabilities.

However, the Tejas MkII promises to feature an upgraded Uttam AESA radar system, which is expected to surpass the capabilities of the J-10CE's radar. This advanced radar will offer superior tracking, targeting, and electronic warfare capabilities, enhancing the Tejas MkII's situational awareness and combat readiness.

Armament: A Key Differentiator​

A critical aspect of any fighter jet's capability is its armament. The J-10CE is armed with an array of Chinese-made missiles, including the PL-15E and PL-12 air-to-air missiles. While considered effective, these missiles have limitations in terms of range and targeting capabilities compared to some Western counterparts.

The Tejas MkII, on the other hand, is set to feature a diverse and advanced weapons payload, including the Astra MkII and MkIII missiles, along with the ASRAAM (Advanced Short Range Air-to-Air Missile). These missiles are expected to offer superior range, accuracy, and reliability compared to the PL-15E and PL-12, enhancing the Tejas MkII's combat effectiveness.

Future-Proofing and Indigenous Production​

The Tejas MkII is designed with future-proofing in mind, incorporating advanced technologies that will remain relevant for years to come. Its modular design allows for easy upgrades and integration of new technologies as they become available.

This ensures that the Tejas MkII will remain at the cutting edge of combat aviation technology, providing the Indian Air Force (IAF) with a platform that can adapt to evolving threats and mission requirements.

As the arms race in the subcontinent continues, the Tejas MkII's development and eventual deployment represent a significant milestone for India's defence capabilities. The jet's potential to surpass the capabilities of both the J-10CE and F-16 Block-52 could alter the regional airpower balance, signaling a new era of indigenous fighter jet development in India.
 
One is flying and the other one is still in scale model and pictures, It is better to compare after picture becomes real.
 
Tejas MK2 should also have GaN Based Uttam AESA Radar, Thrust vectoring & Python-5 WVR Missile
 
On paper specs can never be compared to an flying platform. Also going by our procedures of delay the J-10CE would have received mid life upgrades by the time we induct first Tejas Mk2 with present on paper specs.
 
The image provided is a slap on people's face who were doubting whether it can carry 8 -9 BVRAAMS.....count urself..... replace the DT with Meteor because it is available for Tejas mk2 and can be fired from WS4 and WS6.
9 BVRAAM simultaneously carrying capacity 🔥on a single engine fighter
2 More than current record of Gripen E
 
Tejas MK2 should also have GaN Based Uttam AESA Radar, Thrust vectoring & Python-5 WVR Missile
GaA - superior power consumption.
Python 5 available but main stay would be ASRAAM....
Thrust vectoring is unnecessary.
 
J10ce is flying in sky whereas Tejas mk2 is still on paper…. The time mk2 will enter in service, PAK would have chinese 5th gen fighter… and then we would see a similar article comparing AMCA with that🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
By the way, IAF is still waiting for first mk1a !!!! While PAF have already inducted numerous JF17 Block3!!!
 
On paper specs can never be compared to an flying platform. Also going by our procedures of delay the J-10CE would have received mid life upgrades by the time we induct first Tejas Mk2 with present on paper specs.
A very valid point,as the J-10 has been in actual production for quite a while,the Mk-2 is still largely on the drawing board with HAL messing up the production schedule almost guaranteed.
 
The way IAF is moving right now, this is first time in so many years I felt ki ab koi bharat ko beat nahi kr skta.. As an R&D person, I can understand what exactly is going on, how this is going on and why this is going on.. Yes this is frustrating for all keyboard warrior to understand detailed process of R&D and for them multiple things are not going as per their keyboard dreams.. But trust me guys, this time it's really going to create monster👹
 
Untill 2029 tejas mk2 won't be available to India.what if pakistan attacks india with j10ce and china same time with j20 and j35 ?
Solution is in 2025 atleast India shall have tejas mk1A matching j10ce shall become ready .otherwise india will loose 2 front war and even with pakistan as super sukhois are also not ready yet!
 
GaA - superior power consumption.
Python 5 available but main stay would be ASRAAM....
Thrust vectoring is unnecessary.
Meteor & Python-5 Combination will b unbeatable, Choice will b enemies which one they prefer.
 
We should invite Lockheed Martin as tech consultant to make Tejas-AF-MK-II and AMCA as well as ink deal to make 126+ F-36 (-5th gen) fighters and buy 60 F-35s to make IAF strongest in the region
 
We should invite Lockheed Martin as tech consultant to make Tejas-AF-MK-II and AMCA as well as ink deal to make 126+ F-36 (-5th gen) fighters and buy 60 F-35s to make IAF strongest in the region
For the umpteenth time, there is no F-36, unless you have the plans for the same. If you do, share them. If not, please stop making such claims.
 
A very valid point,as the J-10 has been in actual production for quite a while,the Mk-2 is still largely on the drawing board with HAL messing up the production schedule almost guaranteed.
Tejas MK2 is designing by ADA not HAL. HAL's role comes only when it will be ready for production. If IAF demand additional changes then it will again go to ADA and back to HAL with new design. Same as Tejas MK1A
 
PAF prefer F16 blk52 over J10CE because they knew the American product capability. But current economic condition they don't have money to buy F16 and USA is not giving any subsidy to them. So PAF goes to China and China give them J10C which is copy cat jet. not reliable.
 
Tejas MK2 is designing by ADA not HAL. HAL's role comes only when it will be ready for production. If IAF demand additional changes then it will again go to ADA and back to HAL with new design. Same as Tejas MK1A
Wrong. HAL is the manufacturing partner and even participates as a developer in most programs. HAL chairman had given time frames from his side which means it had already reached HAL 5 years back.

No changes have been demanded from IAF in mk2. They asked for rather modest upgrades in Tejas itself. Like an extended fuselage and new engines. It was ADA which went in this fantasy trip.

Similarly, HAL delayed mk1a all on its own. No changes were requested after the deal signing from IAF. Or at least no changes for which it was informed about a stretched timeline were sought.
 
The way IAF is moving right now, this is first time in so many years I felt ki ab koi bharat ko beat nahi kr skta.. As an R&D person, I can understand what exactly is going on, how this is going on and why this is going on.. Yes this is frustrating for all keyboard warrior to understand detailed process of R&D and for them multiple things are not going as per their keyboard dreams.. But trust me guys, this time it's really going to create monster👹
I also have years of R&D experience buddy. And nothing is going as it should be proceeding. This is a complete mess at this stage. Work that should have been over a decade back has been pointlessly stretched.
 
J10ce is flying in sky whereas Tejas mk2 is still on paper…. The time mk2 will enter in service, PAK would have chinese 5th gen fighter… and then we would see a similar article comparing AMCA with that🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
By the way, IAF is still waiting for first mk1a !!!! While PAF have already inducted numerous JF17 Block3!!!
China isn't going to trust Pakistan with such advanced technology because they fear they will sell that technology and they will sell anything like with nuclear weapons to North Korea. The USA would definitely pay money to study the Chinese jet and its technology even further. Also with Chinese technology and equipment it's very unreliable, faulty and defective and can't do what the Chinese claim it can do.
 

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