Why India Preferred TKMS over Navantia for P-75(I) Submarine Project, Proven Stealth and AIP Tech Key Factors

Why India Preferred TKMS over Navantia for P-75(I) Submarine Project, Proven Stealth and AIP Tech Key Factors


India's selection of ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS) over Spain's Navantia for the Project 75-India (P75I) submarine program has generated considerable interest within defence circles. This decision underscores India's focus on advanced stealth technology and enhanced maritime capabilities.

TKMS is offering a next-generation submarine design featuring a faceted hull, incorporating Low Observable (LO) characteristics. This design represents a significant advancement in stealth technology, effectively making it a fifth-generation diesel-electric attack submarine (SSK).

The unique hull shape is designed to deflect sonar signals, significantly reducing the submarine's acoustic and radar signatures, thereby making it more difficult to detect by contemporary anti-submarine warfare (ASW) systems. This innovative approach distinguishes it from traditional submarine designs.

This advanced SSK class, often termed the “stealth version,” integrates state-of-the-art technologies across its propulsion, sensor, and combat systems.

Germany's own order for these submarines, with the first unit currently under construction at TKMS's Kiel shipyard, further validates the design's technological maturity and reliability.

Several key factors influenced India's choice of TKMS over Navantia, including TKMS's proven experience in delivering submarines equipped with air-independent propulsion (AIP) systems. AIP technology is crucial for extending underwater endurance, a critical operational requirement.

TKMS has also tailored its design to meet India's specific operational needs, providing a strategic advantage in the Indian Ocean region, where stealth and extended submerged operations are paramount.

AIP systems allow submarines to stay submerged for longer periods, increasing their operational effectiveness and reducing their vulnerability. While Navantia also offered a competitive bid, TKMS's demonstrated expertise in AIP and stealth technology appears to have been decisive.

The P75I selection also aligns with India's emphasis on self-reliance in defence production. TKMS has committed to transferring technology, which will bolster India's indigenous submarine construction capabilities.

The submarines will be built at Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders Limited (MDL) in collaboration with TKMS. This partnership ensures that India not only acquires advanced naval assets but also develops the expertise necessary for future domestic submarine development.

This decision is viewed by defence analysts as a demonstration of India's strategic foresight in naval warfare. The addition of these advanced submarines to the Indian Navy's fleet will significantly improve India's maritime security posture and enhance its power projection capabilities within the region. This acquisition strengthens India's position at the forefront of naval technology and reinforces its strategic deterrence capabilities.
 
Wow, India showcasing its inability to do things itself and hence choosing German shoulders instead of Spanish shoulders to hop on piggyback and ride on, made Indian defence enthusiasts buzz with excitement, huh?
There is no harm is requesting for and accepting assistance from an ally when they have expertise that is invaluable for Indian progress. If HAL had collaborated with a western aircraft manufacturer then the light and advanced trainer and other aircraft could have been designed, tested and manufactured quicker and cheaper. There is no sense in re-inventing the wheel due to misplaced pride.!!
 
Wow, India showcasing its inability to do things itself and hence choosing German shoulders instead of Spanish shoulders to hop on piggyback and ride on, made Indian defence enthusiasts buzz with excitement, huh?
 
Paradox: with good a nuclear reactor design of submarine sometimes this is even easier than without him - no compromise. Regards...
 
It's a wrong decision to select TKMS over Navantia because, first, the TKMS U212/214 is made using 2010s technology, whereas the Navantia S80+ is based on late 2020s tech. Next, the price has gone up from ₹40,000 to ₹75,000 crore. Also, the requirement of P75I specifies it as a 3,000-ton submarine, whereas the U212/214 is 1,800 tons. This means the submarines will need to be enlarged, and their AIP also needs to be enlarged. Remember, curtailing the size is easy, but enlarging is difficult. A sample is the LCA Navy, which was a bit larger than the LCA AF. The DRDO/ADA/ADE couldn't quite do it properly on time and only managed to customize it for the Navy after foreign help.
I totally agree curtaling size of submarine is easy but enlarging size difficult task, it seems indian navy is not interested in लेटेस्ट tech where as german co is looking difficult तो survive financially
 
It is surprising how people can comment on the decision and make judgments based on their minimal knowledge of the entire programme
This project has been going on for several years and the decision makers are fully aware of the nuances of each proposal. The decision isn’t of a single individual but of an entire consortium with more than adequate capabilities to take such decisions.
So please don’t question the decision and term it as wrong, since no one in this forum neither has the knowledge or capability to fully comprehend the scope of the project or understand the rationale behind the decision
 
Jaydeep,
I hope you know the difference between selection of a technology partner for GtoG contract and competitive bidding.
In a competitive bidding, the selection is made based on the compliance with the stated requirements in the RFP and thereafter by price competitiveness.
are you sure that tkms's Stealth technology and proven track record on AIP were the requirements stated in the rfp?
If you don't know, avoiding misinformation is appreciated...
 
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It is surprising how people can comment on the decision and make judgments based on their minimal knowledge of the entire programme
This project has been going on for several years and the decision makers are fully aware of the nuances of each proposal. The decision isn’t of a single individual but of an entire consortium with more than adequate capabilities to take such decisions.
So please don’t question the decision and term it as wrong, since no one in this forum neither has the knowledge or capability to fully comprehend the scope of the project or understand the rationale behind the decision
Can't agree!
The inability of the decision makers to ensure fair competition and level playing field and equitability appears to be costing over Rs 10,000 crores to the taxpayers...
 

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