Opinion Why India Seeking Stryker, Javelin, & SIG716 From US Despite Having Better Domestic Alternatives

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In a move that has raised eyebrows in India's defence community, the government is in talks to acquire the Stryker Armored Personnel Carrier, Javelin Anti-Tank Guided Missiles, and SIG716 rifles from the United States. The move is perplexing given that India has been making strides in developing its own defence industry, with several domestic alternatives available for these systems.

Defence experts and industry insiders question the urgency of these deals, especially considering that local options are not only more cost-effective but also tailored for Indian terrain and operational needs. The concern is that the Ministry of Defence's preference for American weaponry might be driven more by political considerations than actual defence requirements.

The Stryker APC and Javelin ATGM, while proven systems, are considered by some to be technologically outdated and overpriced. India already has domestically developed options like the Kalyani M4 and Nag ATGM that offer comparable or even superior capabilities.

Similarly, the SIG716 rifle procurement has faced criticism for being an unnecessary and expensive acquisition when Indian manufacturers could provide similar or better systems at a fraction of the cost.

India's defence sector has seen significant growth in recent years, with both public and private players investing heavily in research and development. Companies like Tata Motors, Larsen & Toubro, and Bharat Forge are capable of producing world-class military equipment. Additionally, the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has made considerable progress in developing advanced indigenous systems.

The government's decision to pursue American deals raises questions about whether domestic manufacturers are being given a fair chance to meet the country's defence needs. The growing number of high-profile defence deals with the U.S. signals a strategic alignment between the two countries. However, many experts argue that this increasing reliance on American technology comes at the cost of India's goal of self-reliance in defence.

The Modi government's "Make in India" initiative emphasizes the importance of building a robust domestic defence industry. However, the rush to finalize big-ticket purchases from the U.S. raises concerns that the government's actions might not align with its stated policy objectives.

The potential licensing and local production of U.S. systems in India, while seemingly beneficial in the short term, may also undermine the growth of the Indian defence sector by diverting attention and resources away from indigenous development.

India's defence needs go beyond basic ground combat systems. The military has consistently sought advanced technologies in areas such as cyber warfare, missile defence, and unmanned systems. Experts question why, instead of investing in these critical areas, the government is opting for low-tech equipment that the Indian private sector can already manufacture.

Another major concern is the high cost of U.S. defence equipment. With India's defence budget under pressure, many experts argue that the country cannot afford to spend on foreign-made equipment when cheaper and more effective options are available domestically.

While strategic defence ties with the U.S. offer India access to advanced technology and enhance interoperability with Western forces, there is growing concern that these deals are being made at the expense of India's self-reliance goals. The Modi government faces the challenge of balancing the need to strengthen defence ties with the U.S. while fostering the growth of its domestic defence industry.
 
India should invest in its own industry to grow and develop indigenous defence technologies. Supporting startups by providing mentorship, funding and a chance to showcase their capabilities. Especially school students should be encouraged to bring new innovative ideas. It is possible that their ideas are beyond our thinking, like me.
 
India should not buy weapons it doesn't need from US. Pressure politics will always be there. There's no need to bow because of it.
 
Make all of them in India because no system is perfect We need Javelin,Spike, Stinger,Hellfire to be made in India along with our home made ATGMS and Missiles ! We have seen the performance of S-400 so we should also make THAAD,PAC-III along with KUSHA and SPYDER and AKASH air defence systems ! Upgrade S-400 jointly with Israel for better missile tracking radar system ! And most important China scare of US made defence platforms so better we induct F-35, F-36, F-15 EX-II to supplement AMCA, Tejas-AF-II and Super Su-30MKI to gain air superiority over TAR sky !
 
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Make all of them in India because no system is perfect We need Javelin,Spike, Stinger,Hellfire to be made in India along with our home made ATGMS and Missiles ! We have seen the performance of S-400 so we should also make THAAD,PAC-III along with KUSHA and SPYDER and AKASH air defence systems ! Upgrade S-400 jointly with Israel for better missile tracking radar system ! And most important China scare of US made defence platforms so better we induct F-35, F-36, F-15 EX-II to supplement AMCA, Tejas-AF-II and Super Su-30MKI to gain air superiority over TAR sky !
Hey,
haven't you heard about stuffing too much into your mouth. Multiple systems pose big difficulties such as logistics, compatibility, maintenance nightmares. It's like serving many masters (monsters?) at a time.
 
You need to give something to get something like TOT on GE engines, , nobody gives anything for free, so there will be more purchases.
 
You need to give something to get something like TOT on GE engines, , nobody gives anything for free, so there will be more purchases.
But we are already paying GE for the engines and are not getting them for free. That means US is arm twisting GOI into accepting more purchases from US.
 
But we are already paying GE for the engines and are not getting them for free. That means US is arm twisting GOI into accepting more purchases from US.
This is not buyer seller transaction, I am talking about TOT, it is entirely the OEM Country’s wish whether to offer TOT or not, if they are offering reasonable TOT, they will expect us to buy other things and try to keep us in their sphere, we could call this locking or arm twisting or any other name.
 
While the article gets many specifics wrong (like criticizing the SiG-716I), I do get the basic gist of it, in that India is ordering the wrong American gear.

What India should order -
P-8I, M-777, Chinooks, Potentially even F-35, Local production of SiG-716I instead of AK-203, Quicker production of F-414

What India should avoid for varied reasons -
Patriot/THAAD, HIMARS, Stryker, Javelins, Apache, F-21 aka F-16

While the above gear is great and proven,but it's also expensive and India can steadily produce many alternative systems of its own over time thus leading to avoidable duplication and waste of resources.
I just feel that India should order much more from the US,but should choose it's kit more wisely.
 
This is not buyer seller transaction, I am talking about TOT, it is entirely the OEM Country’s wish whether to offer TOT or not, if they are offering reasonable TOT, they will expect us to buy other things and try to keep us in their sphere, we could call this locking or arm twisting or any other name.
And it still wouldn't guarantee delivery of F414 engines just as F404, inspite of having F404 procurement under priority delivery clause
 
This article is absolute rubbish. First of all India have never said that they want to buy or produce any Stryker or javelin or APC at all and is mainly assuming that India are having these discussions to make it in India when it’s never going to happen.

So far this govt have started many key projects and weapons with some still being developed or undergoing tests and trials but the amount of imports for foreign weapons has reduced a lot and it will continue to decrease unlike when the corrupt jihadi party who increased imports and received a lot of commissions.
 
While the article gets many specifics wrong (like criticizing the SiG-716I), I do get the basic gist of it, in that India is ordering the wrong American gear.

What India should order -
P-8I, M-777, Chinooks, Potentially even F-35, Local production of SiG-716I instead of AK-203, Quicker production of F-414

What India should avoid for varied reasons -
Patriot/THAAD, HIMARS, Stryker, Javelins, Apache, F-21 aka F-16

While the above gear is great and proven,but it's also expensive and India can steadily produce many alternative systems of its own over time thus leading to avoidable duplication and waste of resources.
I just feel that India should order much more from the US,but should choose it's kit more wisely.
P8i is a good purchase but almost every other item in your 'good and bad' list are wasteful and irrelevant.

F35 is overpriced and costly to maintain. GE414/404 are 'delayed' (no surprises), AH64s are delayed, critical components when you need them are held up due to US 'supply chain' problems'. Patriot, HIMARS, Thaad are not just proven paper tigers in Ukraine the THAAD is a wholly unproven system as with almost everything in the NATO arsenal that comes with a dismal 'hit or miss record!

AK 203 is a far better product, more robust, cheaper any day compared to the overpriced Sig. Numerous quality issues have arisen with the Sig.

M777 towed art is not only ancient and Chinooks again are overpriced and costly to maintain. In almost every sphere a Russian infantry assault weapon or Mi/Ka helos are better options but purchasing all these 'Marvel' weapons from the US seems to be the price of maintaining strategic sovereignty.
 

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