Get real.
Saab has already set up a 100% owned company in India to make Karl Gustaf Mk-4 in India.
I do not think any ToT payment will be involved if these planes are made in India by a company that is a 100% owned by Dassault.
French AESA RADAR and METEOR missile are contemporary. UTTAM RADAR and ASTRA Missile Mk 2 and MK 3 are upcoming. So comparing the present and the future does not make any sense.
IAF lost a wonderful opportunity of going for additional Mirage 2000 and Mig 29 when both were offered under ToT to be manufactured in India. IAF is now paying the cost of falling Sqdns. Now IAF and MoD can really look at RAFALE under Made in India. HAL meanwhile can take their own sweet time for manufacturing Tejas MK1 A , MK2 , or whatever variants they want to build and which ever plant they want to.
Observing the history of Dassault it is hard to believe their intentions in making Bharat self reliant. At least,there is no such evidence except to exploit defence marker of Bharat. Equally, Indian side is also faulty in not absorbing ToT . Su-30 mki , HDW and scorpenes submarines deals are glaring examples . Bharat can accept a delay of few years in indigenous platforms but can't rely on foreign suppliers for its critical defence needs . Do you really expect that our notorious defence acquisitions process will deliver MRFA within 10 years?
A Fine Idea. Except with HAL messing up schedules again for both LCA MK2 and AMCA Mk1 they are unlikely to witness induction anytime before 2037 and 2040 respectively. So the question is what happens to our defense posture in the interim, especially when Jaguars are likely to be start phase out by end of 2024 or early 2025.
The number of squadrons are lower than what we like but we are also buying more SAM which gives the area a permanent coverage 24/7 that a jet can't do as they have to keep flying. So our air defence capabilities aren't as weak as some people would like to think.
Sridhar Garu,
India must concentrate on Integrated Air and Missile Defense architecture until enough fighters comes on stream.
SAM cannot replace fighter jets. SAM system are basically for denying enemy aircrafts the freedom to operate in Indian airspace. But jets are required to mount offensive operations which a SAM cannot do.
You can lie , but next year they will make nothing and the next too. Rafale order is in future not present.
Astra 3 is better then meteor.
Uttam has past trials and going into production phase and probably start integration in 2025, Astra 3 is in trials stage.
‘Probably’, ‘trials’….too many uncertainties. So basically the answer is that none of them is anywhere.
I was talking about Gripen, but true.
Well Dassault did a great job of ToT and offsets in the Rafale deal. Same for Scorpene. So the history is rather inspiring.
Astra Mk2 has completed development trials. So, it is pretty close, Astra Mk2 can do most of the job. Only difference will be Astra3 will have slightly longer range due to RAMJET but that is not critical since Astra 2 has 160km range anyways
Astra 3 is likely SFDR. But India has completed development trials of Astra mk2 which is equal to AIM120D and is only inferior to Meteor/ Astra 3 in range. But with 160km range for Astra mk2, it does not matter
Carl Gustaf was already produced by OFB with some royalty fees to SAAB. So, there was no real TOT, just royalty replaced with direct profits
If 100% is not possible, with critical parts not being transferred, it does not make sense to buy them as it will create eternal dependency on spare parts. It will serve no purpose during major wars of attrition and only useful for minor skirmishes
