After Russia Successfully Deploys K-77M BVRAAM on Su-35, India May Consider It For Su-30MKI to Counter China-Pak PL-15

After Russia Successfully Deploys K-77M BVRAAM on Su-35, India May Consider It For Su-30MKI to Counter China-Pak PL-15


Recent visual confirmation shows that Russia has begun arming its Sukhoi Su-35S fighter jets with the new K-77M long-range air-to-air missile, a development that could significantly alter air combat capabilities in South Asia.

This has prompted strategic analysis in India, where the missile is being viewed as a potential upgrade for the Indian Air Force (IAF) Su-30MKI fleet to counter advanced missile systems deployed by China and Pakistan.

A New Generation of Air-to-Air Missile​

The missile, officially known as the K-77M (also R-77M or Izdeliye 180), is a highly advanced weapon developed by Russia's Vympel Design Bureau. It represents a significant leap in capability over its predecessor, the R-77-1.

Open-source intelligence analysts recently highlighted images of the K-77M mounted on a Su-35S engaged in operations, confirming its entry into active service.

Technologically, the K-77M is designed for Russia's most advanced aircraft, including the stealth Su-57 fighter.

Its key innovation is an Active Phased Array Antenna (APAA) seeker, which functions like a miniaturised radar in the missile's nose. This makes the K-77M highly accurate against fast-moving targets and exceptionally resistant to electronic jamming.

Furthermore, a dual-pulse rocket motor allows the missile to conserve energy during flight, enabling it to accelerate in the final phase and engage targets at a reported maximum range of 190 kilometres, a substantial increase from the 110 km range of the older R-77.

The Strategic Imbalance Facing the IAF​

The operational deployment of the K-77M comes at a critical time for the IAF, whose fleet of over 260 Su-30MKI jets forms the core of its air power. These aircraft currently use the R-77 missile, which is now outmatched by the new PL-15 missile used by India's neighbours.

The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has integrated an export version of this missile, the PL-15E, onto its Chinese-made J-10CE and newer JF-17 Block III fighters.

With a range of approximately 145 km, the PL-15E gives the PAF an advantage in beyond-visual-range (BVR) engagements, allowing its pilots to fire on IAF jets from a safer distance. China's own Air Force operates the standard PL-15, which is believed to have an even greater range of over 200 km.

India is developing its own advanced long-range missile, the Astra series. However, the Astra Mk-2 is still in trials, and the more capable Astra Mk-3 is not expected to be widely available for several years. This creates a temporary but dangerous capability gap for the IAF.

A Potential Solution with Challenges​

Acquiring the K-77M for the Su-30MKI fleet could provide India with a powerful counter. Its 190 km range would not only close the gap but could restore the IAF's long-range superiority over the PAF's PL-15E.

Since the Su-30MKI and Su-35S share a similar technological base, integrating the K-77M is considered technically feasible and would create a formidable combination when paired with the Su-30MKI's powerful Irbis-E radar.

However, several obstacles remain. The K-77M appears to be in limited production, and Russia's own military needs may slow down its availability for export.

Integrating a new weapon system onto the Su-30MKI would also require extensive software modifications and flight testing, a process that takes time.

Furthermore, India’s decision will be influenced by geopolitical factors, including international sanctions on Russia and India's own national policy of "Atmanirbhar Bharat," or self-reliance in defence production.

New Delhi must weigh the immediate operational need to counter a clear threat against its long-term goal of developing indigenous defence technologies. The K-77M thus presents itself as a potent, but complex, stopgap solution.
 
Not needed, as the missile itself is yet to prove its worth in Ukraine. Plus, any variant offered by Russia would be an export version, which would be notably downgraded.

Anyway, since the Astra Mk-2 would be ready for induction before the K-77 can even be offered for exports due to Russian commitment in Ukraine, I do not think there is any point in inducting it, even in limited numbers.

Another big factor is that the MKI fleet will be slowly transitioning to the newer Virushka AESA, which would be compatible with newer Indian-made missiles like future Astra variants, etc.
 
Real-world performance in the range of 150 to 170 km for R-77M. The same also applies to PL-15E which has 145 km, meaning it has an effective range of 115 to 125 km. But some fanboys were claiming even 185 to 200 km range for PL-15E. When the actual range of the PL-15 export version which Pakistan used in a recent conflict is 145 km, how can it target a fighter jet beyond its actual range of 145 km?
 
I wonder if any Russian weapon has proven its worth in the Ukraine war. From falling SU-35s to exploding tanks, it has been a tragedy for the Russians.
 
Acquiring both K77M and R37M in limited quantities would ensure safety against China-Pakistan axis till such time our own Astra MK2 & MK3 get ready. May be considered for the SUPER Sukhoi program
 
I wonder if any Russian weapon has proven its worth in the Ukraine war. From falling SU-35s to exploding tanks, it has been a tragedy for the Russians.
True in a way, but the way Russians are using those weapons is just about passable. Plus, the Russians are also facing a vast arsenal of whole NATO kit pitched against them.

Ukrainian morale, Jugaad, and nationalism are quite strong even after 3.5 years of constant fighting and destruction. Zelensky, even though divisive/controversial, has not cracked due to pressure both on the battlefield and in diplomacy.

Plus, many Russian weapons deployed in Ukraine were kind of old souped-up Soviet kit that was not tuned for modern warfare; the same can be said about Russian tactics earlier in the war. Nonetheless, it's good to see India slowly moving away from older Soviet/Russian stuff and inducting newer domestic and Western kit that is more advanced.
 
Say it with me: Astra Mk II and Astra Mk III. That is what we need, and that is what needs to be fast-tracked.
 
Rafel is the costliest dud we have now so back to Su and Migs , we should put Rafels to anti ship operations like Jaguars out of Jamnagar and end this air superiory matter. Anti shipping , it has many proven tools in its kit but air to air, China has failed it.
 
Why r v thinking always for immediate needs and focussing on Pakistan only.V need to not only catch up China but also overtake it by R37 400km range or lora or skystringer missiles.if India overtakes China automatically it will be overtaking pakiatan
 
This long long very long range missile has what meaning flying a jet in combat , when a drone can do the job . Either we are in some WW2 mode and imagining scenerios based on that dog fights era or we find a solution to get rid of fearing BVRM missiles so real missions can be completed in heavily contested air defence network type environment,other wise leave this more jets topic forever and make drones , reducing headache
 
Somthing is totally wrong in air combat planning, where we get hit from one side or other and start planning, far away solution like kids .Some kid playing some video game comes up with these thoughts and not a real man .
 
Everytime we read DRDO ,HAL is equipping SUKHOI MKI with Indian BVR missiles ,nxt day we read some countries Russia,Isreal r offering us advance version .Is it a orchestred staged to keep us dependant forever on others and crush developers. If China can produce why we r always looking towards others , r there ulterior motives or sheer incompetence of developers and lack of accountability on part of beaurucracy.As a lay person It leaves me wondering where our tax payer money is going?
 
Have we seen it fire from the internal bay on the Su-57 that it was redesigned for? We've seen the Su-57 carrying missiles that should have fit internally externally, raising questions.
 
India needs to quickly develop and manufacture 100% of our own indigenous missiles. We need to complete developing the Astra MK1-3 and the Rudram MK1-3 which will stop us from having to make foreign expensive imports. We should also install and integrate all of our indigenous missiles and bombs with all of our other foreign jets.
 
Not needed, as the missile itself is yet to prove its worth in Ukraine. Plus, any variant offered by Russia would be an export version, which would be notably downgraded.

Anyway, since the Astra Mk-2 would be ready for induction before the K-77 can even be offered for exports due to Russian commitment in Ukraine, I do not think there is any point in inducting it, even in limited numbers.

Another big factor is that the MKI fleet will be slowly transitioning to the newer Virushka AESA, which would be compatible with newer Indian-made missiles like future Astra variants, etc.
Yes, true. Possibly R77 designs copied by China already. Astra is the best choice and India should leverage and intense focus will get missiles soon. MICA missiles and reasonably Israel-developed missiles 250 KM in table already for joint production possibilities. For Rafale, MBDA still has not integrated the Meteor 150 KM missiles so far. India should pursue long-term and mid-term goals with a sense of urgency. MoD has given powers to three services already for short-term purchases up to 300 Cr.
 

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