Analysis Can Indigenous Kaveri Engine Meet Urgent AMCA and Tejas Mk2 Timelines, or Foreign OEM Collaboration Essential?

Can Indigenous Kaveri Engine Meet Urgent AMCA and Tejas Mk2 Timelines, or Foreign OEM Collaboration Essential?


India stands at a critical juncture in its decades-long ambition for self-reliance in defence technology, with the future of its advanced fighter jet programs hinging on the development of a powerful, indigenous engine.

According to analysis from defence experts, including former Indian Air Force (IAF) officer Group Captain Ajay Ahlawat (Retd), the domestically developed Kaveri engine is a story of partial success but falls short of powering the nation's next-generation aircraft, forcing a pivotal choice between slower, independent development and faster, foreign collaboration.

The original Kaveri engine program, initiated in 1986 by the Defence Research and Development Organisation's (DRDO) Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE), has successfully produced a functional engine.

While this is a significant achievement, its performance is insufficient for the upcoming Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) and the Tejas Mk2. This capability gap has led to a consensus that a new engine, dubbed "Kaveri 2.0," is essential, sparking a debate on the best path forward to secure India's air superiority.

The Kaveri Legacy: A Foundation Built on Experience​

After nearly four decades of research and development, the Kaveri program has yielded an engine capable of producing approximately 49 kilonewtons (kN) of dry thrust and 78 kN with an afterburner.

This effort, while not meeting the final requirements for the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft it was designed for, has provided India with invaluable experience in complex engine technologies.

Experts note that the program has been instrumental in developing domestic capabilities in single-crystal blades, advanced materials, and blade-cooling techniques.

The engine has undergone extensive testing, including on an IL-76 aircraft in Russia, and a marine variant has been developed for naval ships.

This vast accumulation of data and technical knowledge, achieved at a cost far lower than global benchmarks, provides a solid foundation for future endeavours.

The Thrust Deficit: Why a New Engine is Non-Negotiable​

Modern air combat demands high performance, including the ability to super-cruise—fly at supersonic speeds without engaging fuel-guzzling afterburners.

India’s fifth-generation AMCA and the upgraded Tejas Mk2 are designed to compete with advanced aircraft like China's J-20 and require engines in the 100-130 kN thrust class.

The current Kaveri engine, even with potential upgrades, is projected to peak at around 85 kN. Its core design is considered technologically mature, offering little room for the significant performance gains required.

This reality makes the development of an entirely new engine, or Kaveri 2.0, an urgent necessity to prevent delays in these critical IAF modernization projects.

The Strategic Crossroads: Indigenous Development vs. Global Partnership​

India faces two distinct paths to acquire the necessary engine technology, each with significant strategic implications.

1. Fully Indigenous Development​

This approach would grant India complete ownership of the engine's intellectual property (IP), ensuring total strategic autonomy.

An Indian-made engine could be exported to friendly nations and adapted for other uses, such as industrial power generation, perfectly aligning with the Aatmanirbhar Bharat (Self-Reliant India) vision.

However, this path is fraught with challenges. Experts estimate it could take 10 to 15 years and over $2 billion to develop such an engine from scratch, with a high risk of delays and cost overruns.

2. OEM Collaboration​

Partnering with an established global Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) like Safran (France), General Electric (USA), or Rolls-Royce (UK) offers a faster and less risky alternative.

These companies possess the proven expertise and technology that could deliver a production-ready engine within 7 to 10 years, aligning with the AMCA's projected 2035 production start.

A deal with French firm Safran to co-develop a 110 kN engine is reportedly in advanced stages. Such a partnership would involve significant Transfer of Technology (ToT), building India’s domestic skill base for future projects.

The primary concern remains the extent of sovereign control, as foreign partners could impose restrictions on upgrades or exports.

Balancing Speed, Cost, and Sovereignty​

The final decision rests on balancing immediate operational needs against long-term strategic goals. Delays in engine development directly impact the timelines for the AMCA and Tejas Mk2, which are vital for maintaining a credible defence posture in a challenging region.

The reliance on foreign engines is already a known bottleneck. Supply chain issues with GE's F404 engines have reportedly slowed the delivery of Tejas Mk1A jets to the IAF.

Any future partnership must therefore guarantee India sufficient control over manufacturing and maintenance to avoid similar dependencies.

The recent government approval for a new execution model for the AMCA, allowing for greater participation from the private sector, signals a willingness to adopt flexible and collaborative approaches that could accelerate development.

Ultimately, whether India builds its next-generation fighter engine alone or with a partner, the call to action from defence analysts is clear: the program must be funded and prioritized to ensure the nation achieves true self-reliance in the skies.
 
Oh, that means Kaveri has potential up to 85 kN afterburner. With refining and weight reduction, it can generate thrust up to 90 kN with flat-rated tech. It is enough for Tejas MK1A. Another thing is, it can be integrated on TEDBF too. A 90 kN twin engine for the initial prototype as TEDBF are likely to roll out by 2035. By that time, Kaveri might be ready for induction. A separate program for AMCA 120 kN is underway with a foreign OEM, which is most likely RR and not French Safran or Japanese.
 
I don't understand what is this obsession with partnering with a global OEM when it has become obvious that they are not going to help with the kaveri engines main problem. The core section. The high pressure turbines.

even for the eurofighter typhoons engine the EJ200, Rolls Royce kept the entire core section for itself. Germany spain italy didn't get any know how on that.
 
Kaveri has achieved 49 kN thrust, which is also tested. Reaching 80, 90, 110, or 120 kN will not be a big challenge, but we need some foreign partners for that. Hence, strike the deal and provide the amount which they (foreign OEM) are asking for, to make this engine into reality. Otherwise, India will remain in an engine dilemma for more decades.
 
Fund and develop more engines. Develop a larger industry for jet engines. Make this a high priority. We are depending on Bramhos for 30KN afterburner. This may turn out to be non productive. In parallel, we should develop it ourselves as well.
 
I don't understand what is this obsession with partnering with a global OEM when it has become obvious that they are not going to help with the kaveri engines main problem. The core section. The high pressure turbines.

even for the eurofighter typhoons engine the EJ200, Rolls Royce kept the entire core section for itself. Germany spain italy didn't get any know how on that.
We started Kaveri when we didn't even have the building blocks ready, and that was the major issue with its failure. We didn't have the single crystal blade tech, we didn't have the super alloys that can withstand hot core temperature, and many more. I don't know why GTRE promised an engine when they never had these materials and their technology with them. Now we have many of these technologies available; we should start from scratch, taking private players, research institutes, and GTRE together to work on the common goal of creating an engine which can be used in Tejas MK1A when it's due for MLU in the 2040s.
 
If we partner with a foreign country the only way we can own the IPR and technology is to design, develop and manufacture a completely brand new engine that not even they have developed before.

If we want to develop a indigenous engine then we should start by developing a brand new alternative to the F404 engines as we already have a lot of knowledge and experience while developing the Kaveri engine which has similar thrust and performance requirements.

Also we can scale that up to develop a similar replacement engine to the F414 if we wanted to but if we manufacture 80% of it in India then it will be a waste of time and money trying to create a new engine that’s similar to the F414.
 
We started Kaveri when we didn't even have the building blocks ready, and that was the major issue with its failure. We didn't have the single crystal blade tech, we didn't have the super alloys that can withstand hot core temperature, and many more. I don't know why GTRE promised an engine when they never had these materials and their technology with them. Now we have many of these technologies available; we should start from scratch, taking private players, research institutes, and GTRE together to work on the common goal of creating an engine which can be used in Tejas MK1A when it's due for MLU in the 2040s.
Even now also India does not have material that can withstand the insane pressures and temperatures inside an engine at full throttle. Even if they have it, it's not light enough to get the plane off the ground.
 
We started Kaveri when we didn't even have the building blocks ready, and that was the major issue with its failure. We didn't have the single crystal blade tech, we didn't have the super alloys that can withstand hot core temperature, and many more. I don't know why GTRE promised an engine when they never had these materials and their technology with them. Now we have many of these technologies available; we should start from scratch, taking private players, research institutes, and GTRE together to work on the common goal of creating an engine which can be used in Tejas MK1A when it's due for MLU in the 2040s.
Even though India has the ability to design aircraft engines, it still lacks rare earth metals for manufacturing aircraft engines. BTW: The United States also lacks rare earth metals.
 
This GE, RR, Safran conundrum is going on forever. No clear path forward. Politics most probably.
 
ToT and IP negotiations with foreign engine OEMs are only a delusional mirage. No foreign OEM will ever part with their trade secrets and IP, no matter what the contract says. They will quietly pocket the money and leave us stranded high and dry after ten years of so-called "clean slate development" project. Let's get that straight first!

India is better off pursuing a three-pronged strategy vis-à-vis our indigenous efforts for developing powerplants for our various military airborne platforms:
  1. GTRE's immediate focus should be on the Kaveri-1A that can deliver 84+ KN wet thrust after mating the dry Kaveri core with the Brahmos Aerospace developed afterburner.
  2. GTRE should then shift its focus to developing the Kaveri-2 with an eye on developing a 5+ Gen adaptive engine capable of delivering 125+ KN.
  3. Launch a private consortium-led engine development effort to develop a 6th Gen engine capable of supporting our needs for our 6th gen manned and unmanned platforms.
 

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