Germany's KMW Enters India's MGS Competition with Advanced System and Technology Transfer

Berlin – India and Germany have taken a significant step in strengthening their defence relationship with the recent High Defence Committee (HDC) meeting in Berlin.

During the talks, German defence giant Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW) unveiled a proposal for India’s Mounted Gun System (MGS) tender, positioning itself as a strong contender in the Indian Army's modernization drive.

KMW's AGM Iveco 8x8: Tailored for India's Needs​

KMW's offering for the MGS tender centers around the AGM Iveco 8x8, a wheeled mounted gun system designed to meet the Indian Army's evolving battlefield requirements. Key features of the proposal include:

• Technology Transfer: KMW has pledged to facilitate technology transfer (ToT) for local production and maintenance of the AGM Iveco 8x8. This aligns with India's 'Make in India' initiative, promoting self-reliance in defence manufacturing.
• Enhanced Survivability: Addressing a critical priority for the Indian Army, the AGM Iveco 8x8 boasts robust protection against mines, IEDs, and ballistic threats. This focus on crew survivability reflects the realities of modern combat zones.
• Firepower and Flexibility: The system features a powerful NATO-JBMoU 155mm/L52 main gun within an unmanned Automated Gun Module (AGM), delivering an impressive range of up to 54 km and full 360-degree coverage. This combination ensures both long-range artillery power and tactical adaptability.
• Improved Crew Protection: Taking cues from the PzH 2000 self-propelled howitzer, the AGM Iveco 8x8 features separate crew and operator compartments. This design prioritizes crew safety without sacrificing the system's core artillery capabilities.

The Competitive Landscape​

KMW's proposal enters an already active field of competition for India's MGS tender. India's Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has developed the indigenous ATAGS MGS based on the Tatra 8×8 platform.

Additionally, the recent venture between Adani and Elbit Systems of Israel plans to offer the ATMOS, a proven 155mm/52 caliber truck-mounted howitzer.

Strategic Implications​

The HDC meeting and KMW's proposal highlight the deepening defence cooperation between India and Germany.

This partnership holds the potential to enhance India's defence capabilities while creating opportunities for collaboration in defence technology.

The success of KMW's bid would further solidify Germany's position as a key arms supplier to India.

Conclusion​

India's MGS tender is a crucial element in its armed forces modernization program. The choice of a new mounted gun system will impact the Indian Army's artillery capabilities for decades to come.

The proposals from KMW, DRDO, and others signal a competitive race, with each offering distinct advantages and technology transfer prospects. The outcome will reshape India's defence posture and potentially solidify strategic partnerships.

 

[Satya Dev]

No need to import any artillery gun - also need to keep out the crony private sector companies with screw driver assembly plants & charging exorbitant profit margins under fake ATMANIRBHAR schemes.

 

[Pink Panther]

How many mounted gun systems.

 

[Frank]

Say bye bye to Indian MGS... Adani screw driving is coming under IDDM..

Atmanirbhar another jumla by Feku

 

[kumar]

If imported, then it will be black mark on atmanirbhar bharat.

 

[DEVESH]

When kalyani group has such good gun systems y do we need to imporr those thingsethings like anti drone system that we need to import, we r trying to make it ourselves. Those weapons that we already have we r trying to import. Great

 

[ABHIJIT APSINGIKAR]

No need to import any artillery gun - also need to keep out the crony private sector companies with screw driver assembly plants & charging exorbitant profit margins under fake ATMANIRBHAR schemes.

I am fine if they are crony and just assemble it, provided they do it efficiently and deliver on time. Given the colorful track record of erstwhile OFB, anything is more acceptable, even if its controlled by private sector.

 

[NSR]

Looks good and comes with lots of goodies too.

But wait a minute, We already has MGS, TGS, etc and why do we need this German Howitzer?
India also has K9 Vajra too and it can order 200 more to get its gun technology.

So go with Indian Malls only unless there is an overriding need for this expensive Howitzer.
Only God knows what is in the fine prints.

 

[Superpower Bharat]

I am fine if they are crony and just assemble it, provided they do it efficiently and deliver on time. Given the colorful track record of erstwhile OFB, anything is more acceptable, even if its controlled by private sector.

ATAGS MGS will be manufactured by Kalyani or TATA not an OFB.. I choose this option.

 

[ABHIJIT APSINGIKAR]

ATAGS MGS will be manufactured by Kalyani or TATA not an OFB.. I choose this option.

key word designed by DRDO. Produced by TATA and Kalyani. Besides during the early trials, the ATAGS failed because of the spurious ammo supplied by OFB, which kept blowing up in the chamber and destroying the barrel tubes.

 

[De_SECULARISED]

Just ignore n focus on our indigenous options.

 

[Apocalypse gupta]

Say bye bye to Indian MGS... Adani screw driving is coming under IDDM..

Atmanirbhar another jumla by Feku

Blame the army which is addicted to phoren maal. Govt is committed to atmanirbhar, just look at other sectors

 

[Apocalypse gupta]

Germans have offered this, does not mean india will buy it or is considering to buy it. Any one can offer anything. No restrictions on that. I believe there is no chance of army buyimg it. But, alarm bells should go off, if army starts trials for foreign artillery systems.

 

[Siddharth Asthana]

When a foreign player is willing to offer doestic manufacturing (not assembly) it means we already either have developed something similar or about to ....EU folks have played this jumla for past 70 years....read autobiography of Kalam, he gave numerous examples...and the habit continues...i think the best Indian response to Germany would be.......

"No thank you...we dont need this, but btw, we have something similar for half the price..do you want to buy?"

 

[Radha Ramanan]

typical of the west germans .. when we have developed or capable of doing our own system they will come forward with all sorts of proposals to destroy our capability and make money as well. germany is a leftist woke country that never helped and gave us arms. they voted against us in human rights forum etc..they even stopped the supply of hk mp-5 and its variants. we went for the swiss B& T mp9 which is as good and more modern. Never trust them.

 

[Sangram]

Atmanirbhar another jumla by Feku

Yeah blame a faku when scamgress track record is buying foreign mall from meddle dalla scam money 🤑.

 

[Aravind Raveendran]

Please don't tell me we can't make this on our own. Stop importing things we can make .

 

[Jay K Sinhal]

What happened to the MGS developed by Bharat Forge on request from the late General Bipin Rawat.

 

[jerry leen]

Germans would turn off taps based on their whims and fancies just like other defense procurement.

 

[Sandeep]

Currently India has developed or close to developing its own indigenous MGS based on the ATAGS so we don't need to buy any foreign expensive guns with expensive upkeep. We have developed a integrated auto loading gun on a truck and it's going through a lot of tests and trials and it's almost ready for production. India shouldn't order any foreign guns as we have the indigenous capability, knowledge and expertise to build our own MGS.

With the war in Ukraine it has shown that we need more mounted guns or with the ability to shoot and scoot like the ATAGS that we have developed as stationary guns are at risk of being destroyed by kamikaze drones or artillery fire. The main benefit of the ATAGS is that it has the longest range in the world which gives us a major advantage over all other guns.

 

[alpha numeric]

Considering that it's the Germans, no opportunity for a ToT should be disregarded.

 

[alpha numeric]

I am fine if they are crony and just assemble it, provided they do it efficiently and deliver on time. Given the colorful track record of erstwhile OFB, anything is more acceptable, even if its controlled by private sector.

OFBs were a living embarrassment and a stain on India's defense industrial sector if not on the entirety of our industrial sector. We can only hope that their incompetence and embedded inferiority has somehow evaporated post corporatisation. I won't hold our hope though, it's still under a siloed ministerial fiefdom. No matter what we refuse to learn that parasitic decentralisation of executive authority is a fundamental threat to operational efficacy. The Koreans and the Chinese both had powerful executives that could drive and discipline their defence industrial setup. Very we countries can afford to throw bottomless capital at a problem like the decentralised Americans. We certainly can't.

 

[Arun]

This ordinary looking field gun built on 8x8 chassis does not need foreign collabration, unless India wants to remain permanently dependent on foreign guns.

 

[ABHIJIT APSINGIKAR]

OFBs were a living embarrassment and a stain on India's defense industrial sector if not on the entirety of our industrial sector. We can only hope that their incompetence and embedded inferiority has somehow evaporated post corporatisation. I won't hold our hope though, it's still under a siloed ministerial fiefdom. No matter what we refuse to learn that parasitic decentralisation of executive authority is a fundamental threat to operational efficacy. The Koreans and the Chinese both had powerful executives that could drive and discipline their defence industrial setup. Very we countries can afford to throw bottomless capital at a problem like the decentralised Americans. We certainly can't.

I am not too sure about that. Just as it's neigh impossible to straighten a dog's tail and likewise it's nigh impossible to introduce professional work culture to an atrophied organization that served no other purpose other than being a hotbed of obstructionist communist political trade unionism especially in Indian context.

Its work culture at erstwhile factories is rotten beyond measure and is beyond redemption in most cases. granted there are some odd units such as the one in Medak, Telangana that are relatively better and deserve to be saved, but for the most part they are just a major liability that has never ever lived up to its potential.

 

[charminar_waale_ismail_bhai]

What happened to the MGS developed by Bharat Forge on request from the late General Bipin Rawat.

Being exported to Armenia. Apparently IA is not certain yet if it can survive without imported maal.

 

[desigandu]

No foreign maal except the P-75Is (Type 212 CDE with AIP) with full TOT, MRO, spares, Exports and enhancement capability, from Germany.

 

[desigandu]

India should insist Germany change its exports control laws for India, else no business...

 

[Bhupesh Desai]

Why India wants to buy from this double standards country as it is was unwilling to supply tank engines.

 

[Agent Provocateur1]

Apart from this we need KMW the original designer of tbe Arjun MBT to fix the issues of weight, more powerful main gun. Most importantly use the Arjun Chassis to mount Pzh2000 Turret on it for our own SPH. So we don't have to buy from Korea.

KMW should also design FICV out of the Arjun allowing us to have commonality in spares, maintenance, training etc.

Germany must also share with us non magnetic hull tech for submarines with their heavy torpedo.

 

[Rajsn]

What a Joke. Same country that refused to give Engines for New Tanks ......can't trust them.!!!