Analysis How India Could Transform AMCA into Heavy Multirole Fighter with Russian Twin AL-51F/177S Engines, But Challenges Remain

How India Could Transform AMCA into Heavy Multirole Fighter with Russian Twin AL-51F/177S Engines, But Challenges Remain


As India advances its flagship fifth-generation fighter program, the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA), a strategic debate is emerging over its future direction.

A proposal to develop a variant using powerful Russian AL-51F/177S engines is gaining attention, suggesting a path for transforming the aircraft into a heavier, more capable stealth fighter.

While this approach could provide a powerful backup to the current plan and counter regional threats, it also presents significant technical and financial hurdles.

The AMCA is being developed by the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) as a 25-tonne class, twin-engine stealth aircraft to form the future backbone of the Indian Air Force (IAF) and Navy.

The current roadmap, approved by the Cabinet Committee on Security with a budget of approximately ₹15,000 crore for initial development, involves two phases.

The initial AMCA Mk1 version will be powered by American General Electric F414 engines. The more advanced Mk2 is slated to use a more powerful 110-kilonewton (kN) engine, to be developed indigenously in collaboration with a foreign partner, likely France's Safran. Mass production is currently projected to begin after 2035.

The alternative concept involves integrating Russia's AL-51F/177S engine, currently in development for aircraft like the Su-57. This engine, a product of Russia's United Engine Corporation, reportedly offers a substantial thrust of around 142 kN.

Proponents argue that incorporating this powerhouse engine could allow India to develop a heavier AMCA variant. Such an aircraft would possess superior speed, agility, and a larger weapons payload, effectively creating a heavy multirole fighter to complement the standard AMCA.

This becomes strategically important as India seeks to maintain air superiority in a region where China operates its J-20 stealth fighter and may supply the similar J-35 to Pakistan.

Strategic and Operational Benefits​

A parallel development using Russian engines could offer several advantages.

Firstly, it would act as a strategic safeguard against potential delays in the indigenous engine program. The history of India’s Kaveri engine project, which faced a prolonged and challenging development cycle, underscores the risks of relying on a single, yet-to-be-developed propulsion system. The Russian engine offers a proven, high-thrust alternative that could ensure the program's momentum.

Secondly, the significantly higher thrust of the AL-51F/177S could enable the creation of a platform dedicated to deep-strike and air dominance missions. A heavier airframe could carry a much larger payload, increasing its internal and external weapons capacity well beyond the current design. This would provide the IAF with a modern replacement for its aging fleets of Mirage 2000, Jaguar, and MiG-29 aircraft, filling a critical gap for a high-performance fighter jet.

Finally, this approach could create industrial and technological synergies. Collaborating with Russia on the advanced engine, which features systems like Full Authority Digital Engine Control (FADEC), could provide valuable technology transfer.

Furthermore, if India also proceeds with the "Super Sukhoi" upgrade for its large Su-30MKI fleet, using a similar family of engines for both programs could create efficiencies in manufacturing, maintenance, and supply chains.

Significant Hurdles and Considerations​

Despite the potential, this path is fraught with challenges. The AMCA's airframe and its critical stealth features, such as the diverterless supersonic intakes (DSI), have been meticulously designed around the dimensions and thrust of the GE F414 and the planned 110 kN engine.

Integrating a larger and more powerful Russian engine would not be a simple swap; it would demand a substantial redesign of the aircraft's structure. Experts estimate such a redesign could set the program back by four to five years, negating many of the benefits.

The financial implications are also considerable. Developing a separate variant would require massive additional funding beyond the already allocated budget. This could strain the nation's defence resources and potentially divert funds from other critical modernisation projects, such as the Tejas Mk2 and the Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter (TEDBF) for the Navy.

Furthermore, committing to a Russian engine raises geopolitical questions. India's current policy of Aatmanirbhar Bharat emphasizes indigenous development and diversified partnerships with Western nations.

Over-reliance on Russian technology could create long-term vulnerabilities in the supply chain, particularly in a shifting global political landscape. This move would run counter to the strengthening strategic partnerships with the United States and France on the primary AMCA program.

Ultimately, while the prospect of a heavier, more powerful AMCA is compelling, the practical realities suggest a more cautious approach. The technical, financial, and strategic obstacles are immense.

A more pragmatic path may be to focus all resources on accelerating the indigenous engine development with Safran, while perhaps exploring the Russian engine solely for the Su-30MKI upgrade, thereby securing India's ambitious fifth-generation fighter program without risking its timeline and strategic focus.
 
Don't we need a VCE for stealth capabilities? Especially when adversary radars and BVRs are getting more sophisticated with their targeting...
 
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Russia has titanium but the country in name of rare earth ,that uses it is USA, and Europe , so make some innovative approache and use this engin , make the plane and fly it . Who says all jets have been a successful venture so move on and ahead.
 
AMCA is touted as 5th gen fighter but few articles have stated its a 5.5 gen fighter class. Whatever it is I read an article couple of days ago that GTRE has decided to go with indigenous fighter engine for AMCA but it is searching for ideal foreign partner to collaborate to produce an advanced technology 6th gen fighter engine. Here I read that foreign partner to collaborate on AMCA engine most likely will be Safran. My question is why Indian PSU's is always leaning towards French connection 🤔. Why not collaborate with others like RR and Japanese IHI XF9-1 who have long years of knowledge and experience in aircraft engine manufacturing. However, I would expect a foreign partner who is willing to full ToT and IPR because India is paying for the collaboration so I believe in the best interest of make in India initiatives. About financing AMCA Engine project Indian government should not be unnecessarily prudent to finance one time effort to gain valuable knowledge and experience in producing advanced technology engines.
 
Bharat must choose Engine Manufacturers who have been result oriented, have proven products and willing to transfer 100% ofthe technology without any holdback clauses. French do not do that. Russian latest engine is unproven.So are the Japanese. Americans cannot be trusted. LOGICALLY IT LEAVES ONLY ROLLS ROYCE. MAYBE BHARAT GOVERNMENT IS BLIND TO THIS FACT...
 
Amca 2 with high powered dual engines with Russian or RR must be designed in such a way with private players to incorporate Direct thermal weapons lasers which need high power and can obliterate drones or aircrafts with cheaper kill power .This should be the future model as missiles will be costlier .With high powered engines and no costs in terms of using laser powered weapons ,this could beva game changer.
 
Japanese engine is really powerful, and they are trustworthy as well. So for AMCA's engine collaboration, they are also a strong candidate now.
GE & Safran are not trustworthy, on the other hand RR and Japanese IHI should be the better choice.
 
Speculations, individual thought process and ideas are giving a good recipe for vegetable soup. On one hand GTRE says they are almost developed 5th gen engine, but has no takers. Other hand AMCA is a 5th gen aircraft and wants to go for foreign collaboration. Is India & IAF is indecisive. By the time India takes a decision on 6th gen, world would have moved to 7th gen. What an idiotic theories and babudom?
 

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