Analysis How Replacing GE F404 Engine on Tejas Mk1A Fighters Could Take 5 to 7 Years of Airframe Redesign and Testing

How Replacing GE F404 Engine on Tejas Mk1A Fighters Could Take 5 to 7 Years of Airframe Redesign and Testing


With the Indian Air Force facing significant delays in receiving its Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas Mk1A fleet due to the slow delivery of General Electric (GE) F404-IN20 engines from the United States, public debate has naturally shifted toward finding alternative powerplants.

However, according to an experienced former engineer from Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), swapping the current GE engine for another option is far from a quick fix.

Speaking anonymously, the aerospace expert revealed that integrating a different engine would demand extensive airframe redesigns, essentially resulting in the creation of a completely new variant of the fighter jet.

In modern aerospace engineering, an aircraft's engine is much more than just a source of forward thrust; it acts as the core of the entire platform, dictating its overall shape, capabilities, and safety.

For an advanced fly-by-wire fighter like the Tejas Mk1A, the chosen powerplant directly influences the aircraft's weight distribution, structural stress points, air intake requirements, heat management, and the complex software that keeps the jet flying smoothly.

The former HAL official clarified that the Tejas Mk1A’s physical structure was custom-tailored specifically around the GE F404-IN20 engine. Choosing a different engine would mean overhauling several vital aerodynamic and internal systems.

For instance, the jet's air intakes are shaped to capture the exact volume and pressure of air that the GE engine requires.

An alternative engine, which would naturally pull in air at different rates, would force engineers to completely redraw and manufacture new intake channels to prevent critical issues like airflow disruption or engine stalling.

Beyond aerodynamics, the physical way the engine connects to the aircraft would need a drastic redesign. The internal structural mounts must be rebuilt to handle the specific vibrations, weight, and force generated by a new engine.

Furthermore, the electronic brain of the engine—the Full Authority Digital Engine Control (FADEC)—would require a complete software rewrite to guarantee it can communicate perfectly with the Tejas’s main mission computers and digital flight controls.

The rear section of the fighter would also face major structural changes. Because different jet engines have varying nozzle sizes, exhaust heat levels, and thrust outputs, the rear fuselage would need to be re-engineered with new heat shields and strengthened structural frames.

Even the aircraft's internal fuel delivery lines and cooling systems would have to be adjusted to manage the unique temperature and operational demands of a different engine.

Such a massive engineering overhaul would trigger a long and demanding certification journey.

The veteran engineer estimated that just the initial computer-based design and simulation phase—analyzing aerodynamics, structural strength, and heat distribution—could take up to 18 months.

This would be followed by another year and a half of rigorous ground tests to ensure the new engine does not cause dangerous vibrations or compatibility issues within the airframe.

Following these ground checks, the most time-intensive phase would begin: actual flight testing.

A re-engined Tejas would need to complete anywhere from 300 to 500 hours in the air under extreme conditions, evaluating everything from high-altitude performance to high-speed turns and weapons carriage.

In total, achieving Initial Operational Clearance (IOC) for this heavily modified jet would take an estimated five to seven years.

Testing would also stretch far beyond just making sure the engine works. Engineers would need to verify that a shift in the aircraft's centre of gravity does not make the jet structurally unstable during combat manoeuvres.

Crucially, because a new engine changes the way air flows over the wings and fuselage, every single weapon carried by the Tejas would have to be tested all over again.

Missiles like the Astra, precision bombs, and upcoming weapons such as the BrahMos-NG would need fresh safety certifications to ensure they can be released safely without colliding with the aircraft.

The former HAL professional stressed that public discussions often ignore these harsh engineering realities when suggesting quick replacements.

For example, while the French Safran M88 is a highly capable engine that successfully powers the Rafale fighter, placing it inside the Tejas would still require massive modifications to the aircraft's body due to its different dimensions and technical architecture.

Similarly, while India's homegrown Kaveri engine remains a critical piece of the nation's long-term goal for defence self-reliance, it is currently focused on a separate development path aimed at powering unmanned drones, such as the Ghatak UCAV, with certification milestones targeted around 2026.

The Kaveri has not yet reached the strict reliability metrics and operational standards required for a frontline manned fighter jet, making it an unviable immediate replacement.

Ultimately, navigating the current supply chain hurdles with GE, rather than redesigning the aircraft, remains the only practical path forward for the current Tejas Mk1A programme.
 
Kaveri engine is still under development and it is always focused for Tejas as such focusing it's development to resemble GE engines in all aspects is the ultimate solution that will require no further modifications in Tejas if required by opting to reverse engineering the difference or atleast by outsourcing the essential components
 
Not impossible. If China could, India can.
What surprises Chinese people the most is the confidence of Indians. China has built its own space station, high-speed rail, early warning aircraft, and fighter jets; DJI has a global market share of 70% for civilian drones, over 68% for new energy vehicles, 90% for the photovoltaic industry chain, and 69% for shipbuilding orders worldwide. What does India have?
 
Blame HAL and DRDO/ADA for this.

GE warned them the 404 is already retired product and go for 414 repeatedly.

Dork brauns will remain dork for ever. Retrograde Saturn for GTRE and HAL.
 
DRDO may utilize an older Tejas prototype to test the Kaveri engine which is correct, however, this highlights a standard aerospace practice that serves a completely different engineering purpose than fleet integration. To clarify why a production-level engine swap remains a 5-to-7-year airframe challenge, we must separate engine validation from platform weaponization. Your comment conflates a Flying Test Bed (FTB) with a Production-Ready Combat Aircraft. While DRDO may use an older Tejas prototype to test the Kaveri engine, flying an engine on an aircraft to gather data is entirely different from certifying an airframe around an engine for wartime operations. Using a legacy airframe to validate the Kaveri engine is a standard development step, but it does not bypass the mandatory 5-to-7-year structural and aerodynamic redesign required for full fleet deployment.
the engine may require several hundred hours of airborne testing in order to certify it. That’s not in dispute. What is being questioned is the assertion that the airframe will have to be modified in order to put the engine in a production aircraft. Because the Kaveri was always meant for the Tejas. The 404 was used because the Kaveri was not ready in the relevant timeframe. Kaveri is similar enough, that once certified, it can be used as a drop in replacement for the 404.

The more important question that the article and the concerned official didn’t answer. Is the thrust of the engine enough for it to be integrated into the Tejas without any performance degradation in the aircraft?
 
This is what you get for trusting thd west. The Rafale is not much of an fighter acraft. Anc it's tech is dated. Out of kindness wechave acceptedvan aircraft that cannot even retracf it's refueling snorkel. All the delays benefit the foreign suppliers. With the IAF constantly advertising of depleted squadron strength. We should go in only for Russian engines, with 3D thrust vectoring, suket cruise and robust enought to take bird hits. Hope good sense prevails. Jai Bharat Jai Hind.
Well, India looked at Russian, US, Swedish, European and French fighters. Eurofighter and Rafale met requirements. The others did not.
 
what is stopping them for the simulations to be done now..you can do the simulations ..dont add the time line of simulation..as it can be done without engine being running ..only you need to set the boundary condition.need to ask that guy how much reall experience he have on product development..
Hindi speaking Indians who dominate the Ministries of Delhi are corrupt, have extremely low IQ so lack basic common sense. Since the 1970s they have been manipulated by wily So. Indians who control India’s weapons production ( both the factories and R&D, as since the debacle of 1962 they had been located in the South to keep them far away from the hostile borders in the North and out of range of enemy Bombers ) w/ big promises ( the Arjun tank, LCA, AMCA, … ) none of which have panned out. All that these So. Indians are interested in is feathering their own nest at the expense of rest of India. When it comes to its original intent, that is developing credible weapons domestically, Bengaluru is a Sponge & a FAILURE. Had suggested way back in 1985 that the LCA ( MiG 21 replacement to counter Pakistan’s then new F 16s from the U.S. ) be designed still using the proven Tumansky R 11 engine instead of waiting for a new Kaveri engine. But this was rejected by the Southern monkey Kota Harinarayana, the leader of the LCA project, who picked wrong airframe too for the LCA 1 ( copied just the delta wing of the Swedish Viggen but left the Canard foreplanes out though I had insisted on it, but 40 yrs later Canards are being added to the Tejas Ii by the monkeys of ADA, now that they have seen on the Rafales ea. costing $280 million ! The Tejas II must be immediately re designed w/ the Russian AL ( Lyulka ) engines in production in India for its Sukhoi 30s. The airframe should like the latest Swedish Gripen, primary task of the Tejas II still being NOT Ground Attack but Local Area Air Defense and Air Superiority !
 
IIt is best to keep private players out of critical sn core areas of defense.
State-owned players have taken 40 years to nearly deliver a light fighter meeting requirements.

Great recommendation for keeping private players out!
 

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