IAF Prepares for RudraM-III Air-to-Surface Missile Trials on Su-30 MKI Aircraft

[Akshat]

Yeah that's what I did- distance from the airbase to the target.

It’s an air launched missile, not land based. The plane won’t fire it from the airbase itself.

Secondly, the closest airbase to Lahore is Amritsar. ~60 km away.

Bol Bol. Let’s see how much you can entangle yourself,

 

[Ashutosh]

Well, you wouldn't be launching the missile as soon as the aircraft took up from Jodhpur, would you?

Why can't I do that😁!? Its always comfortable to stay away as far as possible from the den.

 

[Ashutosh]

Secondly, the closest airbase to Lahore is Amritsar. ~60 km away.

Nearest airport station!? Seriously!?
Nearest Su 30 bases- Halwara( 200kms from Lahore)
Jodhpur (600kms from Lahore)

From where would you launch ur Rudram 3 - Halwara!?
Or Jodhpur!?

Amritsar AFS have Su 30s right!?

 

[Ashutosh]

Comprehension skills reached nadir finally?

Kya connection hai mere statement ka!? Abe kabhi exposed kabhi comprehension - koi bimari vimari hai kya tujhe!?

 

[Akshat]

Jodhpur (600kms from Lahore)

Again, you mentioned border, not airforce station. Missiles are not launched from airforce stations. And you didn’t mention airforce stations with Su30 either. And as you yourself mentioned, we have stations within 200 km which operate the relevant planes. And what matters is that Lahore is bombed (when need be). Amritsar base can give other planes with other bombs or missiles, which can be used.

So from no angle this comment would matter.

 

[Jay K Sinhal]

They are getting progressively more dependant on su 30s while numbers of su 30s are decreasing due to attrition. They need to replenish the lost aircraft and add some more marked for special purpose like Brahmos carrier etc.

 

[Akshat]

koi bimari vimari hai kya tujhe!?

Kami tere andar hai. Baar baar expose hota rehta hai. Khud ko improve kar why blame me

 

[The_rED_dEVIL]

How so bro?

Give a type of missile which DRDO has neither developed nor developing...
Air to Air? Surface to Air? Ballistic? Cruise? Anti Ship?

Now dont blame DRDO if a system is not ordered... that is the fault of MoD or Armed forces.

 

[Akshat]

Give a type of missile which DRDO has neither developed nor developing...
Air to Air? Surface to Air? Ballistic? Cruise? Anti Ship?

Now dont blame DRDO if a system is not ordered... that is the fault of MoD or Armed forces.

Who shall we blame if the product doesn’t work? Else I can also make a starship. Only when induction happens can a product be called successful. Talk only about those. Not failures like Nag, Nirbhay etc.

 

[Superpower Bharat]

Can you name 3 projects in the last decade which DRDO delivered on time?

Can u name 3 high end technology developed in last decade by any pvt. Companies on there own

 

[Superpower Bharat]

Who shall we blame if the product doesn’t work? Else I can also make a starship. Only when induction happens can a product be called successful. Talk only about those. Not failures like Nag, Nirbhay etc.

Except few low end product are there any high end product develop by any pvt company inducted in armed Forces...????

 

[The_rED_dEVIL]

Not failures like Nag, Nirbhay etc.

Which missile didnot work? And who told Nag is a failure? It has already cleared all trials and everything including improved variant.
Army even operates Nag missile alonf with NAMICA tank destroyers.

 

[Akshat]

Can u name 3 high end technology developed in last decade by any pvt. Companies on there own

Can you name 3 tenders with high end tech which were kept open to private companies with funding commitment?

 

[Akshat]

Except few low end product are there any high end product develop by any pvt company inducted in armed Forces...????

Which tenders are open for them in this category?

 

[Akshat]

Which missile didnot work? And who told Nag is a failure? It has already cleared all trials and everything including improved variant.
Army even operates Nag missile alonf with NAMICA tank destroyers.

Nirbhay was a colossal failure. Astra took 2+ decades. Nag has failed trials and only helina has been given some orders as a consolation. Astra 2 and 3 have been under development and haven’t yet even been tested.

 

[Ashutosh]

Again, you mentioned border, not airforce station. Missiles are not launched from airforce stations. And you didn’t mention airforce stations with Su30 either. And as you yourself mentioned, we have stations within 200 km which operate the relevant planes. And what matters is that Lahore is bombed (when need be). Amritsar base can give other planes with other bombs or missiles, which can be used.

So from no angle this comment would matter.

First u agree with me, now u r disagree. ?

Anyway, what is more comfortable position for Rudram 3 launch!?
Ofcourse it's jodhpur unlike Halwara AFS which is too near the border. From where would you exploit the standoff capabilities the most- Jodhpur AFS.
So if kept easily - Rudram 3 can target Lahore back from Jodhpur.

In real war scenarios, forward airbases would be more bothered about BAI and CAS and bases like Jodhpur with no problems can release standoff weapons and strike deep.

 

[Ashutosh]

Kami tere andar hai. Baar baar expose hota rehta hai. Khud ko improve kar why blame me

Abe tere is statement ki kya relevance hai?

 

[Anant]

Why can't I do that😁!? Its always comfortable to stay away as far as possible from the den.

True, but launching a missile from a distance that is farther than necessary also reduces your strike range.

Of course, if yoy have to hit military installations near Lahore, we can strike from deep within India. However, it would also be useful to hit a target that is, say, 450-500 kilometers West if Lahore (assuming that point is still in Pakistan, mind you).

 

[Akshat]

Abe tere is statement ki kya relevance hai?

Your statement- “ will u launch ur standoff weapons from borders or from back within ur territory - Lahore is far inside if we would real battle circumstances.”

My response -“ For any weapon, when firing, you stay one-third of the range within your border. So the 600 km missile can fire 400 km inside Pak border.”

If you still can’t understand the relevance, again, your comprehension skills will be…well, exposed

 

[The_rED_dEVIL]

Nirbhay was a colossal failure. Astra took 2+ decades. Nag has failed trials and only helina has been given some orders as a consolation. Astra 2 and 3 have been under development and haven’t yet even been tested.

The development of Nirbhay started in 2010-11, first test in 2013. The programme did stall for some issues because it is going to be totally indigenous (including propulsion). But it evlolved into missiles like LRLACM and SLCM, they are now performing perfectly and are under tests.

As for Astra missiles, Mk 2 and 3 has already begun testing. Mk 3's Solid Fuel Ducted Ramjet (SFDR) test is successful along with the missile... Mk 2 has also been tested successfully.

Nag missile has failed only one test back in 2011, and has never succeeded since then. These 1-2 failures may happen, even ISA's Trident Ballistic missile has failed twice in a row recently, reported by BBC.

What next?

 

[Ashutosh]

If you still can’t understand the relevance, again, your comprehension skills will be…well, exposed

Abe Jab war hogi to Halwara AFS vale CAS, BAI ke bare Mai sochege ki deep penetration ki.

Itni si simple baat hai. Its not like Pakistanis will understand when the war will start-Ah yeah - this fighter is within its territory , we shall not engage it. Jitne door se standoff capabilities use kar sakte ho utna behtar but nhi, ham to obsolete cheeze bolege, one can stay 1/3rd inside.

 

[Akshat]

First u agree with me, now u r disagree. ?

Anyway, what is more comfortable position for Rudram 3 launch!?
Ofcourse it's jodhpur unlike Halwara AFS which is too near the border. From where would you exploit the standoff capabilities the most- Jodhpur AFS.
So if kept easily - Rudram 3 can target Lahore back from Jodhpur.

I never agreed with your rubbish. You made a statement, I poked holes in the statement.

Tell me simply. Would the plane get in air and directly fire the missile right from the airbase? In fact, just to reach the launch altitude the plane would have gone a long way away, and will have to turn around to come back to the airspace over the airbase.

And it is again false to assume that the Halwara station won’t be preferred. Far away bases are used when you have a lot of time to plan.

So in real war scenario, even planes launched from Jodhpur won’t fire the missile right from Jodhpur but will come closer to LOC so that the missile itself has to fly less, thus allowing more payload and lower response times,

 

[Ashutosh]

So in real war scenario, even planes launched from Jodhpur won’t fire the missile right from Jodhpur but will come closer to LOC so that the missile itself has to fly less, thus allowing more payload and lower response times,

🤦u r just proving my statement right - its a given plane has to fly a good distance to reach the flight altitude so what would be more preferable base to fly with Rudram to exploit it's standoff capabilities, forward bases like Halwara AFS or Jodhpur!?

One more point, at the time of war- what exactly will be the forward bases of Amritsar and Halwara would be doing?

Firing standoff weapons or achieving CAS, BAI?

There is a reason why Rafales are in Amritsar not Jodhpur.

 

[Superpower Bharat]

Can you name 3 tenders with high end tech which were kept open to private companies with funding commitment?

All major accusation happens only through tender only... And why funding commitment required. Are they give weapons to armed forces for free... Even PSU won't give weapons for free and armed forces do negotiation with PSU's also. MK1A deal delay for 5 years only for price negotiation... DRDO is goi own organisation they invested on that. Anything goes wrong they can catch scientists but for pvt cons it won't happens. It means technology developed with government's money won't leak to our enemy. GOI will have control on entire security..

 

[Pink Panther]

Get it on the Tejas, and other aircraft.

Rudram-3 is a heavy missile that weighs close to a ton which is not suitable for Tejas.