India's AMCA Jet Fighter to Utilize Custom-Designed 110kN Thrust Engines

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) officials have revealed the rationale behind the development of a unique engine thrust system for India's Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA).

The AMCA, a fifth-generation fighter jet, will be equipped with two 110kN thrust class engines specifically engineered to excel in India's demanding operational environment.

Why 110kN Thrust?​

• Supercruise Capability: A key feature of the AMCA is its ability to sustain supersonic speeds without relying on afterburners, a fuel-intensive process. The 110kN thrust engines will provide the necessary power for this supercruise capability, as well as to support the aircraft's radar and avionics systems.
• Adaptability to Harsh Conditions: India's hot and humid climate poses a significant challenge for fighter jet engines, often resulting in a loss of power. The AMCA's engines are being designed to withstand temperatures reaching 50 degrees Celsius (122 degrees Fahrenheit) without compromising performance.

The Need for Indigenous Development​

The specific thrust-to-weight ratio required for the AMCA is not commonly found in engines produced by global manufacturers.

To address this, India's Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE), a division of the DRDO, is spearheading the development of a bespoke engine for the AMCA program.

This effort involves collaboration with foreign Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEMs) to integrate cutting-edge technology and ensure reliability.

Future-Proofing the AMCA​

The engine is not only designed to meet current requirements but also to accommodate future advancements.

With a dry core thrust capacity of 75kN, the engine can be scaled up to deliver higher thrust outputs, allowing for upgrades and modifications in the future.

This scalability ensures that the AMCA remains at the forefront of fighter jet technology for years to come.

 

[sanket]

First Finalise Foreign partner , Just musical chair is on from last 3 to 4 years in the name of Foreign partner.

 

[Anant]

I'd be more concerned with whether 110 kN would be powerful enough, considering it is lesser than practically every other twin-engined 5th generation fighter. Considering the problems the USA is facing with the F-35's lack of additional power for newer systems, one only hopes we don't run into a similar issue.

 

[NSR]

First invest massively in Jet Fighter Engine Program in universities, public and private labs and companies to get over the last hump/hurdles of Hot Core Section.
But first India must have its own high altitude test bed aircraft of its own to be successful.

Second, Just join UK-Italy-Japan consortium as a fourth founding member and pay 1/4th the cost and get 6th generation fighter for sure.
Depending on Indian fighter program is like standing on a quicksand.
Just hold your nose and pony up and get your 6th generation fighter on time.

 

[Sudha]

Think forcing an alien to impart the knowhow of tech is more easier than making HAL to deliver on time.

 

[Pad UwU]

Just sign up the RR jet engine 100% full ToT's plus IP ownership and join GCAP Tempest 6gen instead.... Then after that we can vastly gain more knowledge to develop our own design that will revive Kaveri or do a better one with new name😸

 

[ramdas]

The current situation is frustrating. They haven't been able to reconfigure the Kaveri engine, yet they're already discussing AMCA. Taxpayers are not fools and shouldn't be expected to blindly trust them. Most of their projects are behind schedule and they're still struggling to get things done.

 

[Sandeep]

The current situation is frustrating. They haven't been able to reconfigure the Kaveri engine, yet they're already discussing AMCA. Taxpayers are not fools and shouldn't be expected to blindly trust them. Most of their projects are behind schedule and they're still struggling to get things done.

DRDO/GTRE aren’t developing an engine by themselves but will develop one with France but India will get 100% of the technology and local production.

 

[Sandeep]

First Finalise Foreign partner , Just musical chair is on from last 3 to 4 years in the name of Foreign partner.

They already have. They are developing a new engine with France where we will get 100% of the technology and local production.

 

[Sandeep]

India is already developing a brand new engine with Safran where India will get 100% of the technology and manufacture it entirely in India. This will allow us to research and develop the engine from the start and India will get to learn more about developing jet engines to make us self reliant for any future engines we will develop.

This is the best deal that India will ever get and it will stop us from being stuck on the same cycle of manufacturing an engine under a license with no critical technology given or how to make it. We will be stuck on expensive foreign parts, spares, repairs, services or overhaul for the next 40 years which gets us nowhere.

 

[Sandeep]

Just sign up the RR jet engine 100% full ToT's plus IP ownership and join GCAP Tempest 6gen instead.... Then after that we can vastly gain more knowledge to develop our own design that will revive Kaveri or do a better one with new name😸

If only it was that simple. In multinational projects each country makes a work share agreement and develops a part of the jet, engine or technology which only they will make and sell. So no country alone has 100% of the technology. This is to ensure that no country makes and sells an entire jet at a much cheaper rate than their partner. This is why it’s complicated and why it doesn’t work for India and what we need. Also we will be stuck on foreign expensive imports on parts or any technology for a long time.

 

[Akshat]

Just sign up the RR jet engine 100% full ToT's plus IP ownership and join GCAP Tempest 6gen instead.... Then after that we can vastly gain more knowledge to develop our own design that will revive Kaveri or do a better one with new name😸

For that RR should have the 100% tech 😂😂😂 Even for old Adour engines they have to import compressors from France.

 

[Pad UwU]

If only it was that simple. In multinational projects each country makes a work share agreement and develops a part of the jet, engine or technology which only they will make and sell. So no country alone has 100% of the technology. This is to ensure that no country makes and sells an entire jet at a much cheaper rate than their partner. This is why it’s complicated and why it doesn’t work for India and what we need. Also we will be stuck on foreign expensive imports on parts or any technology for a long time.

That's why GoI needs to hurry up and stop lazing around... RR and UK gov offering a opportunity of the decade so we can master and own a JV partnership to get our own IP of aircraft engine and transferring it's technology of how to manufactur.... Nope we will be owning design specific for India so we can develop in future our own design after the JV partnership if we are willing funding it 100%....
The only complicated is we always cheapen out and always whining about their asking price plus delaying because of our trash slow bureaucratic system... Look how fast Japan signing and adopting their laws so their military doctrine will be aligned to it's partner and theirs too would be aligned to with Japan...

GoI one main key problem is we are trying to sailing a two ships in one and can't decide faster and efficient enough and obsess of slow productivity 😹
We need to level up our playing field if we choose a democracy, neutral or swallow by rising wokeism

 

[Pad UwU]

For that RR should have the 100% tech 😂😂😂 Even for old Adour engines they have to import compressors from France.

Nah your just salty, US offering something too but not willing for 100% ToT's and IP ownership... France offer something but still not fruitful enough to revive the Kaveri 2.0 faster to counter the brewing threat's of the chingchongs.... GoI needs to adopt faster or will be splash hard by the changing tides...

No worries we already know your a bias for France like the Picard sub account of yours😹😹😹🤭

 

[Ravi]

By the time India finalises the engine development, aliens will visit India and show a much more elegant way of flying at 500kn thrust without mechanical engines but by using gravity.

 

[sky-high]

that means only if you have this engine AMCA will be 5th gen

 

[sky-high]

DRDO/GTRE aren’t developing an engine by themselves but will develop one with France but India will get 100% of the technology and local production.

Nothing is decided.. but we claim we have built the 82 kN wet kaveri.. what use if one Tejas platform is not fit with it to collect data?

What nonsense is this collaboration?

 

[Aayush Pratap]

Everyone knows, no need to explain. Just get on with it.

 

[kumar]

We talk of 5 to 6 carriers, but we cannot commit to invest in jet engine technology. 😢 😆 🤣. Somehowwe cannot see it as very important investment. Strategic myopia.

 

[PKPRS]

They already have. They are developing a new engine with France where we will get 100% of the technology and local production.

They are still talking with RR also, GE wanted to offer high thrust engine as well and so as Pratt and Whitney, they already talked with France many times and they don’t have the right engine that can power AMCA, France themselves are getting help for their 5th gen Aircraft from Germany’s MTU.

 

[Pad UwU]

They are still talking with RR also, GE wanted to offer high thrust engine as well and so as Pratt and Whitney, they already talked with France many times and they don’t have the right engine that can power AMCA, France themselves are getting help for their 5th gen Aircraft from Germany’s MTU.

Very true, but Akshat and his sub account Philippe Picard won't accept this reality 😹😹😹

 

[Philippe Picard]

Very true, but Akshat and his sub account Philippe Picard won't accept this reality 😹😹😹

I use my real name, but you use other pseudos (Pink Panther, Primary Goal, etc..) with the same crappy comments, a coward.

 

[Philippe Picard]

They are still talking with RR also, GE wanted to offer high thrust engine as well and so as Pratt and Whitney, they already talked with France many times and they don’t have the right engine that can power AMCA, France themselves are getting help for their 5th gen Aircraft from Germany’s MTU.

The French doesn't need the help of the German to develop their own 6th generation engine...However, in your little colonized mind, you still need the help of your motherland, a little lackey with a biased attitude toward the French.

 

[Akshat]

Nah your just salty, US offering something too but not willing for 100% ToT's and IP ownership... France offer something but still not fruitful enough to revive the Kaveri 2.0 faster to counter the brewing threat's of the chingchongs.... GoI needs to adopt faster or will be splash hard by the changing tides...

No worries we already know your a bias for France like the Picard sub account of yours😹😹😹🤭

Always the same words but never any proof. Yawn.

 

[Philippe Picard]

Just sign up the RR jet engine 100% full ToT's plus IP ownership and join GCAP Tempest 6gen instead.... Then after that we can vastly gain more knowledge to develop our own design that will revive Kaveri or do a better one with new name😸

Indeed, join the Tempest at any price and return to the Great Britain, your truly motherland. Brittania rule...

 

[Philippe Picard]

Nah your just salty, US offering something too but not willing for 100% ToT's and IP ownership... France offer something but still not fruitful enough to revive the Kaveri 2.0 faster to counter the brewing threat's of the chingchongs.... GoI needs to adopt faster or will be splash hard by the changing tides...

No worries we already know your a bias for France like the Picard sub account of yours😹😹😹🤭

I am from Canada, ask the webmaster of this site to see my ip...Keep going with your rethoric of the colonized mind, Charles III is your king. Tempest is an amazing project lead by the most greatess country of the world, the SCAF is already a fiasco...Also, get the F-35...grandpa NSR will agree with me.

 

[PKPRS]

The French doesn't need the help of the German to develop their own 6th generation engine...However, in your little colonized mind, you still need the help of your motherland, a little lackey with a biased attitude toward the French.

Do you know anything at all, do some research before you say something here.

 

[vinod nair]

Why not detune the Al31 incorporating further refinement in weight and fuel consumption simultaneously in house

 

[Dr. Venkateswara Rao. Korasiga]

We can also develop high thrust engine and fit along with GE engine so that we can have cost reduction and good reliability. Of course it is a wild idea. Only IAF can decide.

 

[Sandeep]

That's why GoI needs to hurry up and stop lazing around... RR and UK gov offering a opportunity of the decade so we can master and own a JV partnership to get our own IP of aircraft engine and transferring it's technology of how to manufactur.... Nope we will be owning design specific for India so we can develop in future our own design after the JV partnership if we are willing funding it 100%....
The only complicated is we always cheapen out and always whining about their asking price plus delaying because of our trash slow bureaucratic system... Look how fast Japan signing and adopting their laws so their military doctrine will be aligned to it's partner and theirs too would be aligned to with Japan...

GoI one main key problem is we are trying to sailing a two ships in one and can't decide faster and efficient enough and obsess of slow productivity 😹
We need to level up our playing field if we choose a democracy, neutral or swallow by rising wokeism

Anything that’s developed by those countries is the only thing that they manufacture and provide. India can’t join and get 100% of the technology and manufacture it in India. So even if we develop 25% of the jet we will only own 25% and make only that much. The other countries will make their share. So we can’t make use of whatever that 25% technology or part in another jet program. You need 100% which they won’t give as India will be able to manufacture the entire jet at a much cheaper price than they can. Also you have to look at the type of weapons that’s compatible and who makes it. In truth we will just be paying a very expensive price for the jet and its upkeep for the next 40 years.