Japan's XF9-1 Engine Offers A Scalable Power Solution for India's AMCA Fighter, Allowing Future-Ready Upgrades for 6th-Gen Variants

Japan's XF9-1 Engine Offers A Scalable Power Solution for India's AMCA Fighter, Allowing Future-Ready Upgrades for 6th-Gen Variants


Japan has officially offered its state-of-the-art IHI XF9-1 engine to India for co-development and domestic manufacturing, positioning it as a powerful contender to be the heart of the nation's Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA).

The proposal makes Japan the fourth country to enter the high-stakes competition to supply the engine for India's futuristic 5.5-generation stealth fighter, joining established aerospace leaders from the United States, the United Kingdom, and France.

The engine at the center of the offer, the IHI XF9-1, is a low-bypass turbofan designed for high performance. Developed by Japan's IHI Corporation, the prototype engine produces a dry thrust of approximately 11 tons (107kN) and can achieve over 15 tons (147kN) with its afterburner engaged.

Critically, the engine is engineered for future growth, with a potential maximum thrust of nearly 20 tons (196kN), making it suitable not only for current but also for next-generation combat aircraft.

India's Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE), the agency leading the engine project, has outlined a need for a powerplant that can generate up to 120kN of thrust.

A key requirement is the ability to achieve "supercruise"—sustained supersonic flight without the heavy fuel consumption of an afterburner—which requires a dry thrust of around 73-75 kN.

While the XF9-1's current dry thrust is higher than this, its modern design allows it to be modified or "detuned" to precisely meet the AMCA's immediate needs.

This scalability is a major advantage, as the same core engine could later be upgraded to power future sixth-generation variants that will demand significantly more power.

Competition for the AMCA engine contract is intense, with the Japanese offer now being weighed against proposals from other global giants.

These include the Safran M88 engine from France, the Eurojet EJ200 from a British-led consortium, and the F414 engine from General Electric in the United States.

Each offer is being evaluated on its technical merits, level of technology transfer, and alignment with India's strategic goals.

The Japanese proposal strongly supports India's "Make in India" initiative and the goal of achieving self-reliance in critical defence technologies. The offer includes provisions for the XF9-1 to be manufactured locally, which would provide a significant boost to India's aerospace and defence industrial base.

A partnership on such a crucial project would also mark a major milestone in the growing strategic and defence relationship between India and Japan.

As the AMCA program moves forward, the Indian Air Force and GTRE will conduct a thorough assessment of all proposals. The final decision will depend on a combination of factors, including engine performance, the extent of technology sharing, long-term costs, and strategic benefits.

Japan's entry highlights the global importance of the AMCA project and strengthens India's position as a rising power in the world of advanced aerospace engineering.
 
GTRE should go with the RR offer. Then, why is Japan developing the Tempest fighter jet with the UK and Italy? If they can develop an engine, what is the point of joining the Tempest project? Earlier, Japan denied Soryu-class subs as well as amphibious aircraft too. In the best-case scenario, GTRE can use the Japanese offer as a pressure tactic to get the best out of the rest. Japan is fifth after Russia and not fourth country to offer.
 
Well, this may be a part of recent news that India's P-15E missile technology was shared with Japan. But again, India gets promises in return for technology. This is a better engine for technology, but what is the thrust-to-weight ratio? Certainly, with such a class of engine, one can build much heavier aircraft than currently planned.
 
Would love to see Japan-India collaboration. After all, Japan gave the bullet train for almost free to India (negligible interest rates).
 
Why on Earth would someone decrease dry thrust? It does not make sense, provided you use the same amount of fuel, if it's just a T/W ratio change.
 
GTRE should go with the RR offer. Then, why is Japan developing the Tempest fighter jet with the UK and Italy? If they can develop an engine, what is the point of joining the Tempest project? Earlier, Japan denied Soryu-class subs as well as amphibious aircraft too. In the best-case scenario, GTRE can use the Japanese offer as a pressure tactic to get the best out of the rest. Japan is fifth after Russia and not fourth country to offer.
You made some very valid viewpoints, brother, but:

If geopolitics and historical evidence of failure to meet commitments are considered, the USA is out of the picture.

Because of geopolitics and possibly subpar quality compared to other alternatives, Russia is out of the picture.

Due to overcharging, lack of willingness for ToT, and lack of as advanced an engine as we would like, France is out of the picture.

This leaves only the UK and Japan.

In this, due to geopolitics, I would like to go ahead with Japan: very good capabilities of the engine, very good historical track record for commitments following, less susceptible to US pressure tactics in case the US wants to strong-arm India.
 
I think the government will go with Safran because, as it seems, Rafale will be manufactured in India. So, it is realistic that the M88 engine could be used in Tejas also, and a modified version in AMCA. It will give us uniformity also. The M88 is a very good engine. IAF will not purchase any 5th gen jet, and they are going to make Rafale under MRFA. Rafale is a good fighter jet, but India should buy limited numbers of 5th gen jets. 2-3 squadrons of F-35s will give India a huge boost. But whatever it is, it's the middle of 2025, so the government should take the decision fast now... enough of this meeting, talks, and all other nonsense.
 
I don't think this plan will work japanese are unreliable just like American like they are as they didn't want to share the technology of their submarine Sōryū-class submarine and they have even not inducted this engine in their airforce.
 
You made some very valid viewpoints, brother, but:

If geopolitics and historical evidence of failure to meet commitments are considered, the USA is out of the picture.

Because of geopolitics and possibly subpar quality compared to other alternatives, Russia is out of the picture.

Due to overcharging, lack of willingness for ToT, and lack of as advanced an engine as we would like, France is out of the picture.

This leaves only the UK and Japan.

In this, due to geopolitics, I would like to go ahead with Japan: very good capabilities of the engine, very good historical track record for commitments following, less susceptible to US pressure tactics in case the US wants to strong-arm India.
Japan hasn't yet proved its mettle in defence. Japan is joining GCAP and even offered to join the Tempest project. If Japan had developed its own engine, then there would be no point in joining the Tempest project. Japan should develop its own fighter jet; South Korea is developing its own fighter. Japan's economy is bigger than South Korea's because Japan lacks in jet engine tech, that's why they have joined GCAP. First, Japan needs to induct and fly their fighter jets on the IHI XF9-1 Engine.
 
GTRE should go with the RR offer. Then, why is Japan developing the Tempest fighter jet with the UK and Italy? If they can develop an engine, what is the point of joining the Tempest project? Earlier, Japan denied Soryu-class subs as well as amphibious aircraft too. In the best-case scenario, GTRE can use the Japanese offer as a pressure tactic to get the best out of the rest. Japan is fifth after Russia and not fourth country to offer.
It's not just about the engine in the case of Japan's association in the Tempest program. It's about cost and risk too.

XF9-1 is a kind of engineering marvel. It gives the highest power output in comparison to all available same-class engines.

Second, for Tempest, RR is developing an adaptive cycle engine. An adaptive cycle engine is a next-gen engine, and both the US and Europe are developing this.

Japan has invested a good amount to develop the IHI XF9-1, and if they want to capitalize on their achievement, then it's not a big issue.

India is the only country that can give Japan a business for the long run, and no other country can match India's market.

It'll be great if the GoI would be able to crack a beneficial deal with this offer.
 
This is a far better deal than we can imagine. We can easily get world-class engine tech. Japan won't be shady with their deals like America or France, and we can easily scale the engine if required, if what they say is true. Always wondered about this great engine not being used anywhere. Japan restarted their fighter jet development by first focusing on the engine and developing other technology around it later, since the engine was the most critical component and the one most important to acquire self-dependence.
 
I don't think this plan will work japanese are unreliable just like American like they are as they didn't want to share the technology of their submarine Sōryū-class submarine and they have even not inducted this engine in their airforce.
Things are slowly changing. Not wanting to share their leading-edge tech with an upcoming superpower is a solid move. Even I do not want India to share BrahMos tech with other countries, forget about battlefield-altering level technologies like submarines or fighter jet engines.
 
Japan usually does not share critical TOT, one of the reasons they withdrawn from submarine tender. Let's hope they are offering full TOT as XF9 is unlikely to see service in Japan due to them joining GCAP. Overall the engine is superior to any existing engine in terms of electrical output making it possible to integrate high power laser weapon on fighter jets.
 
GTRE should go with the RR offer. Then, why is Japan developing the Tempest fighter jet with the UK and Italy? If they can develop an engine, what is the point of joining the Tempest project? Earlier, Japan denied Soryu-class subs as well as amphibious aircraft too. In the best-case scenario, GTRE can use the Japanese offer as a pressure tactic to get the best out of the rest. Japan is fifth after Russia and not fourth country to offer.
Dude, they don't sell to anyone except very close partners like us, Australia until recently because of their constitution after WW2. Russia is an enemy country for them, and we use Russian weapons, sensors in everything. Will you give your BrahMos to Azerbaijan considering they are in bed with Pakistanis? You have a childish thought process. The amphibious aircraft deal didn't go through because of cost, nothing else. They have only started to open their defence sector in a slow manner outside of their closed partners.
 
I think US will block them. Ultimately Japan still depends on US for its security. We can try to negotiate with them meanwhile develop our own engine by the time AMCA is ready. Jai Hind
 
If Japan offers joint production of engines at an Indian factory, then accept; otherwise, Japan is heavily dependent on the USA for its defence products, and anything can happen.

Japan did not give its submarine to India.
 
Something is better than nothing. Close eyes partner with anyone start making jets, simultaneously learn, make indigenous components one by one, build ecosystem, economy, gradually attain self sufficiency. Keep on deliberating will lead to nowhere.
 
India should collaborate and Or tie up with Japan as Japan is more favourable country. Yet at the same time we Must keep on working on our amca program, benefitting from Japanese technology.
 
Great options on the table for India. We need to grab it with both hands and also engine development co-partnerships with other must also continue. India needs 2-3 full fledged engine and fighter evelopment company like China, US
 
Japan is more trustworthy for India, but the fear is Japan's defence industries and foreign policies are mostly controlled by the USA. Japan is not like before World War 2.
 

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