Pak Brigadier's Claim of J-35A Making Nation 4th with 5th-Gen Jets Debunked, as Numerous Countries Already Operating F-35

Pak Brigadier's Claim of J-35A Making Nation 4th with 5th-Gen Jets Debunked, as Numerous Countries Already Operating F-35


A recent claim by a retired Pakistani military official that Pakistan would become the world's fourth nation to operate fifth-generation fighter jets has been widely refuted.

Retired Brigadier Masood Ahmed Khan asserted that the acquisition of China's J-35A fighter would grant Pakistan this status, a statement that has been met with considerable skepticism.

Khan's assertion is demonstrably false. While he suggested Pakistan would join only the United States, Russia, and China in possessing fifth-generation aircraft, he overlooked the widespread deployment of the American-made F-35 Lightning II. The F-35, a proven fifth-generation stealth fighter, is currently operational in numerous countries.

According to Lockheed Martin, the manufacturer of the F-35, the aircraft is currently in service with multiple nations, including Australia, the United Kingdom, Italy, Japan, the Netherlands, Norway, Israel, and South Korea.

Other nations that are use it include, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Poland and Singapore, along with the United States. This significantly contradicts Khan's claim, placing Pakistan much further down the list of fifth-generation aircraft operators.

The basis of Khan's confidence lies in the expected delivery of the J-35A, a twin-engine stealth fighter developed by China's Shenyang Aircraft Corporation. Pakistan has reportedly approved the purchase of 40 J-35A jets, with deliveries potentially starting within the next two years.

This would represent China's first export of a fifth-generation fighter. Khan believes this aircraft's stealth capabilities and advanced avionics would give Pakistan an advantage over regional rivals, particularly the Indian Air Force (IAF).

Khan specifically stated, "The J-35A will be superior in the region and will force the Indian Air Force to sit out of any possible conflict on Kashmir." However, defense analysts and commentators have largely dismissed this assertion, citing the J-35A's untested combat record compared to established platforms like the F-35. Furthermore, India is actively modernizing its air force.

The brigadier's "fourth nation" claim has been heavily criticized both online and within defense circles. Many have pointed out the obvious discrepancy, highlighting the large number of existing F-35 operators.

Concerns have also been raised, even within Pakistan, about the J-35A's actual capabilities. Although the aircraft boasts stealth features and a respectable operational range (reportedly 1,200 km, extendable with refueling), its effectiveness hinges on the technology China is willing to provide.

Historically, China has limited the most advanced technologies in export versions of its military hardware. For example, the exported J-10CE fighter jet features a downgraded AESA radar and a shorter-range version of the PL-15 missile compared to the one used by the Chinese Air Force. The exported PL-15E is limited to 145km compared to PL-15's 200km-plus range.

Moreover, Khan's claim appears to disregard India's ongoing air force modernization program.

The IAF currently operates 36 Rafale jets, considered 4.5-generation fighters, and is upgrading its Su-30MKI fleet. These upgrades include the advanced Virupaksha AESA radar and the Astra MkIII, a beyond-visual-range missile with a reported range of 300-350 km.

India is also developing its own fifth-generation stealth fighter, the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA), with prototypes expected within the next decade. This, combined with India's S-400 air defense system, suggests the IAF is unlikely to be sidelined in any potential conflict.
 
Define soon considering the Su-75 has yet to fly and the Su-57 is arguably only near baked now over a decade after flying
Then we won’t get any other 5th gen aircraft, something is better than nothing, we eill be burnt alive if we fight with 4th gen aircraft like Rafale, also we will loose $300Mln/Frenchie jet in that process.
 
He is totally unaware of why the IAF deployed the S-400. To detect and destroy any stealth aircraft, the IAF already detected the J-20 with the Su-30 MKI's new AESA radar six years ago. Well-trained people with good fighters and a skilled approach are key to winning. Assuming the MiG-21 downed an F-16 is one milestone. Competence is important. Unfortunately for Pakistan, they are not able to get Western technology, which India already has. Resources, adding local MFR of AMCA (i.e., 5.5 generation) in hand to produce 200 to 300 fighters, along with 114 Rafale or F-35A on the table, with a Su-57E local assembly option with ToT. No match, then why is China afraid of the IAF?
 
Define soon considering the Su-75 has yet to fly and the Su-57 is arguably only near baked now over a decade after flying
The Su-75 is the only true-blood 5th gen from Russia, and yes, it's in the development stage, but if India chooses to come onboard as a partner, then the development could be expedited. Especially since India lacks the development of a single-engine, light stealth fighter. National pride aside, Tejas Mk1 and Mk1A development and delivery have honestly turned into an embarrassment. It's already going to be obsolete in the next decade, so I don't see the point of wasting so much on it. All the resources, funds, and time could be better utilized building something from scratch that's actually needed as per current requirements and is going to be future-proof. Rafale and TEDBF are already in the pipeline and can accommodate any role envisioned for Tejas.

The Su-57 is constantly being worked upon and upgraded and is much closer to what we would want. India, anyways, would upgrade and utilize its own tech for local production.

Even if India doesn't choose the Su-57, the newer AL-51 and AL-51F1 engines are no joke and can be a viable alternative to Safran, GE, RR, etc., who aren't keen on 100% TOT.

On that note, not even the F-35 is perfectly baked. The sheer amount of technical and mechanical failures associated with them, even after decades of induction and 1000 airframes produced, is hard to overlook. F-35s crash or break down almost every Tuesday, not to mention the abysmal range, speed, combat readiness, and maintenance period.
 
What he meant is Pakistan is the fourth country to indegenously develop 5th generation fighter. Pakistan is a province of China from long ago. Pakistan is ruled by chinese government since a long time ago. Sometimes plain truth comes out of one's mouth unintentionally.
 
The Su-75 is the only true-blood 5th gen from Russia, and yes, it's in the development stage, but if India chooses to come onboard as a partner, then the development could be expedited. Especially since India lacks the development of a single-engine, light stealth fighter.
India walked out earlier from this project because lose trust due to prolonged delay
 
India walked out earlier from this project because lose trust due to prolonged delay
That was 12-15 years ago. Things have drastically changed. Also, India walked away because of no TOT, no localised production, and a sub-par engine. All of which have now been addressed.
 
What more would you expect from a Pakistani??? They live in a separate world of self imposed fantasy. The Pakistani armed forces are better at selling pizzas, surrendering unconditionally and winning elections.
 

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