Rolls-Royce Proposes Full IP Transfer for AMCA Engine Development

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In a move that could significantly bolster India's indigenous defense capabilities, Rolls-Royce has proposed a revolutionary collaboration for the development of the engine for India's Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA). Alex Zino, the company's future programs chief, has committed to a complete transfer of intellectual property (IP) rights to India for a jointly developed engine.

This unprecedented offer is a departure from traditional models, empowering India with full ownership of the engine's technology. The collaboration is aimed at fostering knowledge transfer and indigenous capabilities, going beyond mere production or licensing agreements.

"We are ready to deepen our partnership with India by designing and developing aero engines in collaboration with Indian entities," Zino stated, highlighting Rolls-Royce's commitment to joint development and knowledge sharing. He also emphasized the rarity of such an offer, signaling the company's high regard for this potential partnership.

Furthermore, Zino stated that Rolls-Royce is working closely with India's Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) to propose solutions that transfer capabilities to India, develop IP, and establish manufacturing in India for both national security and potential export in the future.

This collaboration, if realized, could be a game-changer for India's aerospace industry, establishing the country as a self-reliant force in aero-engine development with the potential to become a global exporter of its expertise.
 
It is different. This engine is not planned for the Tempest project. I'd prefer it for India to join either the GCAP or FCAS programs, but this engine is a separate thing entirely.
First India dont want to Join either FCAS or GCAP , India wants its own stealth Fighter jet AMCA to fly with Indigenous Engine which want to develop with Foreign help.But UK want India India to Join Tempest program. against the expense of AMCA Project.Mark my word This Engine is Linked with Tempest project.RR have two offers One Engine will b developed which is Just Like GE-414 Type(may help developing Hot cre section) Second offer is 6th Gen Engine JV with India for Tempest.But India can make use of UK offer to put pressure on other contenders to get Best deal.I previously also said India want every nut / bolt to b manufactured in India with Fully Eco-system developed whether it is Engine of Fighter jet. & Tempest being Multinational project India will not have chance to established complete Eco-system developed around it in India.But French know it,a common Engine can b developed for AMCA & FCAS. Second thing If Rafale wins MRFA which is most likely the same Engine which Safran/DRDO develped for AMCA (110 kN) will also b integrated on Indian Rafale (Air force & Marine both 36+26+114=176) french are in front runners at the moment.
 
West clearly internally trying all to delay In LCA like all programs for thier profitability 📈 Gov. Of Ind. Not trying to understand situation not increasing thier budgets in any field .... westerns knows , when China will start dancing over our head , then india will come and say : chahe jitna lelo bss hme chahiye .....

Shame on Ind. Politics leaders only thinking pros and cons of thier only party and thier personal interests and nothing is happening...
opposition questions on all right and wrongs but they never say ki , please increase R&D budget , security budget ....reduce and focus on delayed projects .
I ain't able to define what am feeling while am typing all the above stupidity 😕.....
But , still not hopeless at all.
IAF can accept 300 nos. MK1A's in final Total; until MK2 and MRFA tender are completed I feel. Anyways, in war times these jets will be shot down very very quickly by enemy's SAM's and A2A BVRAAM's..
 
Well it wouldve been betrer if rolls royce had first given their engines for tejas.
They DID NOT have any suitable engines for Tejas at that time. Only EJ200 was there which was 1.5 times costlier than GEF404. IAF asked for EJ200 engines in LCA MK1 BUT, MoD went for L-1 vendor i.e., GE next...
 
They are US vassal state and US can close down this joint development whenever they want. That is the biggest problem if the US wants to screw us midway in the program.
But, they are offering the cheapest SEF jets now for IAF, with latest AIM174B 400 kms range of VLRAAM...
 
We don’t need to join GCAP or Tempest program, it will cost us a fortune and moreover it will affect our domestic industry, if we make SU-75 for MRFA we will learn a lot and with that experience we can jump to AMCA and go from there, AMCA MK3 could be a 6th gen platform, we can’t trust anyone to give us any reasonable TOT on engine, so we need to keep trying hard on GTRE Kaveri no matter how long it takes, one day we can crack the code.
Yes, cannot stop Kaveri2.0 Baba Kalyani-GTRE-Midhani jv engines for 90KN max. thrusts developments...
 
If we are going with French for jet engine tech. We can partner with British for marine engines with IP and 100% tech transfer. Barak8 model was win-win for all.
 
We don’t need to join GCAP or Tempest program, it will cost us a fortune and moreover it will affect our domestic industry, if we make SU-75 for MRFA we will learn a lot and with that experience we can jump to AMCA and go from there, AMCA MK3 could be a 6th gen platform, we can’t trust anyone to give us any reasonable TOT on engine, so we need to keep trying hard on GTRE Kaveri no matter how long it takes, one day we can crack the code.
No thanks. IAF has specifically said no for Su75 and Su57. India isn’t going to fall in Russian traps anymore. Official statement from IAF chief is out now.
 
If they said it we can own the IP ownership and join force of collaborative R&D why not maybe this would be our ticket for GCAP Tempest while this might change the image of HAL's AMCA speed development... Why are we restraining ourselves just by wasting time and money to move forward in a fast phase future war preparation against China 😺.... India must think advance, and stop being racist to our former colonial master, instead we should colonize the UK to indianize it😹😹😹😹
But for ToT they need to have the tech in the first place. They dont have the tech themselves so can’t transfer it either,
 
But for ToT they need to have the tech in the first place. They dont have the tech themselves so can’t transfer it either,
They have better tech than the French, UK and Japan are enhancing the engine that Japan made for their Mitsubishi stealth jet.
 
Last year India and France signed a deal to design, develop and manufacture 100% of a brand new engine. India will get 100% of the technology and IPR, manufacture the engine entirely in India, sell to whoever without needing permission and can modify it or upgrade it or make any changes we want without permission as well.

Currently HAL and Safran are finalising the design, technology, capabilities, work share agreement, scientific research and abilities along with the machinery and tools that will be required. Each are working on their strength, knowledge and ability on who creates what and manufacture what for the first few prototype.

RR has come too late because they weren’t offering a completely brand new engine design right from the beginning and instead they wanted to use parts and technology they developed from the Eurojet engine and hesitated in providing 100% of the technology, IPR and manufacture it all in India but India wasn’t interested in it. Now it seems they have changed their offer and they are allowing India 100% of everything.

Just to inform people on this sight there is multiple media, government and company news which covers and stated the deal which was signed when the PM visited France so people can find proof on Google if they keep denying a deal ever took place.
Nope. Only MoU was signed. PIB release has mentioned that.
 
West clearly internally trying all to delay In LCA like all programs for thier profitability 📈 Gov. Of Ind. Not trying to understand situation not increasing thier budgets in any field .... westerns knows , when China will start dancing over our head , then india will come and say : chahe jitna lelo bss hme chahiye .....

Shame on Ind. Politics leaders only thinking pros and cons of thier only party and thier personal interests and nothing is happening...
opposition questions on all right and wrongs but they never say ki , please increase R&D budget , security budget ....reduce and focus on delayed projects .
I ain't able to define what am feeling while am typing all the above stupidity 😕.....
But , still not hopeless at all.
All requisite budgets have been given. Blank check funding has been provided but DPSUs and DRDO have refused to listen and deliver anything. All budget gone for their personal luxuries. MoD has finally understood this and is forcing them to give away 25% of their budget, at least, with private sector
 
All requisite budgets have been given. Blank check funding has been provided but DPSUs and DRDO have refused to listen and deliver anything. All budget gone for their personal luxuries. MoD has finally understood this and is forcing them to give away 25% of their budget, at least, with private sector
Did you understand the basic of blank cheque??
Drdo chief is saying that private sector too get funding from mod!! They want to share it!!
Here is the thing blank cheque one of the funniest and comedy one!!!
nice one
 
But for ToT they need to have the tech in the first place. They dont have the tech themselves so can’t transfer it either,
Let it decide by the IAF and MoD that they have the tech or not!! If they are sending proposal means they have something in the first place!! Tech or knowledge let it decide by the Mod!!
 
Let it decide by the IAF and MoD that they have the tech or not!! If they are sending proposal means they have something in the first place!! Tech or knowledge let it decide by the Mod!!
Not necessary. Saab keeps offering 100% when they only have 45%. Russia offered 70% ToT for Ka226T but then refused being 63%(33% of overall tech).

Moreover, what they have may be of poor quality as well. EF consortium refused it. US refused it. Even UK refused it. They sent proposals to all.

GoI will of course decide. But if we were to not even discuss it then this platform won’t exist. When it happens then we will switch our comments to that.
 
Did you understand the basic of blank cheque??
Drdo chief is saying that private sector too get funding from mod!! They want to share it!!
Here is the thing blank cheque one of the funniest and comedy one!!!
nice one
I very well know the meaning of blank check but it seems you don’t. Mod gives blank checks to DRDO.

They have no option. Mod has made it compulsory since the last 3-4 years and that’s why they are giving it,

Indeed it is comical that DRDO gets blank checks and then wastes it all and delivers nothing. Yet no action against them. Very very comic but painful,
 
They have better tech than the French, UK and Japan are enhancing the engine that Japan made for their Mitsubishi stealth jet.
That’s why they have not developed any operational fighter jet engine in the last 4 decades on their own? In fact they are importing from France even for their 3rd gen engines. 😂😂😂
 
That’s why they have not developed any operational fighter jet engine in the last 4 decades on their own? In fact they are importing from France even for their 3rd gen engines. 😂😂😂
Buy a whole box of burnol and antacid and keep it ready, you might need it soon 😂😂😂.
 
No thanks. IAF has specifically said no for Su75 and Su57. India isn’t going to fall in Russian traps anymore. Official statement from IAF chief is out now.
IAF said no to Rafale after buying only 36, even after your master Macron’s repeated begging, pleading and crying more than 100 times 🥲😩😭.
 
The offer is too good to be true, what's the catch? Is it going to be a new design or an old model with a refurbished design? India has to invest a lot to get the IPR rights. RR is going to use the same for its tempest program as well
 

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