US to Court India with $4 Billion Boeing P-8I Deal and More Chinooks to Effectively Counter Agressive China

US to Court India with $4 Billion Boeing P-8I Deal and More Chinooks to Effectively Counter Agressive China


A senior delegation of officials from the United States Department of Defense and aerospace giant Boeing is scheduled to arrive in India this week for crucial negotiations on major defence acquisitions.

The talks will focus on a landmark $4 billion agreement for six additional P-8I Poseidon maritime surveillance aircraft for the Indian Navy and a renewed proposal for more CH-47F Chinook heavy-lift helicopters, signalling a significant deepening of strategic ties between the two nations amid rising regional tensions.

Strengthening Maritime Surveillance​

The primary agenda is the finalisation of the deal for six more P-8I Poseidon aircraft, which would expand the Indian Navy's current fleet from 12 to 18.

The existing P-8I fleet, a military variant of the Boeing 737 airliner, has been a cornerstone of India's maritime strategy since its induction began in 2013.

Having flown over 200,000 hours, these aircraft have provided vital long-range intelligence, surveillance, and anti-submarine warfare capabilities across the Indian Ocean Region.

Their critical role was highlighted during the 2020 Galwan standoff with China and in various joint exercises with Quad partners.

The proposed new aircraft, estimated to cost between $600-700 million each, come equipped with advanced sensors, Harpoon anti-ship missiles, and sophisticated sonobuoys for detecting enemy submarines.

An expanded fleet of 18 would grant India persistent monitoring capabilities, which is considered essential to counter the growing presence of China's navy in the region.

The comprehensive package includes training, maintenance support, and spares, with potential economic offsets for Indian industry valued at over $3 billion.

Urgency and Negotiations​

The discussions have gained a new sense of urgency after a brief pause earlier this year.

The Indian Ministry of Defence had halted proceedings due to a potential price increase of up to 50% on the American platforms, which was set to take effect from July 2025. However, recent high-level diplomatic engagements have successfully revived the talks.

The visiting delegation is expected to address India's concerns over cost escalation and discuss the technical integration of indigenous weapon systems, such as the DRDO-developed Naval Anti-Ship Missile-Medium Range (Nasm-MR), onto the P-8I platform.

A successful negotiation could lead to the signing of a Letter of Acceptance by the end of the year.

Renewed Push for Chinook Helicopters​

Alongside the P-8I negotiations, Boeing is actively promoting a follow-on order for its CH-47F Chinook helicopters. The Indian Air Force (IAF) inducted 15 of these tandem-rotor helicopters in 2019, in a deal uniquely financed by the Indian Army.

The Chinooks have proven invaluable for high-altitude operations along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) with China, airlifting troops, equipment, and M777 ultra-light howitzers in challenging Himalayan terrain.

The need for more heavy-lift capability has been amplified since India's fleet of massive Russian Mi-26 helicopters was grounded in 2022 due to supply chain disruptions caused by sanctions following the war in Ukraine.

While the Chinook carries a 10-ton external payload compared to the Mi-26's 20 tons, it is seen as a vital asset for rapid troop and material movement.

However, the path for a new Chinook order is less clear. An earlier option for seven additional helicopters was not pursued due to fiscal priorities and India's increasing focus on its 'Aatmanirbhar Bharat' (Self-Reliant India) policy in defence production.

Boeing is now engaging with both the IAF and the Army, but sources indicate the Army is hesitant to fund another purchase without firm commitments on local manufacturing and technology transfer.

The proposal also faces competition from other platforms and India's own ambitious plan to develop an indigenous multi-role helicopter.
 
Even though we don't like the US, these are two platforms we really have no near-future alternative of. We should at least get more P-8s to counter Chinese sub threats.
 
To be sure, both deals are highly necessary; in fact, IN should in the next few years also aim to induct a further 6 Poseidons, bringing the total to 24 units.
As for the IA, an additional 15 or so Chinooks are imperative, given the unique capabilities they bring to the LAC, while being equally important for natural disaster roles, which have also increased in frequency in North India in recent years.
 
Unfortunately we don't have options...We need these platforms...It's better to spend money on P-8I, Chinook, Apache, C-17 like platforms rather than Striker which has failed repeatedly...15 Chinooks is very less...If we don't give an additional order of Chinooks then it will be a disastrous decision...The same is true for the Army...only 6 Apaches really...what can the Army achieve by 6 Apaches...can anyone tell me...at least 15-20 numbers are required...Our defence acquisition policy is a joke...complete mess...
 
TOT should be made an indispensable item in any purchase to safeguard our own interests / to prevent getting bogged down at vital moments or critical junctures
 
These are very useful platforms and need to be signed ASAP. The IMRH is at least 3 years away, and C-295 for ASW role hasn't even been discussed by Air Force yet. So these are the best options.
 
India should look at what they are offering like the platforms technology, equipment and components etc but we shouldn’t go on a shopping spree just to please the USA. We should state that any purchases can only take place after removing the high tariff rate. If the USA want a weaker China then they need a stronger India to replace them.

In the meantime India should definitely upgrade and extend the life of the Mil 26 helicopters as they are the largest in the world and it can carry a heavier payload which would help in some of the unconnected border regions. They can move heavy supplies, equipment, tools, machinery, supplies, fuel, trucks, essential parts, ammunition etc in major emergencies like in a war, floods, earthquakes, medical crises etc.
 
Unfortunately we don't have options...We need these platforms...It's better to spend money on P-8I, Chinook, Apache, C-17 like platforms rather than Striker which has failed repeatedly...15 Chinooks is very less...If we don't give an additional order of Chinooks then it will be a disastrous decision...The same is true for the Army...only 6 Apaches really...what can the Army achieve by 6 Apaches...can anyone tell me...at least 15-20 numbers are required...Our defence acquisition policy is a joke...complete mess...
Well, we should be having the IAF handing over the Chinooks over to the Army, as well as transfer the Prachand order. Seriously, practically no air force in the world operates attack helicopters by themselves, with these being operated by ground armies instead.

Moreover, we would have a total of 28 Apaches in that situation. A further 12 or so would allow for a decent heavy attack helicopter force, and allow for the retirement of the aging Mi-35 forces.
 

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