Why India Did Not Choose High-Performance EJ200 Variant Over F414 for Tejas Mk2 and AMCA Mk1, Lower Cost and Supply Chain Were Main Factors

Why India Did Not Choose High-Performance EJ200 Variant Over F414 for Tejas Mk2 and AMCA Mk1, Lower Cost and Supply Chain Were Main Factors


India's selection of the engine to power its future fighter aircraft, the Tejas Mk2 and the initial version of the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA Mk1), involved a significant choice between leading global powerplants.

An advanced version of the Eurojet EJ200 engine, known as the EJ230, was a strong competitor but ultimately did not secure the contract.

The EJ230 engine, derived from the EJ200 that powers the Eurofighter Typhoon jets used by several European air forces, was specifically developed to offer increased power. It generates approximately 102 kilonewtons (kN) of thrust with afterburner (wet thrust) and around 72 kN without (dry thrust).

These specifications positioned the EJ230 within the performance range sought by the Indian Air Force (IAF) for its next generation of indigenous fighter jets, making it a notable option during the selection process.

Despite demonstrating attributes like a high thrust-to-weight ratio and potential for future upgrades, the EJ230 was passed over in favour of the F414 engine, manufactured by the American company General Electric (GE).

The GE F414 is a well-established engine, powering prominent international aircraft such as the US Navy's F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and Sweden's Saab Gripen E fighter.

Key factors influenced India's decision towards the GE F414. Reports suggest that GE's proposal was more cost-effective. Furthermore, the F414 comes with a well-established global supply chain and logistical support network.

Crucially, GE's offer was seen as better aligning with India's 'Make in India' initiative, presenting favourable terms for industrial partnerships and enabling domestic production of the engine, which were decisive elements in the selection.

The Eurojet consortium, which includes Rolls-Royce and MTU Aero Engines, also proposed technology transfer and co-development, but the overall package from GE, particularly regarding cost and timely delivery frameworks, proved more persuasive.

The decision represents a missed opportunity for the Eurojet consortium to gain entry into the expanding Indian military aviation market with the EJ230. Securing the contract would have introduced European engine technology into India's fighter development ecosystem, potentially leading to collaborative efforts on developing even more powerful engines for future aircraft requirements.

With the specific variant GE F414-IN20 now confirmed for the Tejas Mk2 and the initial batches of the AMCA Mk1, India has opted for a mature, globally operated, and combat-tested engine system. This choice is expected to streamline the development and induction phases of these critical defence programs.

However, this may not be the end of the road for Eurojet in India. As India progresses with the AMCA program, particularly for later variants, or looks towards developing sixth-generation fighter capabilities, the need for different engine solutions might arise.

The EJ230 or newer engines from the European consortium could potentially re-enter consideration for future Indian defence projects, possibly with a revised and more competitive offer based on lessons learned from this round.

In the meantime, the EJ230 remains a capable engine available for other international fighter programs and potential upgrades for existing Eurofighter fleets.
 
I was pointing out a few things to Akshat. You have completely changed the narrative. You should ask that question to RR or DRDO/HAL/GTRE, not me.
OK Sorry. I dint mean to heart you. Your message above EJ2000 and M88 is 100% true. Sale of Eurofighter is much much higher.
 
It's better to go with RR EJ230 than GE . RR is ready for 100% TOT. GE has lost it's credibility. US is blackmailing India just in the name of engine supply. If the situation remains the same, we may think of latest Russian engines with full TOT. At present scenario Russia do not mind to provide full TOT.
 
EJ 2000 has sold more than twice the number of M88. If not for Germany vetoing Typhoon sales to Saudi Arabia [which they have now backtracked on], which put off other Arab companies buying, EJ2000 sales would be even more.
I am talking about Typhoon vs Rafale here (which are the major applications of the 2 engines). If engines have lower lifecycle and have to be replaced often thus leading to more sales, that's a negative, not positive.

Now, Typhoon had 4 'home' countries. So they of course would buy them. That's why I talked about exports specifically, since that shows the trust of neutral parties in the platform.

A total of 163 export orders have been given for EF Typhoon (Wikipedia). The relevant number of Rafale on backlog for exports itself is 220. This doesn't include the 100+ Rafales already exported. So in neutral markets, Rafale has a far superior reputation bro.
 
The Eurofighter Typhoon programme has seen 680 aircraft ordered by nine nations, with 603 already delivered. Recent sales include new orders from Spain and Italy. Selling to home countries is tough.
 
EJ 2000 has sold more than twice the number of M88. If not for Germany vetoing Typhoon sales to Saudi Arabia [which they have now backtracked on], which put off other Arab companies buying, EJ2000 sales would be even more.
The Eurofighter Typhoon programme has seen 680 aircraft ordered by nine nations, with 603 already delivered. Recent sales include new orders from Spain and Italy. Selling to home countries is not as easy as selling to outside countries. The home countries very much know who is crook.

Comparing a low thrust engine (M88) with a high thrust engine (EJ200) is not correct. The Eurojet EJ200 engine is designed for a life of 6,000 flying hours. GE 414 lifespan is generally considered to be between 6,000 and 8,000 hours.
 
Bharat's industry should develop a pluggable engine module, which can adopt several classes and categories of engines without needing airframe redesign. It may be a little inefficient, though not necessarily, but it will make sure to offer different engine options and prevent vendor lock-in.
 
This Engine is not in production, but a technology concepts, and when it was considered, many of the EU countries did not have a favorite outlook of India, which is not the case today. Also with diverse supply chain, it would have been blocked by any country, an example recently a digital radio was blocked by EU country toying the sanction line.
 

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