Why US Offering F-35 to India Despite Having S-400, While Sanctioned NATO Ally Turkey for Same Reason, Turkish Analysts Cry US Hypocrisy

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Turkish defence analysts have expressed strong criticism of the United States, accusing it of hypocrisy in its defence policies. This criticism stems from reports that the U.S. has offered India the F-35A Lightning II stealth fighter jet despite India's possession of the Russian S-400 air defence system.

This offer starkly contrasts with the treatment of Turkey, a NATO ally, which was expelled from the F-35 program and sanctioned under the Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) for purchasing the same Russian system. Turkish analysts argue that this inconsistency reveals a double standard in U.S. foreign policy, raising concerns about fairness and strategic coherence.

At the heart of this controversy lies the S-400 Triumf, a sophisticated Russian air defence system. The U.S. has long opposed the system's proliferation, fearing its potential to compromise NATO security and gather intelligence on Western military technology, especially the F-35.

Turkey's acquisition of the S-400 in 2017 led to its expulsion from the F-35 program, in which it was a significant participant, and the imposition of CAATSA sanctions in 2020. The U.S. argued that the S-400's radar system could collect sensitive data on the F-35's stealth capabilities, jeopardizing NATO's technological edge.

In contrast, India signed a deal with Russia for five S-400 systems in 2018, with deliveries commencing in 2021. Despite initial threats, the U.S. has not imposed any CAATSA sanctions on India.

Furthermore, recent reports suggest that the U.S. is considering offering India the F-35A through a government-to-government deal. This apparent disparity in treatment has fueled accusations of U.S. hypocrisy from Turkish defence analysts. They argue that if the S-400 poses a security risk, it should be treated as such regardless of the country acquiring it.

However, while the Turkish analysts' concerns highlight a seemingly inconsistent approach, several key differences between India and Turkey's geopolitical situations explain the divergent treatment by the U.S.

NATO Membership and Strategic Priorities​

Turkey, as a NATO member, is bound by alliance commitments and interoperability requirements. Its acquisition of the S-400 was seen as a breach of trust and a potential threat to NATO's integrated defence architecture.

India, on the other hand, is not a NATO member and maintains a non-aligned foreign policy. Its defence decisions do not directly impact NATO's security, allowing the U.S. greater flexibility in its response.

Moreover, the U.S. views India as a crucial partner in its Indo-Pacific strategy to counter China's growing influence. This strategic importance grants India greater leverage compared to Turkey, whose relationship with the U.S. has been strained by various geopolitical disagreements.

Historical Defence Ties and CAATSA Application​

India has a long-standing defence relationship with Russia, which remains its primary arms supplier. The S-400 purchase is a continuation of this historical pattern.

The U.S. acknowledges this reality and seeks to gradually diversify India's defence procurement rather than impose sanctions that could push India further towards Russia.

Furthermore, India's S-400 deal predates the full implementation of CAATSA, providing a degree of legal insulation. Turkey, however, finalized its S-400 deal after CAATSA came into effect, making its actions appear more defiant.

Economic and Strategic Leverage​

India's economic strength and its position as a major military power in the Indo-Pacific region give it significant leverage in negotiations with the U.S. The potential economic benefits of defence deals with India, coupled with its strategic importance, incentivize the U.S. to overlook the S-400 issue.

While Turkey remains a valuable NATO ally, its economic and strategic weight is less significant compared to India, particularly in the Indo-Pacific context.

In conclusion, while Turkish analysts' accusations of U.S. hypocrisy are understandable, they oversimplify a complex geopolitical reality. The U.S. decision to offer the F-35 to India despite its S-400 acquisition is driven by strategic considerations, India's non-NATO status, its historical ties with Russia, and its growing economic and military influence.

While the optics may appear unfair, U.S. foreign policy is ultimately guided by pragmatic national interests and the evolving dynamics of the global security landscape.
 
The biggest thing not mentioned is that the US does not see Turkey as a reliable ally with Erdogan's ambitions and his constant stepping out of line with US expectations!
 
US offering F35 to India only because of China, it is very important for US to counter China and India is the only way that exists.
 
Very good article, the Turks are rightfully miffed about a potential F-35 deal with India, but they fail to take into consideration that India is not a treaty ally of the US or a common alliance member. The US simply wants to sell more arms to India to narrow its trade deficit, and finally, the US definitely sees India as a valuable strategic partner against the PRC.

PS - Also, the Americans are likely playing the long game, as offering a flagship product like the F-35 opens up the large and expanding Indian defence market for decades to come, with big US corporations making deep inroads in the Indian market.
 
Turkey has a great deal of animosity towards Western countries and India. Turkey is essentially a richer version of Pakistan. It is full of hard-core Muslims who are intolerant of other religions. They lack humanity. Turkey should be completely sidelined from the global community, or else it will prove lethal for the world.
 
I see many things at play here. One is outright traditional trademark racism as well as Anglo-Saxon rivalry in Europe with Türkiye going back centuries, while the Western establishment feels threatened by rising Türkiye. They, using right-wing military top brass, even attempted a military coup. This while the West does feel threatened ever by India, largely. I might even add that India is not a belligerent nation at all. It just wants to be left alone. It is also India trapped and virtually forced to commit to buy a low number of the planes it knows it does not need as quid pro quo. Several other countries were similarly forced to prepay for the planes to fund the premier US plane maker.
 
Turkey has a great deal of animosity towards Western countries and India. Turkey is essentially a richer version of Pakistan. It is full of hard-core Muslims who are intolerant of other religions. They lack humanity. Turkey should be completely sidelined from the global community, or else it will prove lethal for the world.
Yeah that's fan fiction. Turks sit at the centre point between Africa, West Asia and Europe. These people sit on some of the rarest piece of land in their neighbourhood, a plateau with enough altitude to sustain a temperate climate. Ottomans and before them the Byzantines stretching back to the Hittites have been major powers for a reason. The kind of illiterate moralist tirades that you engage in makes you sound silly and juvenile. Turks are not our friends and just because they aren't doesn't make them somehow inferior to us. Not every country that we have a rivalry with is as incompetent and poor as Pakistan.
 
The biggest thing not mentioned is that the US does not see Turkey as a reliable ally with Erdogan's ambitions and his constant stepping out of line with US expectations!
Neither are we. Americans have had military assets in Turkey since the Cold War. If anything, Turks have historically been closer to the Americans than we were. Turks have mobilised in almost every war Americans took part in, on their side, going back to the Korean War. To imply that India is somehow a reliable ally to anyone is stupid. Courtesy of our colonial trauma, we have always preferred our autonomy over everything, including our industrial, economic, and technological development. Pick up a history book before saying inane things.
 
Turkey is one of the leading forces resisting Israel in the Muslim world. So the USA can't allow it to have a strategic advantage over Israel. American relationships with Israel are stronger than its NATO ties.
 
Turkey has a great deal of animosity towards Western countries and India. Turkey is essentially a richer version of Pakistan. It is full of hard-core Muslims who are intolerant of other religions. They lack humanity. Turkey should be completely sidelined from the global community, or else it will prove lethal for the world.
On serious note Turkey is nothing like Pakistan, Turkish culture is far more progressive than current India. Turks prefer aligning themselves more with Europe and its culture than West Asia.
 
Trump's offer F35 stealth fighter aircraft to India is just opening up an opportunity for a choice in words only but the Turkish defence analyst butt is already on fire. Indian bureaucrats haven't gone into discussion within Indian stake holders holders just yet. If the IAF is interested but the bureaucrats are not interested nothing is going to come out it. If the bureaucrats finally decided to go with it then comes the real challenge. They will drag the final decision to an unspecified length of time. Therefore there is nothing new going to happen so the Turkish guys can rest in peace.
 
That's why never trust the US, never depend on it. They don't have permanent friends or enemies; it's always changing. China was a close friend as a business/trade partner. Once it started dominating, the US distanced itself.
That's why you must take advantage of situations and geopolitical considerations. The US sees China as its greatest threat now, and it shall remain so in coming decades. China shall continue to grow economically and militarily. The US has to counter them somehow. The best option for the US is to help India, who itself is also threatened by China’s policy. The US might allow India to arm itself with sophisticated Western equipment. This is the chance for India. If we can acquire 40 F-35s from the US, it shall help us counter both China and Pakistan in the air for the next two decades. In the meantime, India shall induct its own stealth fighters too. It's a win-win situation for India.
 
Neither are we. Americans have had military assets in Turkey since the Cold War. If anything, Turks have historically been closer to the Americans than we were. Turks have mobilised in almost every war Americans took part in, on their side, going back to the Korean War. To imply that India is somehow a reliable ally to anyone is stupid. Courtesy of our colonial trauma, we have always preferred our autonomy over everything, including our industrial, economic, and technological development. Pick up a history book before saying inane things.
What you said is partially correct. Turkey was important for the US in the Cold War times to counter USSR. The access to the Black Sea was important for Nato. However, Turkey has become more ambitious, challenging US interests in places like Syria, Iraq and Africa, threatening US allies like Greece, playing all sides—US, Russia, Iran, China etc. Erdogan dreams of the old Ottoman Empire now. Plays as a superpower among Muslim countries, funds ISIS-like organisations together with Qatar. The USA perceives them more as a threat than a friend now. Further, the USA doesn't require Turkey to challenge Russia anymore. The USA might keep its base at Turkey but it doesn't trust them anymore. For the moment, the USA needs India more to challenge China.
 
Turkey has a great deal of animosity towards Western countries and India. Turkey is essentially a richer version of Pakistan. It is full of hard-core Muslims who are intolerant of other religions. They lack humanity. Turkey should be completely sidelined from the global community, or else it will prove lethal for the world.
You have obviously never been to Turkey. Vast majority NOT hard core Muslims. Turks are warm and friendly people. Istanbul is teeming with Indian tourists.
 
Trump's offer F35 stealth fighter aircraft to India is just opening up an opportunity for a choice in words only but the Turkish defence analyst butt is already on fire. Indian bureaucrats haven't gone into discussion within Indian stake holders holders just yet. If the IAF is interested but the bureaucrats are not interested nothing is going to come out it. If the bureaucrats finally decided to go with it then comes the real challenge. They will drag the final decision to an unspecified length of time. Therefore there is nothing new going to happen so the Turkish guys can rest in peace.
Not to mention, the F-35 is not an isolated, one-off platform. It's a heavily integrated and networked platform that requires 5-10 additional subsystems and hardware/equipment that only the US provides. It doesn't work with anything else, and the US won't allow any deeper integration with our Russian systems or give the source codes or TOT. Without any of the support platforms or systems that it networks with and needs, the F-35 is just an expensive, stealthy, RAM-coated missile carrier. (If that's the case, then the Su-57 is a far superior option.)

So there are plenty of hidden costs on top of an already super expensive platform and heavy lifecycle cost. So while the Su-57 might not be as advanced as the F-35, I don't think the F-35 would be any better, especially if India wants to invest in AMCA and have it production-ready anytime soon. (India won't be able to afford more than a handful of F-35s anyway.)
 
That's why you must take advantage of situations and geopolitical considerations. The US sees China as its greatest threat now, and it shall remain so in coming decades. China shall continue to grow economically and militarily. The US has to counter them somehow. The best option for the US is to help India, who itself is also threatened by China’s policy. The US might allow India to arm itself with sophisticated Western equipment. This is the chance for India. If we can acquire 40 F-35s from the US, it shall help us counter both China and Pakistan in the air for the next two decades. In the meantime, India shall induct its own stealth fighters too. It's a win-win situation for India.
I would not say induct F-35, but we can take advantage. Trump already knows that the people of Turkey are a bunch of terrorists and support terrorists. So, he is not going to help them in any way. India has issues with Muslims, and China has the same issues.

Now, other than Trump, as before with Biden, there was a fear he might topple the government.
 
Neither are we. Americans have had military assets in Turkey since the Cold War. If anything, Turks have historically been closer to the Americans than we were. Turks have mobilised in almost every war Americans took part in, on their side, going back to the Korean War. To imply that India is somehow a reliable ally to anyone is stupid. Courtesy of our colonial trauma, we have always preferred our autonomy over everything, including our industrial, economic, and technological development. Pick up a history book before saying inane things.
They do not need Turkey, whose increased Islamization and support of radical Islamists like ISIS is problematic. They need India, with its 1.4 billion population, especially if any war breaks out. This is why Modi should be tough and know his value, instead of buying junk. Buy what we need, like oil, energy, and water treatment plants.
 
You have obviously never been to Turkey. Vast majority NOT hard core Muslims. Turks are warm and friendly people. Istanbul is teeming with Indian tourists.
You need to remember there is Western and Eastern Turkey. Turkey also supports hardcore Islamists like ISIS. With Erdogan, much thinking has changed in Turkey. But cosmopolitan culture exists everywhere. Turkey has a long history of genocides, including the Armenian genocide.
 
The USA doesn’t really care about Turkey and its position in NATO and it’s more or less just baggage.

The USA has to rely on India to counter China and in Asia we are the only other country that can do that as we have a well trained and equipped force with advanced weaponry. We also have nuclear weapons which keeps China on their side of the border.
 
The USA doesn’t really care about Turkey and its position in NATO and it’s more or less just baggage.

The USA has to rely on India to counter China and in Asia we are the only other country that can do that as we have a well trained and equipped force with advanced weaponry. We also have nuclear weapons which keeps China on their side of the border.
Let me state the obvious. Perhaps it would be better for us to not go the Ukraine route and be involved in a proxy war with China just for US global hegemonical ambitions' sake. Our problems with China can be solved with bilateral talks and negotiations (minor on-off instances of incursions aside). For the US, their problems with China CANNOT be solved with simple negotiations. They NEED to start a war with China to halt its rise and hold on to their global unipolar dominance—hence the incessant fearmongering, storm of media psy ops, and "China is going to invade Taiwan" rhetoric.

About Turkey: Turkey is strategically located in the Mediterranean and absolutely crucial for Black Sea trade/naval fleet navigation. It has the second-largest NATO military and an enormous bulwark of industrial strength along with a robust MIC it can bring to bear. It is one of the only reliable stable nations in the ME (compared to other neighbours at least) and has significant political clout in the region. Turkey is strategically indispensable for NATO's southern flank.

Now, I don't know what US foreign policy would be under Trump, but if he's serious about pulling back from the EU, Eastern Europe, the Mediterranean, the Black Sea, and to some part of the ME (I doubt), then yes, Turkey won't be important to the US. But otherwise, nobody can challenge Turkey's place in NATO.
 
These "analysts" forgot the fact that India will be more submissive to the US than Turkey.

USA doesn't want India's attempts to be self-reliant. Today, China and India are the biggest markets for these arms manufacturers, dealers, and lobbyists.

China grew out of control and almost fully self-reliant. I mean FULLY. Unlike "MAKE in India," they followed "DO EVERYTHING (DESIGN, RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT & MAKE) in China," and hence they don't need to import anything worth billions.

So, now India is the only viable market for these salivating and satiating mouths.

And India is easy to manipulate and arm-twist. One stare is all it takes for India to kneel down and fulfill the orders of the US.

See, Trump issued just one threat, that he may increase tariffs for Indian imports. India instantly announced tariff reduction for about 30 American goods.

Trump just asked, "Are you gonna buy more American weapons or what?" India instantly increased the "already allocated budget" to buy American weapons by a couple of billions more.

After they two met, this is what Trump said:

"Starting this year, we are going to increase military sales to India by MANY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS."

So, if Trump says, throw S-400 into junkyard, India will execute that, the very next moment.

So these "analysts" should understand that, if Trump orders India "Junk AMCA, it's a mistake," INDIA WILL GLEEFULLY DO IT. IN FACT INDIA IS GOING TO IT EVENTUALLY, EVEN WITHOUT USA HAVING TO ORDER INDIA, IMHO.
 
That's why never trust the US, never depend on it. They don't have permanent friends or enemies; it's always changing. China was a close friend as a business/trade partner. Once it started dominating, the US distanced itself.
 

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