Opinion With S-400 Shield and Su-57E Sword, How IAF Could Become Unrecoverable Nightmare to Pakistan's Chinese Build Airforce

With S-400 Shield and Su-57E Sword, How IAF Could Become Unrecoverable Nightmare to Pakistan's Chinese Build Airforce


The Indian Air Force (IAF) is actively modernising its combat doctrine by creating a powerful combination of advanced air defence and next-generation offensive capabilities.

A potential deal for Russia's Su-57E fifth-generation stealth fighter, when paired with the already inducted S-400 Triumf air defence system, could fundamentally shift the military balance in South Asia towards India.

This strategic pairing is poised to create a significant technological and tactical advantage that would present an unprecedented challenge to the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) and its largely Chinese-supplied fleet.

India has already operationalised several regiments of the S-400 system following a multi-billion dollar agreement with Russia. These systems are strategically positioned to create a formidable defensive network against aerial threats.

The S-400 is capable of detecting and destroying a wide range of targets—including fighter jets, unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), and both cruise and ballistic missiles—from a distance of up to 400 kilometres.

Its advanced radar and multiple missile types allow it to track and engage dozens of threats at the same time, forming a near-impenetrable shield over a vast area of airspace.

For the Pakistan Air Force, the presence of the S-400 presents a grave operational problem. Its primary combat aircraft, which include the American F-16s and the Chinese-made J-10CE and JF-17 fighters, are non-stealthy and would be vulnerable to detection and engagement by the S-400 long before they could reach their targets within India.

Under such conditions, any large-scale aerial assault would face a high risk of failure and unsustainable losses, severely limiting the PAF's offensive options.

Complementing this defensive shield is the Su-57E, the export model of Russia's most advanced stealth fighter. The aircraft is defined by its fifth-generation characteristics, including a design that minimises its radar signature, highly advanced avionics, exceptional agility (supermanoeuvrability), and the capacity to carry a potent arsenal of long-range precision weapons.

Should the IAF induct the Su-57E, it would serve as the primary tool for penetrating contested airspace, capable of conducting deep strikes against high-value targets while avoiding enemy radar systems.

The true strength of this strategy lies in the seamless integration of these two platforms.

The S-400 would function as a "shield," denying enemy aircraft access to Indian skies and protecting critical national assets. Meanwhile, the Su-57E would act as a "sword," using its stealth features to bypass enemy air defences and neutralise threats in their own territory

This combined capability would effectively box in the PAF, as its aircraft would be threatened by the S-400 near the border and hunted by the Su-57E over their own airspace.

This new reality would likely nullify Pakistan's strategy of compensating for a technological gap with a larger number of aircraft. The wide surveillance net of the S-400 and the stealthy penetration of the Su-57E would undermine the effectiveness of massed formations of 4.5-generation jets.

Furthermore, the psychological impact of facing such an advanced and layered threat would act as a powerful deterrent, restricting the PAF's confidence and operational freedom.

To counter this combination effectively, Pakistan would require its own fleet of stealth aircraft and sophisticated electronic warfare systems—a technological leap that remains many years away.

If India successfully fields both systems, the IAF would establish a level of air superiority in the region that would be exceptionally difficult to challenge.
 
Wow, the amazing Su-57 comes with a drone called Okhotnik, which can be handy in neutralising SEAD/DEAD missions without risking human life. It will have the advantage of combat range, as well as weapon-carrying capacity.

Plus, the Su-57 can fire heavy hypersonic missiles, as well as air-to-air long-range missiles like the R-37M and K-77M, plus the indigenous GANDIV, which has a 300+ km range in its internal weapon bay. The Su-57 can carry more payload than the Super Sukhoi, apart from heavy weaponry.

With specific customisation, it will be a handy platform with advanced sensors and 360-degree detection coverage; it will act like an eagle in the sky.

Under Make in India, just 60 odd jets will not be viable in the long term; this figure is going to touch the three-digit magic figure of 100.
 
Given the pace at which the "desi fighter" programs are progressing and the direction in which geopolitics is shifting, the Su-57 MKI looks like a viable solution, a fighter to complement Su-30MKIs. While India should continue working in parallel for Tejas MKII and AMCA, it will be wise to keep the other fighters in the arsenal, else adversaries will leap ahead in terms of technology.
 
Given the pace at which the "desi fighter" programs are progressing and the direction in which geopolitics is shifting, the Su-57 MKI looks like a viable solution, a fighter to complement Su-30MKIs. While India should continue working in parallel for Tejas MKII and AMCA, it will be wise to keep the other fighters in the arsenal, else adversaries will leap ahead in terms of technology.
Or a much better alternative would be to let the private sector run amok instead of relying on DRDO/HAL. Just see how quickly our drone sector (smaller drones, not MALE and HALE where DRDO still has a monopoly) expanded and now we can make nearly all kinds of drones in-house for our forces. Buying some junk like the Su-57 won't make much of a difference. First, it is pretty much useless as even Russia has refused to induct it in numbers originally planned, and India and China have refused to induct it either. Secondly, China has had free access to it, so there is no secrecy and thus no stealth either. So we should look at other alternatives instead of wasting money there.
 
90 Rafale + 50-60 SU-57 + 7-8 Squadrons of S-400... Along with our indigenous platforms... Now, think about the lethality of this combo... The government should not waste any time and go for these deals...
 
This sword and shield combination is an utter failure in the Ukraine war. The sword is scared to even come out of its sheath against '90s fighter jets and ground SAM sites.
 
Or a much better alternative would be to let the private sector run amok instead of relying on DRDO/HAL. Just see how quickly our drone sector (smaller drones, not MALE and HALE where DRDO still has a monopoly) expanded and now we can make nearly all kinds of drones in-house for our forces. Buying some junk like the Su-57 won't make much of a difference. First, it is pretty much useless as even Russia has refused to induct it in numbers originally planned, and India and China have refused to induct it either. Secondly, China has had free access to it, so there is no secrecy and thus no stealth either. So we should look at other alternatives instead of wasting money there.
Private players have proven themselves to be unreliable because of no bid from their side to produce the AMCA. They say they are happy being 'screwdriver crew' tier 1 suppliers for HAL because it's low risk, high reward.

The government has a very lenient policy towards drones made by the private sector, but all those drones are just assembled in India, dependent entirely on foreign engines. Even DRDO is reliant on foreign engines. It's pathetic that a country as large as ours, with a large automobile and aeronautical manufacturing base, can't make a simple, efficient drone engine or a capable indigenous drone.

As for the Chinese disinterest in the Su-57, it's very natural, considering they had the J-20 long before Russia was flying the Su-57. The J-35 is a similar platform, and they are moving forward to the 6th gen. China already surpassed Russia in aeronautics. The Chinese never had access to the real Su-57, just the prototypes, just like us.
 
This sword and shield combination is an utter failure in the Ukraine war. The sword is scared to even come out of its sheath against '90s fighter jets and ground SAM sites.
Exactly! If you have to hide your Su-57 in the most dire times of the war, then it's a sh it aircraft.

It has no stealth, so they are worried about losing it to Patriot missiles in Ukraine.

Let's be honest about it, the Su-57 is a 4+ aircraft because it lacks stealth. The main mission of a 5th gen is to eliminate air defences of the enemy, and they have not done that at all in Ukraine.
 
90 Rafale + 50-60 SU-57 + 7-8 Squadrons of S-400... Along with our indigenous platforms... Now, think about the lethality of this combo... The government should not waste any time and go for these deals...
If you are prepared to wait, by 2035 Russia may build 50-60 SU-57s. Then, just pray that China will allow its vassal to sell them to you. If it does, you could guess how bad the planes actually are.
 
This sword and shield combination is an utter failure in the Ukraine war. The sword is scared to even come out of its sheath against '90s fighter jets and ground SAM sites.
The role of fighter jets in the Ukraine war has been significantly more restricted compared to drones, UAVs, and long-range missiles. With the West continuing to supply Ukraine with advanced air defense systems like NASAMS, IRIS-T, and Patriot batteries, deploying fighter jets into such heavily contested airspace carries a high risk of losses. This risk is particularly critical for Russia, given its limited number of Su-57s.
 
Or a much better alternative would be to let the private sector run amok instead of relying on DRDO/HAL. Just see how quickly our drone sector (smaller drones, not MALE and HALE where DRDO still has a monopoly) expanded and now we can make nearly all kinds of drones in-house for our forces. Buying some junk like the Su-57 won't make much of a difference. First, it is pretty much useless as even Russia has refused to induct it in numbers originally planned, and India and China have refused to induct it either. Secondly, China has had free access to it, so there is no secrecy and thus no stealth either. So we should look at other alternatives instead of wasting money there.
Russia didn't refuse to induct it, more like they could not do it since their industry was hit by the sanctions and war. They are now going to make a better version of the su57 that will run on the al51 along with better radar and stealth features and that could very well be utilized by India if we modify it and make an MKI. China on the other hand is not going to ever buy Russian jets now. The su35 was their last purchase and its gonna be like that. They have their own j20s made in numbers that far exceed Russians su57 just on the base on their superior industial capabilities.
 
If you are prepared to wait, by 2035 Russia may build 50-60 SU-57s. Then, just pray that China will allow its vassal to sell them to you. If it does, you could guess how bad the planes actually are.
The su57s won't be made in Russia but rather here in india
 
Exactly! If you have to hide your Su-57 in the most dire times of the war, then it's a sh it aircraft.

It has no stealth, so they are worried about losing it to Patriot missiles in Ukraine.

Let's be honest about it, the Su-57 is a 4+ aircraft because it lacks stealth. The main mission of a 5th gen is to eliminate air defences of the enemy, and they have not done that at all in Ukraine.
Add to that, it doesn't have long-range precision-guided munitions that can be launched from a Su-57 internal weapons bay to carry out SEAD and DEAD missions.
 
Exactly! If you have to hide your Su-57 in the most dire times of the war, then it's a sh it aircraft.

It has no stealth, so they are worried about losing it to Patriot missiles in Ukraine.

Let's be honest about it, the Su-57 is a 4+ aircraft because it lacks stealth. The main mission of a 5th gen is to eliminate air defences of the enemy, and they have not done that at all in Ukraine.
Radar technology is advancing so fast that stealth is already becoming useless in front of ultra-low-frequency and very-high-frequency radars. Air-based radars like Virupaksha can detect 5th-gen aircraft, and ground-based can already detect 6th-gen.
 
@sujith sudhakaran
Why is the Government of India (GoI) forcing a bid from a private player? Why can't it adopt a model similar to the C295? With resources available to HAL, there is no way a private consortium can outbid it. This is similar to Indian naval bids by state-owned shipbuilders where they sometimes put in bids incurring losses to put competition from L&T away, as they know that they can sustain using already existing asset monetizations.
 
Radar technology is advancing so fast that stealth is already becoming useless in front of ultra-low-frequency and very-high-frequency radars. Air-based radars like Virupaksha can detect 5th-gen aircraft, and ground-based can already detect 6th-gen.
Detection and targeting are very different. You can't track and guide missiles using VHF radars.
 
Add to that, it doesn't have long-range precision-guided munitions that can be launched from a Su-57 internal weapons bay to carry out SEAD and DEAD missions.
You mean Anti-Radiation missile. Yes, Russians have none in their inventory for SU-57. Kh-31 is a massive failure of an anti-radiation missile. Nobody used it ever, including Russians.

Russian war tactics never focused on using Air Force in an offensive manner. Their whole focus was for defence only. Their tactics are decades behind.

They recently started jugaad with precision-guided munition after Ukraine beat them black and blue with JDAMs. Russian air-to-ground is still not precise compared to JDAMs.
 
Or a much better alternative would be to let the private sector run amok instead of relying on DRDO/HAL. Just see how quickly our drone sector (smaller drones, not MALE and HALE where DRDO still has a monopoly) expanded and now we can make nearly all kinds of drones in-house for our forces. Buying some junk like the Su-57 won't make much of a difference. First, it is pretty much useless as even Russia has refused to induct it in numbers originally planned, and India and China have refused to induct it either. Secondly, China has had free access to it, so there is no secrecy and thus no stealth either. So we should look at other alternatives instead of wasting money there.
There is a difference bw manufacturing drones & fighter jets. Our indigenous jets like Tejas MK2 & AMCA induction will start around 2035.
So what stop gap solution we have other then importing jets...???
 
This sword and shield combination is an utter failure in the Ukraine war. The sword is scared to even come out of its sheath against '90s fighter jets and ground SAM sites.
S-400 was game changer in op sindoor & we know how to use these in integration. so currently india using it more efficiently then Russia.

If you don't know how to use a weapon then it's your fault , not the weapon.
 
You mean Anti-Radiation missile. Yes, Russians have none in their inventory for SU-57. Kh-31 is a massive failure of an anti-radiation missile. Nobody used it ever, including Russians.

Russian war tactics never focused on using Air Force in an offensive manner. Their whole focus was for defence only. Their tactics are decades behind.

They recently started jugaad with precision-guided munition after Ukraine beat them black and blue with JDAMs. Russian air-to-ground is still not precise compared to JDAMs.
Really?? Ukraine beating them black and blue?? Tell me does Russia hold 20% of Ukraines territory or does Ukraine hold even 2% of Russian territory. It might be pertinent to mention here that Ukraine has also received 100 of billion $$ of equipment from the West.

My simple point being, kindly stick to facts. If you want to call Russian equipment as junk, it is your right to your opinion, but please do not misrepresent facts on the ground.
 
Or a much better alternative would be to let the private sector run amok instead of relying on DRDO/HAL. Just see how quickly our drone sector (smaller drones, not MALE and HALE where DRDO still has a monopoly) expanded and now we can make nearly all kinds of drones in-house for our forces. Buying some junk like the Su-57 won't make much of a difference. First, it is pretty much useless as even Russia has refused to induct it in numbers originally planned, and India and China have refused to induct it either. Secondly, China has had free access to it, so there is no secrecy and thus no stealth either. So we should look at other alternatives instead of wasting money there.
Russians should stop pushing this deadass fighter to us. We've already pulled out a decade ago from this program. Even if they gave us full ToT, why should we buy? It's not even a 5th generation as you said it. We've already have multiple 4.5 generation fighters. We need an actual 5th generation, not the Slavic Special Ed version of 5th generation.
 

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