ADA Tejas Mark II: India's Next-Gen Fighter - Discuss the Future!

[beencensured]

The MK2 can best try to equal the gripen E IF everything goes well. This self praising saying that it is the best fighter in the world should stop. even the chinese dont do it.Only Pakistan does it regarding the jf-17.

Like the Tejas whipped the grippen c&d so will tejas mk Ii kick both rafale and grippen e.

 

[Jay K Sinhal]

Two most important things, adhering to a timeline and quality control will decide the course of Indian aerospace industry.

 

[Aayush Dhaundiyal]

I don't know mate, the say have vision and pushing the marketing but the factory output is redundant. Most likely the Tejas ii will start post production of 1a(likely 2030) by then no one would be interested. Even then the production rate would barely be meeting domestic demands. If the claim of TOT then it will be the biggest bogus as how dependable would it be when HAL is crawling in ints own country.

 

[charminar_waale_ismail_bhai]

1. The aircraft is several years behind schedule, and still not on the ground actually.
2. HAL has proven to be incapable of efficiency production rates.
3. A number of foreign orders don't go through because the Tejas has equipment from way too many nations running it.
4. Private players haven't been invited, and they haven't shown interest either, simply because of a lack of sustained orders.

With all that said and done and with improvement on those aspects not exactly visible, are you still sticking to your point?

We don't take Frank very seriously over here.

 

[charminar_waale_ismail_bhai]

As for the production capacity, HAL claims they are working on increasing it, but I'll believe it when it actually happens.

By "increasing production capacity" they were referring to the production capacity of Samosas for the HAL staff.

 

[Anant]

By "increasing production capacity" they were referring to the production capacity of Samosas for the HAL staff.

Don't forget the new stoves they are getting for Chai, boss.

 

[Anant]

We don't take Frank very seriously over here.

Oh, I know. Anyone who feels you can get world-beating military equipment simply by having the best minds (and nothing else) can't be taken seriously on a forum such as this.

I just posted that as an indication of just how far we are.

 

[Rajsn]

I hope you had the brains to understand that more export orders means our forces can buy more, we can spend more on R&D.

For that you need Enough Production !!! LOL

 

[Rajsn]

Good

Africa
south east asia
middle east
south east asia

are our target

also private production line should be started

Dillusional. You forgetting HAL's track record .....

 

[Rajsn]

Oh, I know. Anyone who feels you can get world-beating military equipment simply by having the best minds (and nothing else) can't be taken seriously on a forum such as this.

We can not even claim to have worlds Best minds , looking at our DPSU's Record & performance.....or Non Performance. Lol

 

[Rajsn]

Laudable efforts.. however the engine issue with GE must be sorted out before dreaming.. 20 engines/yr from GE will not be sufficient for combined internal & export orders..

Can HAL even produce 20 Aircraft a year .....lol

 

[Pink Panther]

What a joke. Fix your production first.

HAL, can you make a prototype first.

 

[Pink Panther]

Like the Tejas whipped the grippen c&d so will tejas mk Ii kick both rafale and grippen e.

and Eurofighter Typhoon.

 

[Pink Panther]

there is no official statement of the MOD regarding export of the MK2.

it is not just reported by Kunde, it is all over the internet in many news media, I think HAL pays to spread these kind of rumor.

 

[Anant]

We can not even claim to have worlds Best minds , looking at our DPSU's Record & performance.....or Non Performance. Lol

Frank here has the idea that if we were to take the top 100 or so engineers graduating from IITs each year and put them to work in our DPSUs, then we will have an aircraft engine ready within a decade. He completely ignores other things such as funding, infrastructure, company culture, testing experience, etc.

 

[desigandu]

Good goals, but it is pie in the sky as of now...We must fix DRDO + HAL and deliver domestically before dreaming about these exports...Just compare DRDO+HAL on one side with ISRO+BARC on the other side and it is worth asking why needs to change, and how fast...India cannot be military power without a transformed DRDO+HAL...I love India and wish it very well, but at the same time am realistic about the possibilities...Change is hard (I have 25+ years of experience as a global strategy consultant) and I know what it takes....Unless there is clear political vision, backed up with a strategy, hard choices and a relentless pursuit of delivering it - it tends to fail or is half-baked.

 

[NSR]

We have some 160 Jaguars, 55 Mirage 2000s, and 75 MiG-29s in the IAF. That works out to 280 fighters in total. Now, if the UAF procures 180 Tejas Mk 2 aircraft (10 squadrons) plus trainers, then they can recoup the present squadron strength once you add in the 114 MRFA aircraft. The main catalysts to grow squadron strength seem to be the Tejas Mk 1A, and eventually, the AMCA.

Works out to 290 actually + all those Mig-27s, 25s, 23s, etc which were retired and never replaced = 300 to 400 Tejas Mk 2s.

Tejas IAs with a drop tank or two will replace many of the Mig-21s.

114 MRFA * $300 millions or more by the time India awards it will come to $34+ billions.
Too costly to even think about them, and India will not get any TOTs from anyone at all.
May be 36 additional Rafales for IAF will do.

Send rest of the money to Tejas Mk 2, TEDBF and AMCA, and of course fighter engine development and manufacturing at WARP SPEED.

 

[RonitBisht]

Tejas MkII Getting Ready for Assembly with First Flight Expected in 2026​

The Tejas MkII, the next-generation fighter aircraft of the Indian Air Force (IAF), is progressing at a rapid pace, with the completion of assembly fixtures and jigs anticipated by late 2024. This makes it possible for assembly, which has been planned since late 2023, to start by the end of this year.

The programme sets component priorities according to delivery times in order to optimise the assembly process. Orders for components with longer lead times have already been placed, and orders for parts that can be manufactured more quickly will follow. This prevents delays and ensures a constant flow of materials.

According to the present plan, Tejas MkII will be launched by the end of 2025, with its first flight scheduled for 2026. The program's creators, HAL-ADA, have two years to approve the aircraft for basic weapon integration so that limited production may begin by 2028. Phase-by-phase clearance of sophisticated weapons has been assumed by the IAF.

The IAF will initially replace its ageing Jaguar squadrons with Tejas MkIIs, then its fleets of Mirage-2000 and MiG-29. By 2040, the audacious plan hopes to acquire around 200 units, greatly enhancing the IAF's capabilities.

 

[Pink Panther]

Let Tejas MK2 prototype gear up fast.

 

[yogesh]

Great news. Many squadrons can be established!

 

[Anant]

Sure, go ahead. Let's actually see when it happens rather tha counting our chickens before the eggs hatch.

 

[charminar_waale_ismail_bhai]

Duggal Saab aaj "Gear up" kar rahe hain.

 

[charminar_waale_ismail_bhai]

Let Tejas MK2 prototype gear up fast.

Let HAL canteen gear up first.

 

[charminar_waale_ismail_bhai]

Many squadrons can be established!

If left to HAL, yeah. In high quality 3D renders.

 

[desigandu]

Good, but HAL and DRDO need to deliver Tejas Mk2 jets on these already delayed timelines...India really needs scale production before 2030 - looks 50/50, at this time.

 

[NSR]

That would be really wonderful if HAL can meet the milestone, but we have seen too many times about milestone changes with Tejas Mk IA.
I pray and hope.

 

[Ramsses CDXX]

#EkKoDas - DasKoPachhas - PacchasKoHazaar

Phir se.....Hainnn. Ab bas kar de❗ Baar-baar likhne se time compression/time dilation hota hai kya. 2028-29 tak induction ho jayega ❓❓❓ Give HAL, ADA & "us" some breathing space, bhai. It is a long drawn process and no one should cut corners in the name of "Gearing Up-Down-Left-Right" The Cabinet Committee on Security had cleared the LCA project in September 2022.

Prabhulla Chandran VK, director of avionics and weapons systems at the ADA:

Tejas Mk 2 light combat aircraft to be ready for first flight by 2025 with India US Jet Engine Deal | India News - Times of India

India News: The much-delayed, India-made Tejas Mk 2 light combat aircraft (LCA) could be ready for its maiden flight by 2025 with an American engine, according to

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

 

[Prashu Sam]

First Flight in 2026
Development Trials will finish by 2032
Orders Placed by 2034
First 2 aircrafts in 2036
It will be outdated before even born.

Turkey/South Korea will have 5th Gen Fighter by then produced and in service and India will be "developing, gearing"

 

[Aravind]

2026 again 😂😂😂😆

 

[Shrujanam Syama]

First Flight in 2026
Development Trials will finish by 2032
Orders Placed by 2034
First 2 aircrafts in 2036
It will be outdated before even born.

Turkey/South Korea will have 5th Gen Fighter by then produced and in service and India will be "developing, gearing"

Mk2 will be expedited as it is based on Mk1 and is tested. Likely by 2032 itself it will undergo mass production