ADA Tejas Mark II: India's Next-Gen Fighter - Discuss the Future!

Laudable efforts.. however the engine issue with GE must be sorted out before dreaming.. 20 engines/yr from GE will not be sufficient for combined internal & export orders..
Can HAL even produce 20 Aircraft a year .....lol
 
We can not even claim to have worlds Best minds , looking at our DPSU's Record & performance.....or Non Performance. Lol
Frank here has the idea that if we were to take the top 100 or so engineers graduating from IITs each year and put them to work in our DPSUs, then we will have an aircraft engine ready within a decade. He completely ignores other things such as funding, infrastructure, company culture, testing experience, etc.
 
Good goals, but it is pie in the sky as of now...We must fix DRDO + HAL and deliver domestically before dreaming about these exports...Just compare DRDO+HAL on one side with ISRO+BARC on the other side and it is worth asking why needs to change, and how fast...India cannot be military power without a transformed DRDO+HAL...I love India and wish it very well, but at the same time am realistic about the possibilities...Change is hard (I have 25+ years of experience as a global strategy consultant) and I know what it takes....Unless there is clear political vision, backed up with a strategy, hard choices and a relentless pursuit of delivering it - it tends to fail or is half-baked.
 
We have some 160 Jaguars, 55 Mirage 2000s, and 75 MiG-29s in the IAF. That works out to 280 fighters in total. Now, if the UAF procures 180 Tejas Mk 2 aircraft (10 squadrons) plus trainers, then they can recoup the present squadron strength once you add in the 114 MRFA aircraft. The main catalysts to grow squadron strength seem to be the Tejas Mk 1A, and eventually, the AMCA.
Works out to 290 actually + all those Mig-27s, 25s, 23s, etc which were retired and never replaced = 300 to 400 Tejas Mk 2s.

Tejas IAs with a drop tank or two will replace many of the Mig-21s.

114 MRFA * $300 millions or more by the time India awards it will come to $34+ billions.
Too costly to even think about them, and India will not get any TOTs from anyone at all.
May be 36 additional Rafales for IAF will do.

Send rest of the money to Tejas Mk 2, TEDBF and AMCA, and of course fighter engine development and manufacturing at WARP SPEED.
 

Tejas MkII Getting Ready for Assembly with First Flight Expected in 2026​

The Tejas MkII, the next-generation fighter aircraft of the Indian Air Force (IAF), is progressing at a rapid pace, with the completion of assembly fixtures and jigs anticipated by late 2024. This makes it possible for assembly, which has been planned since late 2023, to start by the end of this year.

The programme sets component priorities according to delivery times in order to optimise the assembly process. Orders for components with longer lead times have already been placed, and orders for parts that can be manufactured more quickly will follow. This prevents delays and ensures a constant flow of materials.

According to the present plan, Tejas MkII will be launched by the end of 2025, with its first flight scheduled for 2026. The program's creators, HAL-ADA, have two years to approve the aircraft for basic weapon integration so that limited production may begin by 2028. Phase-by-phase clearance of sophisticated weapons has been assumed by the IAF.

The IAF will initially replace its ageing Jaguar squadrons with Tejas MkIIs, then its fleets of Mirage-2000 and MiG-29. By 2040, the audacious plan hopes to acquire around 200 units, greatly enhancing the IAF's capabilities.
 
Sure, go ahead. Let's actually see when it happens rather tha counting our chickens before the eggs hatch.
 
Good, but HAL and DRDO need to deliver Tejas Mk2 jets on these already delayed timelines...India really needs scale production before 2030 - looks 50/50, at this time.
 
That would be really wonderful if HAL can meet the milestone, but we have seen too many times about milestone changes with Tejas Mk IA.
I pray and hope.
 
#EkKoDas - DasKoPachhas - PacchasKoHazaar

Phir se.....Hainnn. Ab bas kar de Baar-baar likhne se time compression/time dilation hota hai kya. 2028-29 tak induction ho jayega ❓❓❓ Give HAL, ADA & "us" some breathing space, bhai. It is a long drawn process and no one should cut corners in the name of "Gearing Up-Down-Left-Right" The Cabinet Committee on Security had cleared the LCA project in September 2022.

Prabhulla Chandran VK, director of avionics and weapons systems at the ADA:
 
First Flight in 2026
Development Trials will finish by 2032
Orders Placed by 2034
First 2 aircrafts in 2036
It will be outdated before even born.

Turkey/South Korea will have 5th Gen Fighter by then produced and in service and India will be "developing, gearing"
 
First Flight in 2026
Development Trials will finish by 2032
Orders Placed by 2034
First 2 aircrafts in 2036
It will be outdated before even born.

Turkey/South Korea will have 5th Gen Fighter by then produced and in service and India will be "developing, gearing"
Mk2 will be expedited as it is based on Mk1 and is tested. Likely by 2032 itself it will undergo mass production
 

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