Adani-Elbit Team Targets Indian Army Mounted Gun Contract with Customized ATMOS

Adani Defence and Aerospace, partnering with Elbit Systems, is gearing up to compete for a major Indian Army contract: 800 Mounted Gun Systems (MGS). They plan to offer a customized system based on Elbit's respected ATMOS 155mm/52 calibre truck-mounted howitzer, produced largely in India.

What Makes the ATMOS Special

• Adaptable: Can be mounted on various 6x6 or 8x8 truck platforms, chosen by the customer.
• Crew Focus: The protected cabin fits 2-6 crew comfortably, even in harsh climates thanks to advanced air conditioning.
• Tech-Ready Accepts cutting-edge systems: navigation, battlefield displays, fire control, and more, for precision and awareness.

Competition Ahead

Adani-Elbit's ATMOS-based system will face stiff competition from the DRDO-Kalyani 155mm/52 calibre truck-mounted howitzer, based on India's own Advanced Towed Artillery Gun System (ATAGS). Adani also intends to offer a towed version of the ATMOS for the Army's 400-unit Towed Gun System (TGS) tender. This sets up a clash between local and imported technology.

 

[Baba Baati Baachur]

I can’t support treason, sorry. When DRDO intentionally makes sure that Indian army can’t buy the requisite number of guns, I can’t support that. Support Bharat 52 or even Dhanush 52. It’s also ok if we try and fail to develop something world class and are a generation or 2 behind. But this sort of open treason, nope. Can’t do. Can’t support that.

And ur beloved Army was sleeping all this time during design development and testing of ATAGS that it could not realize the gun is 3+ kgs overweight???

Whom r u fooling dear Akshat?

 

[Ajath]

Sorry Adani,... It's in nagative import list

Adani is an Indian company and it has business partnership with Elbit . So the product effectively comes under MAKE IN INDIA category.So how does it xome under negative Import ? Example HERMES UAV is manufactured in India and Indian defence services are inducting the aerial platforms.

 

[Sandeep]

Well if you had read DAP, you would know that there are 5 categories under which defense items can be procured. 3 of those qualify as made in India. These include Buy (IDDM), Buy (I), and Buy and Make (India). And now up to 100% FDI is also allowed in Defense. So, pursuant to varying degrees of indigenous content as requisite under the respective category, products from foreign vendors can be made in India even if they are in the import ban list. And they don’t even need an Indian partner. They can set up a subsidiary wholly owned by them. The import ban list is only related to how much of the actual manufacturing happens on Indian soil. Not about the product development or the manufacturer itself.

India already has many indigenous companies that make 100% of the gun entirely by themselves without any foreign content. Also priority will go to Indian companies who make it entirely over those made with foreign content or partnered with another foreign company. Also except for SAAB no other foreign company has decided to invest 100% of their company in India to make 100% of their weapon.

 

[Instant Karma]

Sorry Adani,... It's in nagative import list

Don't worry. He has the 56 inch in his pocket. Rules can be changed for him.

 

[Ajath]

And ur beloved Army was sleeping all this time during design development and testing of ATAGS that it could not realize the gun is 3+ kgs overweight???

Whom r u fooling dear Akshat?

It's has not slept. On the contrary it has recorded its observations and corrections to be made. And DRDO has taken cognisance of the report .

 

[Sandeep]

Then you didn't understand 50% components should be indigenous component with total manufacturing in India only.

That’s the bare minimum that’s required if they partner with an Indian company if they make a foreign weapon. The key point here is that we have already got several Indian companies that have designed 100% of the entire gun by themselves who will get priority over those that use foreign guns or parts of a gun.

 

[Vijigishu ( विजिग्शु )]

What's going on - fist LT offered Elbit's Athos towed gun and now Adanis offering their Atmos mounted gun! Looks like after LT's ATMANIRBHAR screw driver assembly plant in Gujarat, even Adani's new ATMANIRBHAR screw driver assembly plant in UP is 'IDLING'.

Infinitely better than dpsu delaying any order till eternity.

 

[beencensured]

Why wasted tax payers money in designing ATAGS when you wish to take Israeli weapons for cash back.
It should never be allowed to take products which are designed in India.
These private companies will grease the palms and do assembling in the name of make in India and never allow our design skills to grow.

Israel found a capable agent to cripple India's domestic development and put in their spy ware. Five eyes must be pleased with Adani.

 

[charminar_waale_ismail_bhai]

Don't worry. He has the 56 inch in his pocket. Rules can be changed for him.

Apne asli ID sei aao Raul Gandhy.

 

[NSR]

Absolutely, positively, and flatly a BIG NO.
We no longer need foreign maals in Howitzers areas, except South Korean K-9 Vajras.
Only Indian Howitzers of all kinds, and also 200 K-9 Vajras if SK cedes gun TOT and 100% localization.

 

[DMS]

Akshat is nothing but a idiot suffering for inferiority complex, who thinks everything imported is better

 

[Akshat]

And ur beloved Army was sleeping all this time during design development and testing of ATAGS that it could not realize the gun is 3+ kgs overweight???

Whom r u fooling dear Akshat?

Not 3+ kg, 3 tons.

And again, I would refer you to the DAP 2020. It clearly states the procedure. Army has not been given any role in the matter except providing specs and conducting trials.

 

[Akshat]

India already has many indigenous companies that make 100% of the gun entirely by themselves without any foreign content. Also priority will go to Indian companies who make it entirely over those made with foreign content or partnered with another foreign company. Also except for SAAB no other foreign company has decided to invest 100% of their company in India to make 100% of their weapon.

Not my contention. But his is what you said.

“ There is currently a ban and embargo of importing any foreign guns as our indigenous guns meet the military requirements.”

I am just pointing out that you should read DAP before spreading rumors. If made in India by Adani (or any other Indian registered entity), with requisite indigenous content, the gun will qualify as indigenous gun.

 

[Akshat]

Not a good sign, domestic defense industry’s future is really bleak.

As long as DRDO and DPSUs spearhead it, yes.

 

[Akshat]

MGS tender should have been IDDM category.
No chance for any guns other than ATAGS MGS, Dhanush MGS (though plagued by manufacturing delaus) or Kalyani's Bahrat 52 MGS (if they can develop one).

Now that ATAGS is "overweight", (even though they satisfy all Army's needs just except the weight) and not much towed systems shall be bought, Army should go with the MGS variant.

Except ‘just’ the weight? And why exactly did DRDO decide to violate the most important requirement, stated as a critical requirement by the army? Can you please answer that? And please don’t tell me that the extra weight is due to the extra features. No one asked for those features. But army asked for the right weight. So you are giving them something they don’t need and taking away something they absolutely require.

 

[Akshat]

It can be sold to India if 50% component is indigenous and manufacture in india.

50% is for IDDM. For Buy (Indian), it is 60%.

 

[Akshat]

Don't worry. He has the 56 inch in his pocket. Rules can be changed for him.

Oh rules are only changed for DRDO. Like how they forced the army to buy brand new trucks when they didn’t meet the ASQRs for their ATAGS junk.

 

[Akshat]

Akshat is nothing but a idiot suffering for inferiority complex, who thinks everything imported is better

Awww…and you have to name me just to get some attention. So much of superiority complex.

 

[Instant Karma]

Oh rules are only changed for DRDO. Like how they forced the army to buy brand new trucks when they didn’t meet the ASQRs for their ATAGS junk.

You want to say that ATAGS and TATA, ashok Leyland and TATRA trucks are junk.

 

[sujit raj]

like I predicted, earlier. low and behold the mighty ATMOS will make it into the Indian Army, like Hermes 900. we will keep cribbing on this forum, shame on the corrupt people, who are cheating India. Shame on us, who are not raising our voices

 

[Akshat]

You want to say that ATAGS and TATA, ashok Leyland and TATRA trucks are junk.

ATAGS is the name of the towed system. Designed by DRDO. It much doesn’t meet the army’s requirements, aka, junk.

 

[Ramsses CDXX]

DaawatParSabkoBulao 🥗🌮🍲🍛

Not only Elbit, invite Nexter, BAe & Krauss-Maffei for a fair & open trial. Let pvt. cos. form SPs with foreign OEM. DRDO will get a "reality check" on its MGS by competing with some of the world's best❗

 

[amerjit johal]

Israel found a capable agent to cripple India's domestic development and put in their spy ware. Five eyes must be pleased with Adani.

I agree that the Isreal have found many capable agents and they are all rubbing their hands with happiness.
BUT WTF has five eyes got to do with this.

 

[beencensured]

I agree that the Isreal have found many capable agents and they are all rubbing their hands with happiness.
BUT WTF has five eyes got to do with this.

When you grow up you will find Israel are in double deals.

 

[Borodine]

Sorry Adani,... It's in nagative import list

Adani owns the government. He will simply stick a made in India tag on this gun as he did with the hermes. He is a Gujju after all.

 

[Amit Ray]

Absolutely, positively, and flatly a BIG NO.
We no longer need foreign maals in Howitzers areas, except South Korean K-9 Vajras.
Only Indian Howitzers of all kinds, and also 200 K-9 Vajras if SK cedes gun TOT and 100% localization.

So who will supply the army's requirements? Did you notice the numbers needed, 800, is there any single vendor capable of supplying so many . Perhaps you can help.

 

[Amit Ray]

Adani owns the government. He will simply stick a made in India tag on this gun as he did with the hermes. He is a Gujju after all.

Stupid, it's made in India.

 

[Amit Ray]

Not a good sign, domestic defense industry’s future is really bleak.

The defence industry has just started walking, future is bright provided this government stays on.

 

[Pink Panther]

The defence industry has just started walking, future is bright provided this government stays on.

but if they keep buying foreign products when there is comparable locally made product, then what is the point.

 

[Prashu Sam]

like I predicted, earlier. low and behold the mighty ATMOS will make it into the Indian Army, like Hermes 900. we will keep cribbing on this forum, shame on the corrupt people, who are cheating India. Shame on us, who are not raising our voices

Stage is set, drum beats are on and paid agent will be active in forums, social media and news world to start slowly poisoning the mind of innocent Indians. How great ATHOS is, how is it made in India (with indian name ) and how it will generate revenue in Gujrat etc. Bhakt will fall for it.

Just a sad story where party/local interest place before country.