DRDO Struggles with Ramjet Tech Challenges in Astra Mk3 Missile Program, Full Development Still Years Away

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India's ambitious Astra Mk3 air-to-air missile program, a cornerstone of its future air defence capabilities, is facing significant delays as the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) grapples with technological challenges related to its ramjet propulsion system. A DRDO official confirmed that while the missile's booster has been successfully tested, the program's overall progress is lagging behind initial expectations.

The Astra Mk3, also known as the Solid Fuel Ducted Ramjet (SFDR), is a next-generation beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile designed to leverage solid fuel ramjet technology. This technology promises to deliver supersonic speeds, extended range, and high accuracy, significantly boosting India's aerial defence capabilities. However, realizing this potential is proving to be a more arduous task than initially anticipated.

Launched in 2013 with the aim of achieving operational capability within five years, the Astra Mk3 remains firmly in the development phase. The DRDO has categorized it as one of 55 high-priority projects that have missed their deadlines. This delay is primarily attributed to technological hurdles encountered in scaling down air-breathing ramjet technology for use in long-range, high-speed air-to-air missiles.

Despite these challenges, the DRDO has achieved a notable milestone by successfully testing the SFDR booster, a critical component of the missile's propulsion system. This success suggests progress in achieving the desired range and speed for the Astra Mk3. However, officials caution that full development will require considerably more time. Ground trials are ongoing, but the missile still needs to undergo rigorous air-to-air trials from fighter jets before it can be considered ready for mass production.

One of the key challenges lies in the complexity of adapting air-breathing ramjet technology for this specific application. While Russia initially provided consultancy on this technology, the DRDO is now independently pursuing its development. This reflects India's growing emphasis on self-reliance in defence technology, but it also means navigating the complexities of advanced ramjet technology without the same level of external support.

Despite the technological setbacks and delays, DRDO officials remain optimistic about the Astra Mk3 program's future. Once fully developed, the missile is expected to be a game-changer for the Indian Air Force (IAF), providing it with a long-range air-to-air missile capable of engaging enemy aircraft at supersonic speeds and bolstering India's multi-layered air defence capabilities.

The Astra Mk3 is poised to play a crucial role in countering adversaries equipped with advanced missile systems. Officials estimate that, with continued development and successful air-to-air trials, the Astra Mk3 could be ready to enter production within the next 4 to 5 years.
 
Astra MK3 specifications are not clear. Whether it is BVR or just for slow-moving jets like transport, refueling & AWACS, weight & length specifications...? Is it in the same league as the Meteor system? For that, Astra MK3 needs to be under 220 kg weight.
 
DRDO should have continued with Russian consultancy, as development is fully happening in India, it would have been win win situation for these type of highly complex systems.
Its important to complete projects on time. As Russia needs money, it will be easier to get technolgoy out of them if given good price.
By the time it will go into production, China will filed more advance version ,then what is the use of this missile. And ultimately Pakistan will also benefit.
 
I'm certain under the visionary leadership of Dr Kamatji, Astra mk3 will be inducted sooner than later. Astra m2 is also ready to be inducted.
 
We are always weak in engine technology. We are working on Brahmos since 30 years that uses Ramjet engine yet we are not able to develop one so we have to change course and find the reasons behind and then regroup...
 
Better scrap astra mk3 and purchase more number of meteor missiles. Drdo always misses time lines. Sfdr and ramjet technologies require lot of investment in R&D. The current govt does not have any vision of high end technologies and collaboration with foreign countries. They are only concentrating only on TOT and local manufacturing. Even countries like Iran, turkey and South Korea have done very well in drones, cruise missile.we are very much lagging in drones.We have to identify the areas which we are weak and need to collaborate with foreign countries. We have to keep in mind that We are not a big country in defence technolgies.
 
The problem with DRDO is that they have a ego issue where they and only them should design and develop the advanced technology regardless of whether they actually have the correct staff, knowledge and experience in developing such technology. They should partner more with the private sector who have the correct staff, knowledge and experience and make it easier to develop and deliver the SFDR missile.
 
Which private sector has more experience, knowledge and correct staff than that of DRDO?
There’s Brahmos, Tata, Mahindra, Bharat forge, LT, Adani, Paras defence, Astra Microwave.

All can be involved in providing crucial parts, components, knowledge, experience, engineering expertise etc. All should be working together with DRDO. I’m not saying that DRDO are bad at everything but I’m saying that they can be very overconfident and they under deliver the technology or product. The project was started about 10 years ago and they still haven’t delivered on what should have been a 5 year project at most. But instead of delivering on what was promised they have kept on making errors and mistakes.
 
India should invest in Mechanical Engineering and Material Science Engineering departments in Private Engineering colleges. The students of the same departments in IITs go to work for Banks and Software after completing their degrees.

We are very very poor in Material Science and Mechanical Engineering - we have very much less funding.
 
We are always weak in engine technology. We are working on Brahmos since 30 years that uses Ramjet engine yet we are not able to develop one so we have to change course and find the reasons behind and then regroup...
We are actually good now with missiles but yes these are niche technologies we sare still lagging behind in. We already used solid fuel Ramjet in Astra from decades but the challenge seems to be miniaturising it for SFDR so it's lighter to be an A2A missile. Akash is crazy heavy but it's fine for it's class.

As for Brahmos, it is liquid fuel Ramjet which is more complex and yes we haven't firmly gotten our grip on that level tech yet, unfortunately!
 
Each meteor costs 4 million Euros. Astra costs less than 1 million Euros.
We should consider only performance and capabilities. Even Astra mk2 is not ready. Already chinese pl15 and pl21 have more than 250 and 350 km range and have aesa seekers also. And our astra mk2 is only 130 km range. Already in the 2019 balakot fight our missiles in the su30 are not matched aim120. Security of the country is more important not the cost. We can even ask for aim 260 from USA.
 
They should partner more with the private sector who have the correct staff, knowledge and experience and make it easier to develop and deliver the SFDR missile.
Can't we just license copy Russian a2a missile and call it Astra mk3 instead 😹😹😹
 
Can't we just license copy Russian a2a missile and call it Astra mk3 instead 😹😹😹
No because then we don’t gain the educational, scientific, engineering skills and knowledge which leaves us reliant on them like the last 50 years. The government just found it easier to pick up the phone and place an order which would get delivered. This basically hollowed out any private industry research or development. At most you could license produce something but again the critical parts would be supplied by the OEM only and without that crucial part whatever you manufactured indigenously.
 
We need atleast 20 such missiles during start of war to shoot pak air surveillance air crafts. Rest after peak.
 

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