HAL Delivers Light Combat Helicopters to Indian Armed Forces for Evaluation and Potential Production Deal

[RonitBisht]

India's Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) has delivered 15 Limited Series Production (LSP) Light Combat Helicopters (LCH Prachand) to the Indian Air Force (IAF) and Indian Army Aviation (AAC).

The helicopters will be used for evaluation before HAL secures a major production contract. To secure the deal, HAL has integrated Anti-Tank Guided Missiles (ATGMs) and minor modifications to increase firepower.

The IAF's Prachands are stationed near the Indo-Bangladesh border, while the AAC uses them 250 km from the Line of Actual Control (LAC).

HAL is exploring additional capabilities for the LCH Prachand, including tube-launched loitering munitions, 20mm cannon turret, and air-to-air variants of VSHORADS.

 

[charminar_waale_ismail_bhai]

Forces demand more firepower on LCH Prachand.

Kaun hain yeh forces.....
...... Kahaan sei aate hain yeh??

Inhe bas Indian mei Alien technology chahiye?
Russian kei toh 99 khoon bhi maaf ho jaate hain.

 

[Antony Moyalan]

They can add the 30mm Nexter gun, Spike NLOS long range ATGM to truely increase firepower

 

[Mango_Indian]

Where is HELINA - It has cleared all development trials, accepted for production, even order for 500 missiles was approved by Indian Army in Nov 2023. DAC AON received in 2023. Why is it not integrated / in production yet?

Where is SANT - 8 successful tests from 2019 to 2021, but no test after 2021. Why? Are the missile development team in vacation or entered hibernation ?

And why cannot we make 80mm or 100mm rockets and have to import 70mm piddly Belgian rockets? When we are making Pinaka MRBL with 75km range?

Something is seriously wrong with our armed forces and DRDO.

 

[beencensured]

Where is SANT - 8 successful tests from 2019 to 2021, but no test after 2021. Why? Are the missile development team in vacation or entered hibernation ?

Our arm forces is that it is not perfect, not we got a weapon that can be against the enemy. It does not have the fire power of Apache which is much heavier. MOD, and Arm forces brass have no reason to have weapons, but dream of something non-existent.

 

[NSR]

Absolutely right demands to equip them with more varied and better weapons.

IAF and HAL must immediately embark on a twin-engined attack helicopter with sophisticated electronic defensive and offensive system like that of Apache.

 

[Ramsses CDXX]

For A2G roles, put RudraM-III, RudraM-II & Brahmos-1
For A2A roles, put Meteor, MICA & Astra.

HAL says: Jo bologe woh ghhused denge. Dhuddh maangoge to kheer denge, dahi mangoge to paneer denge. Ghee mangoge to cheese denge.

 

[Ashutosh]

Ah - more firepower - yes ,keep waiting for an upgraded Prachand which will able to target F16s then only we will think of placing an order.

Like literally, u don't want to give orders now and wait for eternity for a purely mature platform and only after that, u will think of placing an order .

 

[mangeri laal]

Tank mein rotor blades laga do bhenchod!!!
IAF/IA are such a pain in the @$$, nobody can fulfill their requirements.
God save India.

 

[INDIAN]

When it will fire its first anti tank missile, primary weapon of any attack helicopter.
It just becoming a comedy platform, that after so many years passed LCH Prachand has not fired yet a single anti tank missile.

 

[Mango_Indian]

It does not have the fire power of Apache which is much heavier

Apache is heavy helicopter gunship. Even US Army operates multiple classes of helicopter gunships and not all are Apache class.

HELINA, SANT are developed as per Armed Forces GSQR. Now after 10 year testing saga, we need to productionize our indigenous weapons system and deploy them.

 

[ABHIJIT APSINGIKAR]

It does not have the fire power of Apache

Oh Please stop it, It was supposed to be an attack helicopter, but as of now without an anti tank missile is little more than an armed scout helicopter and fills the role similar to the US Kiowa Warrior or the MD-500.

 

[Akshat]

Ah - more firepower - yes ,keep waiting for an upgraded Prachand which will able to target F16s then only we will think of placing an order.

Like literally, u don't want to give orders now and wait for eternity for a purely mature platform and only after that, u will think of placing an order .

Oh yeah sure. Never question DRDO and HAL who couldn’t integrate an ATGM after working on it for 2-3 decades and in fact even after integrating it with Rudra. Never question them for making a supposed ATGM firing machine which, ironically, can’t fire ATGMs.

Let’s always question the armed forces, who are ready to induct it as soon as they do what is its sole job-fire ATGMs, and even have a LSP order to give them time to integrate the missiles and sort out the production issues.

 

[Dare Devil]

Import Army will never be happy, some dalla General is taking commission from abroad

 

[Akshat]

Tank mein rotor blades laga do bhenchod!!!
IAF/IA are such a pain in the @$$, nobody can fulfill their requirements.
God save India.

Anyone but DRDO can fulfil their requirements. I mean, look at ATAGS. Israel and France have howitzers which can meet their requirements. Within India, 2 companies have products which can, if they perform as advertised, can meet their requirements. But our amazing scientists at DRDO went ahead to throw the PSQRs in the dustbin and make something for the record books instead of doing what they were supposed to do- meet the requirements of the forces.

 

[Ashutosh]

Oh yeah sure. Never question DRDO and HAL who couldn’t integrate an ATGM after working on it for 2-3 decades and in fact even after integrating it with Rudra. Never question them for making a supposed ATGM firing machine which, ironically, can’t fire ATGMs.

Let’s always question the armed forces, who are ready to induct it as soon as they do what is its sole job-fire ATGMs, and even have a LSP order to give them time to integrate the missiles and sort out the production issues.

What shall I question them!?
The question here is - when a platform is available why do armed forces wait for a purely mature platform because this is something which only our forces do.
Around the globe, Forces do a little tests-procure - &upgrade it's shortcomings.
But here our forces , directly want an upgraded platform.

The let Tejas get upgraded to mk1a and then only they placed the orders while PAF was filling up sh*tty JF17 b1s.

 

[abhinav srivastava]

These improvements can be done incrementally as well.

 

[SK]

I hope HAL will consider CCMs on LCH-Prachand's Wing-tips to make it more Apt to handle the upcoming challenges from UAVs.

 

[Akshat]

What shall I question them!?
The question here is - when a platform is available why do armed forces wait for a purely mature platform because this is something which only our forces do.
Around the globe, Forces do a little tests-procure - &upgrade it's shortcomings.
But here our forces , directly want an upgraded platform.

The let Tejas get upgraded to mk1a and then only they placed the orders while PAF was filling up sh*tty JF17 b1s.

Yeah. Our forces had already ordered 2 squadrons of Tejas even when DRDO had given them in writing that the platform is useless. Even till now those planes haven’t been delivered while IAF has already placed fresh orders and is planning to place even more. Don’t know a single Air Force in the world that does that.

But sure. Let’s blame IAF and call others planes sh!tty.

 

[Ashutosh]

But sure. Let’s blame IAF and call others planes sh!tty.

DRDO statement was back in 2011 for its IOC config. - How smart of u to think that Tejas of 2011-12 is equal to Tejas IOC official 2016.

Ofcourse, if IAF hadn't placed orders then who would be blamed if they don't have the numbers.

Okok don't cry, Be happy - JF 17 is a great intergalactic 10th gen futuristic aircraft - I m just asking, "What was IAF doing when PAF was inducting these intergalactic aircraft!?"

U know I can simply give u the basis on which Tejas IOC is superior to JF17s b2:

FBW - quadruplex 3 axis of Tejas
One axis of JF17
MTOW- Tejas with 13.5 tons - superior than 12.7 tons

HP - 9 LCA vs 7 JF17

Aerodynamics - again Tejas

Takeoff distance - again Tejas

Wing loading - again Tejas
Turning radius -,,

Composite material -,,
RCS-,,
Engine -,,
Internal fuel capacity -,,

Combat range -,, ( Higher fuel capacity combined with superior fuel consumption engine unlike rusty Russian engines)

G limits-,,

In almost every d*mn parameter, Tejas on its IOC config. can take on JF17b2, so what was the point of waiting for mk1a?