IAF Eyes Revived Kaveri Engine for Tejas Mk1A to Replace Costly Foreign F404, Seeks Strategic Self-Reliance in Expanding Fighter Fleet

IAF Eyes Revived Kaveri Engine for Tejas Mk1A to Replace Costly Foreign F404, Seeks Strategic Self-Reliance in Expanding Fighter Fleet


India is intensifying its efforts towards achieving self-sufficiency in crucial aerospace technology, particularly jet engines. The Indian Air Force (IAF) is showing renewed support for the indigenous Kaveri engine project, viewing it as a potential future powerplant for its expanding fleet of Tejas Mk1A light combat aircraft.

Overseen by the Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE), this initiative aims to eventually substitute the American-made General Electric (GE) F404 engines that currently power the Tejas jets.

The strategic importance of an indigenous engine is clear, according to senior IAF officials. With commitments for nearly 220 Tejas Mk1A aircraft, expected to serve for approximately 40 years, the fleet will require a substantial number of engines – potentially over 700, assuming replacements roughly every decade.

Developing a domestic engine is thus seen as vital for both operational independence and economic prudence. However, GTRE faces a challenging development path, planning first to demonstrate a derivative engine before progressing to a more powerful version tentatively named Kaveri 2.0. This effort aligns with India's broader goal of significantly expanding its fighter fleet, aiming for around 60 squadrons by 2047.

The Tejas Mk1A represents an upgraded version of India's first domestically developed fighter jet. It currently utilises the GE F404-IN20 engine, which provides 54 kilonewtons (kN) of thrust without afterburner (dry thrust) and 84 kN with afterburner engaged (wet thrust).

The IAF initially ordered 83 Mk1As in 2021 and received approval for an additional 97 in late 2023 or early 2024, solidifying its plan for 220 jets. These aircraft are crucial for maintaining squadron strength as older MiG-21s are retired.

Each jet is expected to need at least three engines during its service life. The reliance on the imported F404 comes at a significant cost; a 2021 deal for 99 engines was valued at $716 million (approx. Rs 5,900 crore), placing the per-engine cost around $7.2 million, contributing to a multi-billion dollar expenditure over the fleet's lifetime, excluding maintenance and the risks associated with dependence on foreign suppliers, highlighted by past sanctions.

Deliveries of these F404 engines reportedly began recently, aiming to equip the first Mk1A squadrons by late 2025.

Development of the Kaveri engine began in 1986 specifically for the Tejas program, but encountered significant hurdles over decades, leading to delays and performance shortfalls. By 2017, the engine achieved 49 kN dry and 73 kN wet thrust – an improvement, but still below the F404's output and lacking the required combat reliability.

Consequently, GTRE set aside the original Kaveri for the Mk1A program in favour of the proven GE engine. Despite this setback, the aspiration for a successful Indian fighter engine persisted, driven by the growing scale of the Tejas Mk1A fleet and the long-term financial implications of importing F404s.

GTRE's current focus is on validating a Kaveri Engine Derivative (KDE) equipped with an afterburner module. The goal for this derivative is a wet thrust of 73-74 kN, comparable to the 75 kN thrust of the French M88-2 engine used in the Rafale fighter.

This KDE leverages design improvements stemming from a consultancy with French engine maker Safran (2014-2018), which addressed earlier issues like compressor problems and afterburner stability. Nine prototypes incorporating these improvements have undergone extensive testing.

A demonstration of the KDE is targeted for late 2025. Recent unrelated progress includes Indian firm Godrej Aerospace delivering initial modules for a different, smaller Kaveri derivative (a 48 kN dry engine likely for unmanned systems) to GTRE, showcasing ongoing industry collaboration in engine development.

However, achieving 73-74 kN thrust with the KDE, while a notable milestone, still falls short of the 84 kN provided by the F404 currently used in the Tejas Mk1A. An IAF official acknowledged this performance gap, indicating the KDE, even if successful, would not be a direct replacement in its current form for the demanding requirements of the Mk1A, which includes carrying a significant combat load. GTRE views the KDE primarily as a crucial step to prove the maturity of the core engine technology and manufacturing processes.

The ultimate objective for GTRE is the development of "Kaveri 2.0," envisioned as a significantly more powerful engine. This proposed engine aims for a wet thrust of around 90 kN, which would surpass the F404 and be closer to the GE F414 engine (98 kN) selected for the forthcoming, more advanced Tejas Mk2 aircraft.

Kaveri 2.0 is expected to incorporate advanced technologies, potentially including improved performance at high temperatures (flat-rated thrust) and advanced blade materials, possibly benefiting from technologies developed for India's fifth-generation Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) engine program and insights from the earlier Safran collaboration.

Intriguingly, the projected timeline for developing Kaveri 2.0 aligns well with the Tejas Mk1A's operational schedule. If the KDE validation is successful, developing and certifying Kaveri 2.0 could take an estimated six to seven years, potentially making it ready around 2031-2032.

With the first Mk1As entering service from 2025, their mid-life engine replacements would likely begin around 2034. This creates a potential "window of opportunity," as noted by the IAF official, to integrate a mature, indigenous Kaveri 2.0 engine into the fleet during scheduled overhauls. Realising this ambitious project would likely require significant investment, estimated at around Rs 10,000 crore (approximately $1.2 billion).

Significant challenges remain. The KDE demonstration in 2025 must convincingly prove its reliability, overcoming issues like afterburner stability that affected earlier prototypes. Scaling the design up to the 90 kN thrust target for Kaveri 2.0 without substantially increasing the engine's weight (the Kaveri prototype was already heavier than the F404) is a major engineering hurdle.

Securing consistent and adequate funding, which historically has been limited for the Kaveri project, will be critical. Furthermore, integrating a new engine type will require coordination with Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), which is already managing multiple aircraft production and upgrade programs.
 
That engines are not made for hot and humid climate because USA don't have such kind of vast kind of terrain..
But india have hot dessert, long range of high mountain, large boundry of sea...
Take an example of apache they are good on dessert and plains but fails to achieve its 100% performance when it is used in Himalayas but our LCH don't have any issues there...
Har desh technology apne desh ki climate ke hisaab se develop karta hai isliye kaveri ka thrust girta ni h at Indian climate because ye design ke time se hi DRDO jaanti hai apne desh ka climate....
Jaise jarsi cow india ki garmi me haanfne lagti but desi cow ko kuch ni hota h and wo 45°c Temp bhi jhel jaati h aaram se...
 
This should have been thought about eight or nine years before. At this stage, it will be a foolish decision. IAF and GTRE should concentrate on developing engines for AMCA. Since AMCA will take another six or seven years to enter production, developing engines for AMCA makes sense. Now, as per the life cycle for MK1A, we will need another 550 engines. Every year we can give an order of 100 engines to GE.
 
Let's be honest we are too close to let the Kaveri Engine program stop.

I think even Brits & French also use the F404 to power their earlier models of Typhoon & Rafale jets before transition to their Indigenous Engines.

In our case Kaveri-2 or MK1A could be the engine for Tejas-Mk1A after the service life of GE F404 is over.

Future versions of Kaveri should be able to work on Tejas-Mk2, TEDBF, ORCA & AMCA.

Our goal is to move towards a single engine design with variants to insure long term logistical synergy & Economy of Scales.
 
But the entire old leadership and management team should be fired and forced to resign. No point whipping a dead horse. We need new blood, new vision and new management ethos to overcome what we have been unable to do so since last 30+ years. Else, it's all going to be pointless and endless promises.
 
News is floating that during Russian testing, the Kaveri engine has given 94-98 kN wet thrust. If the news is correct, with reduced weight and the use of lighter alloys, the engine now is perfect and cleared for Mk-1 and Mk-2 aircraft.
 
Make about 20 engines with what we have already. Fit them to Tejas and start flying it. Collect the test data and put the improvements in the next version. The complaints have always been about the KNs. So what if it is a few KNs low? Fly with a lesser payload. It's a shame that we have had this program for 4 decades now and it didn't participate in the most important Balakot strike. Rather have something functional which you can iteratively improve, than something perfect which takes decades to deliver.
 
Why not target for approximately 98 kN thrust Kaveri 2.0, same as GE414 engine? If achieved, it can be a milestone, as it will be suitable to re-engine both Mk1 and Mk2.
 
With GE delivering progressively, KAVERI with present outputs should also be inducted. Then, any or as many identified issues are to be sorted progressively and steadily, making KAVERI a reliable path to self-reliance.

With engines home-grown and developed, the push for KAVERI at this point will be a well-controlled supply chain scenario, making a difference for the country.
 
Some interesting observations between the Kaveri and the much sought after GE F404 and the GE F414 engines by India: Kaveri engine length is given as 390 cm while both GE engines are 391 cm. Both GE engines have 7 high-pressure compressor stages, and the Kaveri has 6. This shows that GE have packed in an extra high-pressure stage practically within the same length of the engine.

The Kaveri engine inlet diameter is given at 74.9 cm, GE404 (70.9 cm) and GE414 (79 cm). Kaveri fan diameter is 90.9 cm while both GE engines are 89 cm. With the G414, all that GE did was to take the F404 and increase the engine airflow by 16%. The fan is 13 cm longer, and increased in diameter from 71 cm to 79 cm. To keep the F414 in the same space occupied in the airframe as the F404, the afterburner section was shortened by 10 cm and the combustor shortened by 2.5 cm.

For the F414, the turbine inlet temperature was raised to 1,527 °C. Also changed from the F404 is the construction of the first 3 stages of the high-pressure compressor which are blisks rather than separate discs and dovetailed blades, saving 23 kg in weight. Cannot see how and why the GTRE/DRDO etc cannot learn something from this. Even if the extra high-pressure (7th) compressor stage is not added to the Kaveri, the rest of the suggestion shows the dry thrust would increase to 66 kN while the maximum thrust would hit 103 kN.

The USA proposal to India is that they can develop the F414 to 117 kN, but there is no telling how long that will take. Apart from that they will never give India 100% transfer of technology.
 
Great to hear that. But IAF should not lose the momentum. Because those who will lose because of this India's indigenous efforts will try to stop that at any cost. Also, we know what the GTRE will do in response.

So, just like it did to HAL, IAF should constantly up its ante against GTRE as well, pushing for KAVERI.
 
Kaveri with afterburner that can generate 50 plus kN thrust in dry mode and 80plus kN in Afterburner mode is just sufficient for LCA Tejas Mk1A.
 

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