IAF's Rafale May Repeat the Limited Procurement History of Mirage-2000, as India Considering Less-Costly F-35 Stealth Fighter Jet

IAF's Rafale May Repeat the Limited Procurement History of Mirage-2000, as India Considering Less-Costly F-35 Stealth Fighter Jet


The Indian Air Force (IAF), which operates a combination of aircraft from Western and Russian origins, is at a critical juncture in its modernization efforts. There are growing speculation that the French-made Rafale, a highly advanced 4.5-generation fighter, could follow a similar procurement path as the Mirage-2000 – becoming a powerful but numerically limited asset within the IAF's fleet.

In the 1980s, India purchased the Mirage-2000 after a thorough evaluation of several Western and Soviet fighter aircraft. The initial acquisition of 40 Mirage-2000s significantly boosted the IAF's capabilities, providing superior performance in both air-to-air and air-to-ground combat roles.

While initial plans included acquiring additional units and even domestic production, the Indian government ultimately chose the more affordable MiG-29A from the Soviet Union.

This decision limited the Mirage-2000's role to a specialized one within the IAF, and the small fleet size presented challenges for maintenance and upgrades over time.

Mirage 2000 played a crucial role during the Kargil War, highlighting its operational value despite its limited numbers.

Similarly, the Rafale entered IAF service with considerable expectations. In 2016, India contracted for 36 Rafale jets from Dassault Aviation in a deal worth approximately $8.7 billion. The aircraft has demonstrably enhanced India's air combat power, particularly during periods of heightened border tensions.

India's original intentions, through initiatives like the MRCA and later the MRFA programs, included acquiring a larger number of Rafales and establishing local manufacturing under the "Make in India" initiative. However, no further orders have been placed to date, fueling speculation that the Rafale may face the same limited procurement fate as the Mirage-2000.

Reports indicate that the United States has signaled its willingness to offer India the F-35A Lightning II, a fifth-generation stealth fighter, potentially at a more competitive price than the Rafale.

The F-35 offers cutting-edge capabilities, such as advanced stealth technology, integrated network-centric warfare systems, and improved situational awareness.

Should this deal proceed, it could diminish the likelihood of additional Rafale orders, echoing the way the MiG-29A impacted further Mirage-2000 acquisitions.

Several key considerations are likely to shape India's ultimate decision:
  • Cost: The Rafale is a high-cost platform. India may be reluctant to commit to further purchases if a fifth-generation aircraft like the F-35 is offered at a similar or lower price.
  • Technological Advancement: The F-35's stealth capabilities and advanced sensor integration represent a significant advancement in air combat technology, potentially aligning better with India's long-term air power goals.
  • Strategic Partnerships: While France has consistently been a dependable defence supplier, strengthening ties with the United States could lead to increased defence cooperation, including technology transfer agreements and broader strategic alliances.
  • Domestic Development: India is concurrently developing its own fifth-generation fighter, the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA). Significant investment in the AMCA program might lead to a reduced priority for additional Rafale acquisitions, favoring a more advanced, domestically produced solution. The AMCA program, overseen by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), is currently in the design phase, with the first flight expected later this decade.
Ultimately, India's decision will balance immediate operational needs with long-term strategic goals, budgetary constraints, and the desire for technological self-reliance.
 
India should have gone for extra 36 Rafael after 2016 Rafael deal and till now India got all its Rafael...It was a blunder...I have never seen a country doing blunders for its national security...India is a unique country...Now India is again doing the same mistake for F35...If India needs F35 then for god sake talk with US with urgent requirement and sign the deal because F35 has huge order book..if India signs the deal today 1st aircraft may come around 2028-29......PK is getting 5th gen jet around 2027....
 
Yes we should buy 44+ Rafale F-5 with MUMT when ready ! That it and better make ORCA !
 
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Still believe IAF must have 100+ Rafales with a local manufacturing ecosystem, as buying F-35s is an American trap and integrating them with our systems will be a serious headache. Also, Rafales carry a lot more weapons than F-35s, and too much hype is made about the survivability of F-35s in contested airspace.
 
Rafael is junk compared to the F35. In technology terms, it's unbeatable. But we must focus on drone, autonomous, and AI development, and long-range, diverse technology development.
  1. Let's say if you want to kill a radar by drone, it will be way cheaper than sending fighters, as they are mobile and switch on and off easily to hide, saving cost and human risk.
  2. Also, for ground support, drones are now leaders.
  3. Fighters are no use for small operations.
  4. Also, attack and run is more suitable for drones.
  5. Kamikaze—only drones are suitable.
  6. Surveillance—only drones have the upper hand.
  7. Finally, hovering inside enemy territory for a long time—drones are masters.
  8. Submersible drones can wipe out the entire navy of enemies; Ukraine has proven it.
 
Rafale F3 is junk compared to the F-35, Su-57, and J-20.

After a few years, the Rafales will need upgrades. Then France will again charge huge sums for the upgrades.
 
What an ignorant writer, he's not even mentioning the Rafales being bought by the Indian navy.
 
Indian government will have to see the potential threat and which fighter will.have upper edge. One more factor may effect the procurement that is long term support for maintenance and upgrades. USA companies are not reliable which is event from delay in supply of engines for LCA by GE. Delay in supply by GE indicates a undue pressure ftom USA to force India to purchase F-35. In my opinion, India should purchase lates fighters ftom the company who will provide Technology transfer .
 
Those who are giving opinions here I doubt if all are experts. Since China has developed 6 Gen fighter air craft and shown mockup of it ,our country should go for at least F-35 version from the US. But there are doubt on its supply. It won't be cheap. Modern day warfare air craft uses are less. The Drones are taking its place. It is rather cheap ,reliable and the Ukrain Russia proves that.
 
India should have gone for extra 36 Rafael after 2016 Rafael deal and till now India got all its Rafael...It was a blunder...I have never seen a country doing blunders for its national security...India is a unique country...Now India is again doing the same mistake for F35...If India needs F35 then for god sake talk with US with urgent requirement and sign the deal because F35 has huge order book..if India signs the deal today 1st aircraft may come around 2028-29......PK is getting 5th gen jet around 2027....
They can dream of getting it but nobody will sell them their 5th generation stealth jets. They would just let China or the USA to carry out a detailed inspection about the technology and capabilities for a price. Either USA will pay or China will pay if they bought whichever jet.
 
India would have made a deal if France would have provided the high amount of the critical technology that we wanted and the high amount we could manufacture indigenously. Also they wouldn’t provide any warranty for anything made in India and they believed that HAL was unable to manufacture the jets properly because they lacked the modern facilities, trained manpower, skilled workers and equipment. Also the price was still going to be very expensive and now there’s a backlog for around 4-5 years before we would have even started to receive it.

Our main focus should be on developing and manufacturing our own indigenous jet from Tejas MK1A and MK2, TEDBF and AMCA. We need to develop an indigenous ecosystem for our indigenous jets and not make any foreign expensive imports.
 
India would have made a deal if France would have provided the high amount of the critical technology that we wanted and the high amount we could manufacture indigenously. Also they wouldn’t provide any warranty for anything made in India and they believed that HAL was unable to manufacture the jets properly because they lacked the modern facilities, trained manpower, skilled workers and equipment. Also the price was still going to be very expensive and now there’s a backlog for around 4-5 years before we would have even started to receive it.

Our main focus should be on developing and manufacturing our own indigenous jet from Tejas MK1A and MK2, TEDBF and AMCA. We need to develop an indigenous ecosystem for our indigenous jets and not make any foreign expensive imports.
Mindset change is required. World has changed. Costs need to be reduced. India needs to be pro active in going out there and grabbing work for its people. Instead of wringing hands and sitting on your butts go out of the comfort zone and provide cheaper alternatives to struggling advanced countries. Mera juta hai japani Japan did it. China did it. But closed India didn't. Yes it made Indian products of better quality not being suckered by big companies into low prices for high volumes like China. Now become a power house repairing servicing F35s the largest fleets of planes for many more decades to come and the world will come to set up facilities for making quality spare parts in India. Once a deal for F35 is signed Raise money from the poor and invest into businesses supporting the Largest expansion of defence equipment in the world. Russia has exhausted itself.
 
India will never buy a US fighter jet because of lack of free usage of jets. Media can give n number of statements but IAF knows it. Imagine there is full fleged war, USA can deny spare parts or maintenance of fighters. USA is master of all of these tactics. So it will be another showpiece for India.

Fighter like rafeal, maybe India will be able to design indegeneously in next 10 years. But 5th gen fighter is not a cup of tea for HAL. For 5th gen fighter, There is only 1 option which is SU57. Once russia-ukraine war will be over in next couple of months there can be progress on that. Russia is desperate to finish the war but can't do it otherwise Putin will be a joke.
 
What an ignorant writer, he's not even mentioning the Rafales being bought by the Indian navy.
Indian Navy never bought Rafale-M, they were negotiating for a lower price and it stops there, now they wanted a 5th gen aircraft.
 
In today's air superiority game india cannot just do air dominance with 4++ aircraft anymore. We must have sleath technology based 5 generation aircraft atleast 48 nos and rest wait for 2030 onwards for our own AMCA supposed to be 5 generate to fill up our inventories. Also we need new hypercruise missile system for both air and land based. We also need our own strategy to counter and neutralize if any hypercruise missile is launched on us. With power full detection and destruction system specifically coming from the other side of Himalayas. Same for our navy. China is building one if the most powerful all weather Navy after USA. We can't compete with them in size and numbers but we should have the minimum defense platforms to hold on for atleast 10 days. Our strategies should take these into consideration . Jai Hind
 

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