India's MRFA Tender May Expand to Include 5th-Gen Fighter Jets, Opening Prospect for 'Made in India' Su-57 or F-35 for IAF

India's MRFA Tender May Expand to Include 5th-Gen Fighter Jets, Opening Prospect for 'Made in India' Su-57 or F-35 for IAF


Reportedly, a high-level committee within India's Ministry of Defence has approved a recommendation from the Indian Air Force (IAF) to potentially broaden the scope of the Multi-Role Fighter Aircraft (MRFA) tender to include 5th-generation fighter jets.

This significant development, confirmed by sources, opens the door for the first time to potential offers of 5th-generation platforms within the MRFA framework, which calls for 110 aircraft with provisions for technology transfer (ToT) and domestic manufacturing.

The key uncertainty remains which 5th gen fighter will agree on ToT, and a Final Assembly Line (FAL) in the Country.

The MRFA tender, estimated to be worth over US$20 billion, is intended to address the IAF's declining number of operational squadrons. The IAF currently operates 31 squadrons, significantly below its sanctioned strength of 42. The new aircraft are meant to replace aging fleets of MiG-21s, Jaguars, and Mirage 2000s.

While the tender initially focused on 4.5-generation fighters, such as the Dassault Rafale, Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornet, and Eurofighter Typhoon, the expansion to include 5th-generation options is a response to evolving regional security challenges, particularly the growing presence of China's J-20 stealth fighter and the development of 6th-generation prototypes.

Currently, Russia appears to be the only nation explicitly offering a 5th-generation aircraft with a ToT component. The Sukhoi Su-57E, an export version of Russia's stealth fighter, has been proposed with the possibility of local production at Hindustan Aeronautics Limited's (HAL) facility in Nashik.

The Su-57, which entered service with the Russian Aerospace Forces in 2020, features advanced avionics, the ability to cruise at supersonic speeds (supercruise), and features designed to reduce its radar signature.

Russia has ordered 76 Su-57s for its own forces, with deliveries expected by 2028. The proposal for the Su-57E leverages India's existing infrastructure for the Su-30 MKI, potentially streamlining logistics and maintenance.

The Russian offer, expected to be structured as a government-to-government (G2G) agreement, could see the Nashik facility, already a center for MiG and Su-30 maintenance, become a production hub. This aligns with India's long-standing defense relationship with Russia.

However, past issues with spare parts delays and the impact of sanctions following the conflict in Ukraine raise potential concerns.

A ToT agreement for the Su-57E could also potentially benefit India's own Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) program, which is projected to be ready by 2035, by providing valuable knowledge in areas like stealth technology and sensor fusion. However the amount of sharing of proprietary technology by Russia remains uncertain.

In contrast, Lockheed Martin has expressed strong interest in offering its F-35A Lightning II, the most widely deployed 5th-generation fighter globally. However, sources indicate that the U.S. proposal is for a direct, off-the-shelf purchase through a G2G agreement, circumventing the local assembly requirement of the MRFA.

The F-35A, showcased at Aero India 2023, boasts unparalleled stealth capabilities, advanced sensor fusion, and network-centric warfare capabilities. With over 1,100 units delivered worldwide, the F-35's conventional takeoff and landing (CTOL) variant is well-suited for IAF bases. The F-35C, a carrier-capable variant, might also be of interest to the Indian Navy.

The United States' strict policies on technology sharing present a significant obstacle. Unlike Lockheed Martin's previous offer of the F-21 (an upgraded F-16 variant) with full production in India through a partnership with Tata, the F-35A's most sensitive technologies, such as its AN/APG-81 AESA radar and stealth coatings, are highly unlikely to be included in any ToT agreement or local assembly line.

Regarding South Korea's KF-21 Boramae, sources have clarified that the current production model is a 4.5-generation fighter. A 5th-generation variant is not anticipated before 2030. The KF-21, which first flew in 2022 and is scheduled for induction in 2026, incorporates advanced avionics.

An insider indicated that it is up to the vendors to decide whether to respond to the tender, suggesting that Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) could potentially propose a future 5th-generation KF-21EX with ToT. But it's development timeline, and dependence on U.S supplied components make it improbable for the current needs of MRFA.

The decision to consider 5th-generation jets in the MRFA tender, approved by a Defence Ministry committee, signifies a two-pronged approach: to meet the IAF's urgent requirement for approximately 450 aircraft by 2040 and to acquire cutting-edge technology.

Given the delays in the Tejas Mk1A program and the long-term development timeline of the AMCA, the addition of a 5th-generation fighter could serve as a deterrent to China's People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) and Pakistan's potential acquisition of J-35 fighters.

Local manufacturing, through a potential agreement for the Su-57E or another contender, holds the promise of boosting India's domestic defense industry.
 
Russia has refused any significant ToT or Make in India. And India, specifically, IAF, has categorically stated they will rather buy Mig 35 but not Su57. Not under any circumstances. This is the explicit statement from GoI.
That was a long time ago when India and Russia jointly invested in the Su-57 program. That's where Russia refused to do so. Now, circumstances have changed a lot. Due to Ukraine conflict-related sanctions, Russia may be willing to make a ToT. However, it is premature to make a conclusion as of now. Only when talks have begun can we know the conditions & outcomes. Again, it is also an oversimplification if we dismiss that the IAF will never buy the Su-57, as India doesn't have many options regarding 5th-gen jets.
 
Lease two to three squadrons of F-35s from the USA as a stopgap arrangement until the AMCA is delivered. This is a much better option than going in for the MRFA tender process. We can sweeten the deal by offering a base in the Andamans to the USA for, say, 21 years and have the lease free of cost.
 
That was a long time ago when India and Russia jointly invested in the Su-57 program. That's where Russia refused to do so. Now, circumstances have changed a lot. Due to Ukraine conflict-related sanctions, Russia may be willing to make a ToT. However, it is premature to make a conclusion as of now. Only when talks have begun can we know the conditions & outcomes. Again, it is also an oversimplification if we dismiss that the IAF will never buy the Su-57, as India doesn't have many options regarding 5th-gen jets.
Well you can look at recent events as well. Even till now Russia has refused to give even 35% of ToT for Ka226T, remember? So nothing, absolutely nothing, has changed on that front.

And it won't be oversimplification bro. IAF is on record as recent as last year (or maybe it was late 2023) that they won't be procuring Su57 or Su 75. You can search for it. IAF chief is on record saying that.
 
Lease two to three squadrons of F-35s from the USA as a stopgap arrangement until the AMCA is delivered. This is a much better option than going in for the MRFA tender process. We can sweeten the deal by offering a base in the Andamans to the USA for, say, 21 years and have the lease free of cost.
Never ever give your land to the US or any country. Once they get there, it will be almost impossible to get them out. Ask Japan, Europe.
 
Buy some 40 used Rafales and make a 100% effort to make Tejas/AMCA a great success. Because once you can make one plane completely on your own, you can make many more all by yourself.

Turkey and South Korea have chosen this path. I do not understand why India wavers from this path, because there is no other path if you want to become independent in this matter.
 
IAF and GoI have both categorically stated that they won't buy that junk, no matter what.
Junk? Rafale is 4th gen. Could you suggest what other 5th gen jet will be offered to us as part of MRFA? Chinese will never offer their J20. No other country in the world has a 5th gen jet.
 
Junk? Rafale is 4th gen. Could you suggest what other 5th gen jet will be offered to us as part of MRFA? Chinese will never offer their J20. No other country in the world has a 5th gen jet.
Bro, IAF has said they don't want Su57 and Su 75 even if they have to live without fifth gen planes. That's the level of junk it is. Even Russia has cancelled it's 70% orders for Su57 and ordered more Su 35 instead. That's the level of junk it is. And as for Su 75...well it is not even gonna fly so why even talk about it. Russia itself isn't inducting it.

As for Rafale, it is one of the best selling planes in the world and has always cleared the trials conducted by any arm of Indian military. So clearly, unlike you, Indian military thinks its a great jet and not a junk.
 
Select anyone but don't involve HAL in any way. This should be an opportunity to build up private competitor to HAL.
If it is US jet then Tata, if Russian then most probably HAL, they could add a private player like TVS or Hero group who haven't done much for defense, other private companies are busy with some defense projects already, i would suggest we could follow Turkey route on making AMCA, UK’s BAE System helps with KAAN, RR will provide engine for them, we can get 36-52 of some 5th gen jet off the shelf until AMCA becomes available.
 
Bro, IAF has said they don't want Su57 and Su 75 even if they have to live without fifth gen planes. That's the level of junk it is. Even Russia has cancelled it's 70% orders for Su57 and ordered more Su 35 instead. That's the level of junk it is. And as for Su 75...well it is not even gonna fly so why even talk about it. Russia itself isn't inducting it.

As for Rafale, it is one of the best selling planes in the world and has always cleared the trials conducted by any arm of Indian military. So clearly, unlike you, Indian military thinks its a great jet and not a junk.
We are talking about 5th gen jets for MRFA in this article, not about the 4th gen Rafale. At least the EF Typhoon Tranche 5 LTE is closer to a 5th gen. The Rafale is strictly 4th gen, so we are not interested in 4th gen jets anymore. The only 5th gen jet available and offered to us is the SU-57. The F-35 has not been offered to us.
 
If it is US jet then Tata, if Russian then most probably HAL, they could add a private player like TVS or Hero group who haven't done much for defense, other private companies are busy with some defense projects already, i would suggest we could follow Turkey route on making AMCA, UK’s BAE System helps with KAAN, RR will provide engine for them, we can get 36-52 of some 5th gen jet off the shelf until AMCA becomes available.
MRFA is extremely important, not just for numbers, but for establishing a private aerospace competitor to HAL in the country. If not MRFA, then we would never be able to create a company that can develop and assemble fighter jets. I would go for any jet which fits in my budget and will be Made in India with the desired ToT. The MoD should stick to the budget strictly, like Malaysia did with its procurement of LIFT. I would say get a company that can do Make in India with some ToT within $15 billion for 110 jets, be it Gripen, F-21, or F-18.
 
We are talking about 5th gen jets for MRFA in this article, not about the 4th gen Rafale. At least the EF Typhoon Tranche 5 LTE is closer to a 5th gen. The Rafale is strictly 4th gen, so we are not interested in 4th gen jets anymore. The only 5th gen jet available and offered to us is the SU-57. The F-35 has not been offered to us.
We are talking about what India wants to buy. And IAF is very very clear that it doesn't wanna buy Su 57, come he|| or high water. They literally ran from it as if it's a dead zombie.

As for Rafale, generation is secondary. What matters is that IAF and IN wants more and more and more of those. And we are very much interested in them and not at all in those junk Su57 which even Russia is cancelling like a gangrene hand.
 

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