Navy Submitted Formal Proposal to Govt for the Construction of 2nd Indigenous Aircraft Carrier

The Indian Navy has taken a significant step towards expanding its fleet, submitting a formal proposal to the government for the construction of a second domestically built aircraft carrier.

This bold move underscores India's determination to boost its defense manufacturing capabilities and its commitment to establishing naval dominance within the Indian Ocean Region (IOR).

Defence analysts view the addition of another aircraft carrier as pivotal in India's path toward achieving its regional ambitions. A strong naval force, with multiple carrier battle groups, is considered essential for projecting power and safeguarding maritime interests.

The proposal for a third carrier follows the landmark success of India's first indigenous carrier, INS Vikrant. Commissioned in 2022, the INS Vikrant represented a crucial turning point for India's defense industry.

The proposed carrier is anticipated to share design similarities with the INS Vikrant. However, modifications are likely to be made, including larger aircraft lifts to handle a broader range of planes.

Additionally, the design might be tailored to support operations of advanced High-Altitude, Long-Endurance (HALE) Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) in the future.

Currently, the government's decision on the proposal is pending. If greenlit, this project signifies a major investment in India's naval prowess, ultimately safeguarding its strategic position within the IOR.

 

[Tanishq Bafila]

If we dont trust HAL, who do we trust. HAL has improved in recent years. It did deliver prachand helicopter, ALH, LUH. It has started delivery of tejas mk1a.

Well Atmanirbhar Bharat is the only way forward but we can't neglect the fact that AMCA will go into production by 2034...

Tejas Mk-2 will go into production by 2030 earliest and Mk-2 can't meet the requirements of a medium category fighter , not only this by 2030 Pakistan will start getting Chinese 5th generation jets , even if the J-20 isn't a capable 5th generation jet but it's ahead of su-30mki , We need Rafales to counter J20 and F-31

A new production/ assembly line will not only meet our requirements but also serve as a centre to make spares & new systems for Middle East countries operating 100's of Rafales in future

 

[Kiran Kumar]

We need larger displacement not 45t displacement again and possibly with hybrid electric propulsion this time around, so that we can carry more jets, helicopters and personal, with these 3 Aircraft carriers and 4 Mistral amphibious assault ships we will be having 7 aircraft carriers in total, that is formidable, now we need to form carrier strike group for each carrier.

Bro, we are here not to show the strength to others or not to bullying others. Though we are capable but, maintaining such a huge carriers is a burden to the Government and our ports are not large enough to accommodate such a super carriers. To counter China, we need 5-6 45Kt displacement carriers

 

[Straight]

Welcome move and no harm in staying at similar displacement as ins vikrant. We should shun bigger the better philosophy and go for lean and mean meachines. Even Japan is not progressing beyond 20k displacement ships.

 

[NSR]

Navy Going very well , What about Air Force not even AoN issued for MRFA. Just Fast Track or Buy 114+26(Marine Rafale ) Under Make in India .After Induction of INS Vikrant & 26 Rafale Marine they want Another Aircraft carrier.

114+26 = 140 Rafales total.

Now at last prices of $245 millions * 140 = $34.3 billions for a 4+ generation fighter.

New price after a decade of inflation is $300 million per fighter.
And it amounts to $42 billions for 140 Rafales and that is for a 4+ Generation fighter.

Come on man walk on real earth and do some real calculations about what India can accomplish with that money.

Better join 6th generation fighter consortium lead by UK, Italy and Japan and get a 6th generation fighter by 2035, and then use rest of money to accelerate Indian programs Tejas Mk2, TEDBF and AMCA.

 

[Pink Panther]

Bro, we are here not to show the strength to others or not to bullying others. Though we are capable but, maintaining such a huge carriers is a burden to the Government and our ports are not large enough to accommodate such a super carriers. To counter China, we need 5-6 45Kt displacement carriers

It is not show of strength or Bulliying, it is cost savings and logistics.

 

[Rational Guy]

Hope it doesn't take 25 years to see it in the water...

IAC 1 itself took 13 years why would it's copy IAC 2 take 25 years (twice as long)? Use your brain before talking.

 

[Apocalypse gupta]

Well Atmanirbhar Bharat is the only way forward but we can't neglect the fact that AMCA will go into production by 2034...

Tejas Mk-2 will go into production by 2030 earliest and Mk-2 can't meet the requirements of a medium category fighter , not only this by 2030 Pakistan will start getting Chinese 5th generation jets , even if the J-20 isn't a capable 5th generation jet but it's ahead of su-30mki , We need Rafales to counter J20 and F-31

A new production/ assembly line will not only meet our requirements but also serve as a centre to make spares & new systems for Middle East countries operating 100's of Rafales in future

India will already have 36+26 rafales. That is more than enough to counter pakistan's maybe 10-12 FC-31. I believe that rafales are too expensive, and french are very inflexible in terms of what systems can India Indigenise and using Indian weapons.
Tejas mk2 is in the category of F16, so it is more than enough to meet reuirments of multi role fighter. As for a heavier air supremacy fighter, India has the sukhois, many of which would be upgraded by 2030.

 

[Sandeep]

Waste of public funds as a non nuclear propulsion will not allow the AC to go beyond a few thousand miles. Forget about sailing to South China Sea and blocking Chinese ports in case of a war with China. If at all India has to build it has to build a large aircraft carrier with nuclear propulsion and capability to launch netra awacs type of aircraft far away from Indian shores.

In peace time and anti piracy ops friendly nations like singapore and Philippines may offer their ports for refueling and replishenment, in war time they may refuse. So an aircraft carrier that is limited in power is uselss for power projections.

We can block China trading ships at the malacca strait without having to venture close to the South China Sea. We can block it successfully because our Andaman military base is very close to it and with long range missiles we can cut the line very quickly if we have to.

 

[bonito]

114+26 = 140 Rafales total.

Now at last prices of $245 millions * 140 = $34.3 billions for a 4+ generation fighter.

New price after a decade of inflation is $300 million per fighter.
And it amounts to $42 billions for 140 Rafales and that is for a 4+ Generation fighter.

Come on man walk on real earth and do some real calculations about what India can accomplish with that money.

Better join 6th generation fighter consortium lead by UK, Italy and Japan and get a 6th generation fighter by 2035, and then use rest of money to accelerate Indian programs Tejas Mk2, TEDBF and AMCA.

There is term called as "opportunity cost". When someone has missed utilize an opportunity and resorts to sour grapes story it is called opportunity cost. When we had all the time to revive Tejas program and all the time to order MRFA in 2004 we missed all the opportunity . The cost is what you have put in numbers. $42 billion

 

[Rick Golder]

Waste of public funds as a non nuclear propulsion will not allow the AC to go beyond a few thousand miles. Forget about sailing to South China Sea and blocking Chinese ports in case of a war with China. If at all India has to build it has to build a large aircraft carrier with nuclear propulsion and capability to launch netra awacs type of aircraft far away from Indian shores.

In peace time and anti piracy ops friendly nations like singapore and Philippines may offer their ports for refueling and replishenment, in war time they may refuse. So an aircraft carrier that is limited in power is uselss for power projections.

These two paragraphs are enough for any person who knows how a naval forces work, to know your knowledge limitations. I am not even going to explain why, it's a waste of time.

Just so you know, given how big IOR and Arabian sea is, we will not need 2, but 4 aircraft carriers. And if we plan to power project outside, then we will be need atleast 5-6+, and atleast 2-3 of them should be nuclear powered. And it's good that navy actually plans that much.

 

[Anant]

Welcome move and no harm in staying at similar displacement as ins vikrant. We should shun bigger the better philosophy and go for lean and mean meachines. Even Japan is not progressing beyond 20k displacement ships.

They probably will, with their next carriers. It's not a case of Japan not moving past 20,000 tons. The fact is they haven't reached that point yet.

Analysts have postulated that the Hyūga-class may be replaced in the late 2030s by a pair of 40,000-45,000 ton carriers, with the Izumo-class following a decade later, being replaced with either two similar-sized carriers, or one larger 60,000-ish ton carrier.

 

[ASHOK CARROL]

from 1 carrier navy with a GDP of 2 trillion to a 2 carrier navy with 3.5trillion GDP for Arabian sea , Bay of Bengal and exports of over 600 billion the navy has now to plan for global reach and protecting sea lines of communictions for a rising India and its trade of over 3to 4 trillion $ by 2035 Protecting Indian interests in all five oceans and continents the Navy will need 6 carriers by 2040 and 10 by 2050 . Two Shipyards must be continously busy in construction of carriers starting from 65000 tons and finally supercarriers of over 100000 tons . . Continuous funding for carriers and subs must be planned , allocated and delegated to professionals for results .Sea power with carriers and LPD/LPH carrying marines and Sea control with SSKS , /SSNS /SSGNS has to be done on a 30 to 40 years plan framed , approved and put into motion by 2025.

 

[amerjit johal]

Waste of public funds as a non nuclear propulsion will not allow the AC to go beyond a few thousand miles. Forget about sailing to South China Sea and blocking Chinese ports in case of a war with China. If at all India has to build it has to build a large aircraft carrier with nuclear propulsion and capability to launch netra awacs type of aircraft far away from Indian shores.

In peace time and anti piracy ops friendly nations like singapore and Philippines may offer their ports for refueling and replishenment, in war time they may refuse. So an aircraft carrier that is limited in power is uselss for power projections.

"Sailing to the South China Sea and blocking Chinese ports"

A little bit early in the day to be smoking some strong stuff.