Why a Russian Su-57 Shot Down Its Own S-70 Okhotnik Stealth Wingman Drone: Friendly Fire Accident or Loss of Control?

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In a potentially embarrassing incident for the Russian military, reports have emerged that a cutting-edge Russian S-70 Okhotnik (Hunter) stealth drone was downed on October 5, 2024, over the Ukrainian city of Kostiantynivka in the Donetsk region.

While initial reports misidentified the aircraft as a Su-25 jet, analysis of the wreckage confirmed it to be the advanced unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV).

The incident, first reported on Telegram channels, has sparked speculation about the cause, with a source within Ukraine’s Defense Forces claiming "friendly fire" from Russian forces. This claim is supported by several Russian military bloggers who identified the wreckage as belonging to the S-70 Okhotnik.

The S-70, designed to operate as a "wingman" drone alongside the Su-57 fighter jet, represents a significant advancement in Russia's drone warfare capabilities. Its loss is a considerable setback for the Russian military, especially given its advanced sensors and combat capabilities.

On the other hand some unconfirmed reports circulating on Russian Telegram channels, the incident occurred during a test flight near the frontline. It is suggested that the drone's operator lost control, leading Russian commanders to order its destruction to prevent capture by Ukrainian forces. Some accounts claim a Su-57 fighter jet was used to carry out the order.

Justin Bronk, Senior Research Fellow for Airpower and Military Technology at the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI), called the incident an "embarrassing failure" for the Russian Aerospace Forces (VKS). He suggests the drone may have been undergoing tests of its sensors or command-and-control systems (C2) near the front lines.

This incident highlights the ongoing challenges with coordination and communication within Russian forces, issues that have plagued their operations in Ukraine since the conflict's beginning.

The destroyed drone is believed to be an earlier demonstrator model, potentially lacking the advanced stealth features of more recent variants. This raises questions about why it was operating in a heavily defended area with robust air defense systems.

The wreckage of the S-70 presents a valuable opportunity for Ukrainian forces to analyze the technology. Experts believe they will attempt to recover as much of the drone as possible for foreign material exploitation (FME) before Russian forces can destroy it.

Despite the widespread reports and speculation, the Russian military has yet to issue an official statement explaining the circumstances surrounding the loss of this critical asset.

The S-70 Okhotnik, developed by Sukhoi and Russian Aircraft Corporation MiG, is a key component of Russia's sixth-generation aircraft project. Incorporating technologies from the Su-57 fighter jet, it is designed for both independent operation and as a "wingman" for manned aircraft.

This incident, if confirmed as a friendly fire incident, marks the first confirmed loss of an S-70 Okhotnik and could potentially delay the deployment timeline for this next-generation UCAV.
 
The s-70 and su-57 were in clear ukraine controlled region, not in the Russian airspace.

Its a confirmed fact,there needs to be no debate on it.

Dosent mean they are undetectable, just means that there may be limited radars in that region.
As I said, boss, there were reports which stated a mid-range AAM was used, which led me to hypothesise the Su-57 was in Russian airspace with the drone being in Ukrainian airspace. Someone pointed out a video to me, which disproved my hypothesis, and showed that both aircraft were in Ukrainian airspace. I will readily admit I am wrong when I am.

That said, as I also alluded back then, a lot of thinking and questions will be raised about just why the drone and aircraft weren't detected earlier, assuming radar coverage of that particular area is dense enough.
 
Yes, u can study the radar absorbent material, the surface contour and radar absorbent texture and paints to fine tune ur own radar system and sigint system. Russians invented stealth tech anyway .
Russia developed their own stealth technology, but the folks to invent it were the Americans.
 
Nevatim was hit by a number of missiles, but the effect they would have had would be limited. Nevatim has hardened bunkers and hangars, so a few holes in the apron or the runway isn't going to interrupt operations much.

As for the costs of interception, I agree. It is a very expensive proposition. However, Israel would need a dozen or two critical hits to be crippled. A dozen normal hits aren't going to do too much harm. Oh, and a minor addendum: The USD 30 million cost for the SM-3 is the export cost. The cost for US operators is around 16 million USD.
I still feel Israel is being too aggressive atm.I am well wisher and what I see is beyond comfort.They need to steer away from Iran.

Another issue now is if they hit petroleum production of Iran ,there is a risk of Iran blocking hormuz and stop the shipping driving the oil price up.Benefits no one really.Better they do some token airstrikes on Iran and just focus on lebanon and gaza.

On the cost of sm-3....even 16 million is no loose change.

The politics is evolving ,democrats in the usa no longer blindly favour israel now and with increasing votebank politics of muslims in the usa ,there is a real danger that in 15-20 years down the line usa support for Israel gets very thin.

Long run,I have my reservations on the survival of Israel if some peace effort is not tried.
 
Russia developed their own stealth technology, but the folks to invent it were the Americans.
Pyotr Ufimtsev in 1960s presented first paper on rcs reduction by using diamond shaped surfaces. US applied it in aircraft f117
 

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