Did India Overpaid for Mirage 2000 Upgrade? Value and Capabilities Provoke Debate

[Pink Panther]

Meteor is not available with any foreign fighter/radar. And F16 lost to Rafale in MMRCA. Tejas mk2 isn’t coming in this decade or the next.

US is integrating Metror as an interim in its fighter jets until AIM-260 JATM becomes production ready, Typhon and Gripen carry Meteor, Meteor is not exclusive French product.

 

[Akshat]

US is integrating Metror as an interim in its fighter jets until AIM-260 JATM becomes production ready, Typhon and Gripen carry Meteor, Meteor is not exclusive French product.

Nope. Meteor is only being integrated on certain F35, in which most EU nations are a partner. So it’s not a foreign plane.

 

[Akshat]

with IAF.

You must be dreaming then. They haven’t received even one.

 

[Pink Panther]

You must be dreaming then. They haven’t received even one.

They supplied 6 trainers recently.

 

[Pink Panther]

Nope. Meteor is only being integrated on certain F35, in which most EU nations are a partner. So it’s not a foreign plane.

which means it could be integrated upon user request on any US plane including Indian jets with Indian Radar, which implies these radars and source code be altered to use Meteor or any other foreign missiles of NATO nations and friendly Countries if you get permission from MBDA, because everything NATO countries make are compatible with each other

 

[Akshat]

which means it could be integrated upon user request on any US plane including Indian jets with Indian Radar, which implies these radars and source code be altered to use Meteor or any other foreign missiles of NATO nations and friendly Countries if you get permission from MBDA, because everything NATO countries make are compatible with each other

Nope. It’s not compatibility. They don’t install it on any third country plane. So even if installed on US planes, they can’t be sold to India. It can be integrated on US planes for US and Indian planes for India. But F15 sold to India can’t have it.

 

[Akshat]

They supplied 6 trainers recently.

Trainers are Mk1 FOC standard.

 

[AK S]

Meteor is not available with any foreign fighter/radar. And F16 lost to Rafale in MMRCA. Tejas mk2 isn’t coming in this decade or the next.

Tejas Mk2 will fly before MRFA RFP, assuming if it ever comes.

 

[Pink Panther]

Trainers are Mk1 FOC standard.

Something is better than nothing.

It seems IAF had asked for some enhancements and once they are implemented and tested MK1A would be out, they are slmost near HAL’s entrance.

 

[Anurag]

Meteor is not available with any foreign fighter/radar. And F16 lost to Rafale in MMRCA. Tejas mk2 isn’t coming in this decade or the next.

Lies
Kf-21 test fired meteor...

Can't say anything particular but upgrade package of Mirage was way too costly!! But if IAF is happy with the upgrades then it's all good!!

 

[AK S]

Where are the already ordered mk1a? 😂😂

On the way. Jealous Frenchie.

IAF took more time to place the order than HAL took for the first-flight.And this I’m counting it from the day of the RFP response by HAL.If we start counting from the day of the induction of Mk1, it would be good 6 years. Had IAF put in those $2.5B in Tejas instead, we could have had 5 squadrons of them by now.All that was needed was to move to 16 LCA hangars instead of 5. The story would have so different. Lost opportunity.

BTW, Dassault took good 5 years to deliver the first Rafale with all India Specific Enhancements.

 

[Pink Panther]

Nope. It’s not compatibility. They don’t install it on any third country plane. So even if installed on US planes, they can’t be sold to India. It can be integrated on US planes for US and Indian planes for India. But F15 sold to India can’t have it.

We have 36 jets that we bought for $10Bln to fire Meteor, we have atleast 100’s of those missiles, that is plenty, if we need more we will have Tejas MK1A once we start fitting UTTAM radar to fire Meteor, or we could just send back all the Meteor to France and instead use Astra MK1,2 or and buy R37M from Russia that has even further range and use them instead until Astra MK3 is inducted, we have a variety of options, we don’t depend on Meteor and live our lives or rather loose our lives for it, and for this reason we don’t need to buy a $300Mln jet, US jets will soon have AIM-260 JATM with more range, so they don’t bother about Meteor either, nether Russian jets or Chinese jets.

 

[Man-ju]

Kindly note that this was same time when former Indian Air Chief Marshall was named in Augusta Westland Scam. Maybe this too had some scam in the name of upgrades.

 

[Ajath Shri]

US is integrating Metror as an interim in its fighter jets until AIM-260 JATM becomes production ready, Typhon and Gripen carry Meteor, Meteor is not exclusive French product.

It's METEOR missile.

 

[Pink Panther]

Lies
Kf-21 test fired meteor...

Can't say anything particular but upgrade package of Mirage was way too costly!! But if IAF is happy with the upgrades then it's all good!!

Yep that’s what I was saying, Gripen and Typhoon use Meteor as a staple missile for long range A2A engagement and AIM-120 AMRAAM for medium range and AI-132 ASRAAM for short range A2A engagement.

 

[Sic Dalalard]

Nope. Meteor is only being integrated on certain F35, in which most EU nations are a partner. So it’s not a foreign plane.

Full of lies as usual, Gripen and Typhoon are not foreign planes, Meteor is not exclusive French product and neither Scalp.

 

[Akshat]

Full of lies as usual, Gripen and Typhoon are not foreign planes, Meteor is not exclusive French product and neither Scalp.

Did I say French? Meteor is EU product and is only available for EU products or products which are indigenous to the customer nation (not done yet).